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Post by hoyaboy1 on Apr 4, 2007 15:24:32 GMT -5
Either way, Cambridge's initial statement - that transfers and illness contributed to Summers becoming the starter - was not accurate. So your contention is that it had absolutely nothing to do with it. I disagree. This isn't an opinion question - since Egerson hadn't left yet, his transfer had nothing to do with Summers moving into the starting lineup. The other half of your statement (about Crawford) isn't factually wrong, but there is little reason to think he had anything to do with DaJuan's spot in the lineup. Sapp had hurt his ankle earlier, and was widely expected to take the spot anyway. People also forget that Crawford played significant minutes for 7 games after returning, then lost his spot in the rotation. It wasn't as if he never got playing time after the illness. It was meant to show what the general consensus was at the time. By looking back at how people reacted to the news, we can better assess what the perceived impact was. This is a much more accurate impression than any personal memory that is filtered through the lens of hindsight and experience. I do not suggest that they are 100% accurate or that they were predictive of what happened; I merely wanted to show that at the time of Egerson's departure his role on the team and that of Summers were perceived very differently than you portrayed. As those sentiments were contemporary with the time period you are speculating about, they are incredibly useful. It's called a primary source. Historians and other academics tend to use them to get first hand accounts of the contemporary reactions to historic events. I hope that the academic standards of Georgetown haven't slipped so much as to neglect teaching proper research skills. Uhh . . .weird, weird post. The discussion was about how Summers became the starter. What people thought of Egerson leaving is totally irrelevant. Nice rant and attempted insults, but you were laughably off the mark. I "portrayed" Summers as the starter at the time Egerson left; nothing more. Unless you wanted to dispute that he was in the starting lineup, you wasted a lot of time and typing.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Apr 4, 2007 13:35:35 GMT -5
I edited my post after I finished to also respond to Yb saying that Egerson started up until he left, which is why it got confusing.
Anyway, again, Summers took over the starting job well before Marc left. Sapp took Crawford's spot. Would Summers had played less without Egerson's transfer? Sure. But there is no reason to think he would have lost his starting job. DaJuan started because JTIII either thought he was better at that point in the season, or because he thought starting would help his development. Either way, Cambridge's initial statement - that transfers and illness contributed to Summers becoming the starter - was not accurate.
I honestly have no idea what the point of posting what people thought about Egerson's transfer has to do with this thread.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Apr 4, 2007 10:37:04 GMT -5
I think it's clear that Summers is an excellent player. It's also clear Summers was not the starting SF at the start of the season. He became a starter via a confluence of improvement, injuries & transfers. As for the 1.5 years. That's what JTIII has said over and over. If you want to call our Final Four coach a liar, be my guest. Transfers obviously had nothing to do with Summers starting, since he moved into the lineup well before that - your memory is failing you, YB. It seems pretty clear that neither did injuries, since Sapp replaced Crawford. As for the 1.5 years, my understanding is that was starting from scratch. I don't believe it takes that long with 80% of the team already knows the offense. GIGA - I agree that no freshman will be starting next year, at least not early in the season. Just refuting the point that Summers only took the job because of injuries and/or transfers.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Apr 4, 2007 10:13:03 GMT -5
Good to see that you are sticking to the myth that players need 1.5 years to learn the system, YB. Also glad to know that despite the lack of evidence,you still hold that Summers became a starter due to injuries.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Apr 4, 2007 10:01:17 GMT -5
Gotta agree with Madge - I think Reynolds ended up a bit overrated - but the idea that a score-first freshman screws you is pretty absurd - Nova didn't have much talent, and a Reynolds-like player in our offense surrounded by our talent would be much more efficient.
Two more points for GIGA - I think it is a bit risky to assume that Macklin will have a viable faceup jumper next year, since right now he has no shot at all. Also, while Freeman's handle isn't as good as our points', he did regularly play PG for DeMatha and has a good handle for a 2. He wouldn't worry me at all teaming with Sapp/Wallace/Rivers against a press.
Assuming Jeff leaves:
Wallace Sapp Summers Ewing Roy
Four of those are locks, while there could be a surprise in Ewing's spot.
Off the bench (in order of minutes):
Freeman Macklin Rivers Wright
I don't think Crawford will get consistent minutes. Rivers/Wright is tough to predict too, since each is far stronger on one side of the ball than the other.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Apr 1, 2007 10:19:02 GMT -5
We could replace Jeff more easily than we can replace Roy's defense, rebounding, and post offense.
Obviously, however, I hope both stay.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Mar 30, 2007 10:58:41 GMT -5
It's not? In 2006 the football team had a 97% overall graduation rate, so obviously last year's class did something right. Is every member of the football team valedictorian of their class? No; but neither is the rest of Georgetown's student body. Umm, yea, I'm sure they are qualified enough to graduate. But they aren't as qualified on the whole as non-athletes. I didn't think this was groundbreaking.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Mar 30, 2007 10:44:39 GMT -5
Wait - are you trying to say that the football team on the whole is equally as qualified academically as the rest of the Georgetown class?
Because that clearly isn't true - and I have no problem with it.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Mar 28, 2007 0:15:28 GMT -5
Our power grows.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Mar 28, 2007 0:34:53 GMT -5
how does this work? I've never used a torrent before. I downloaded bittorrent but the file won't start downloading. Do I need a seed or something? What does that mean? When you click it, choose open, not save as.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Mar 27, 2007 23:56:18 GMT -5
I was also appalled when I read that. I could never understand the kids who claimed they couldn't spare a few hours to watch the game.
I easily wasted 70+ hours a week doing absolutely nothing in college. What the hell is wrong with these people?
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Mar 24, 2007 10:10:51 GMT -5
please. he pivoted on one foot, then spun to pivot on the other before he jumped to shoot. are you guys that blinded by loyalty that you can't even see the obvious? i saw it right when it happened. it was an nba move. just accept the fact that, for once, we got a break...and we deserved it. He shot before the pivot foot came back down. If there was a travel, it was when his foot came up off the ground earlier.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Mar 24, 2007 9:51:17 GMT -5
Could one of you that gets it post it online?
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Argh!
Mar 23, 2007 8:54:36 GMT -5
Post by hoyaboy1 on Mar 23, 2007 8:54:36 GMT -5
Here is the problem with having all sports or even all NCAA hoops on one page- the total lack of discipline/discretion on the parts of some posters who have obsessions with Dook/UMCP/Syracuse/BC/Marquette/you name it and feel the need to post a new thread every time that team loses or has something negative happen. That stuff totally junks up the board and does nothing more than generate one liners, and it happens all the time. Then move/delete those threads (although I personally could not crae less about the few times a week that might happen). Tons of message boards all over the interet allow more varied talk than we do here, and despite having more (and dumber) posters, it works out OK. I think we could handle it.
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Argh!
Mar 22, 2007 15:33:48 GMT -5
Post by hoyaboy1 on Mar 22, 2007 15:33:48 GMT -5
Totally agreed. I assume most people come straight to this board, and will therefore miss discussion of topics moved elsewhere. A thread on Pro and College Sports simply isn't going to get the same traffic.
Some boards have so many users and threads that it requires strict divisions - this isn't one of them. It isn't as if we'd have day old threads on the 5th page if we allowed a little general college hoops talk.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Mar 22, 2007 9:19:59 GMT -5
Very good article - thanks for posting it.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Mar 22, 2007 7:35:59 GMT -5
Whoever replaces Broadus will probably be a recruiting specialist.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Mar 21, 2007 21:20:02 GMT -5
Good luck.
I had hoped he'd wait around for a bigger name, but who knows what the money situation was.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Mar 21, 2007 18:18:15 GMT -5
Weird, since they almost got into a fight in 2004 Kenner, as mentioned - Haywood actually faked throwing a punch and the game had to be delayed.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Mar 21, 2007 9:46:30 GMT -5
Lowers are 66 too - I looked at a pic on ebay. I have no clue how they are being assigned, though - probably based on the time you called.
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