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Post by reformation on Apr 22, 2010 18:40:04 GMT -5
First leg killed us--anchor also could have been faster. Also in the 400 I suspect Abigail Johnson is not yet back to peak form If we added Tomlin/Infeld back we would have gotten 2nd or third. Good 800 run by Rachel Scheider.
We should be able to be in the top 3 again next year.
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Post by reformation on Apr 21, 2010 20:57:56 GMT -5
DeGioia + new AD need help in getting the best for Gtwn in this realignment. They should seek active help from somebody like Tagliabue to be proactive and intelligent re exploring the full range of possibilities in advance. Others with ties to other universities/tv networks should be utilized as well. --I really hope this doesn't become another disaster like acquiring the Mount Vernon property.[/quote]
Glad that the powers that be are listening!
Nothing is inevitable if we are proactive, though this is not an easy situation for anyone including Tagliabue to manage.
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Post by reformation on Apr 21, 2010 13:20:23 GMT -5
Most importantly, JTIII said he would never play Princeton. That might be a problem with and Ivy League schedule. Joining the Ivy would be basically be trading off the bball team in its current form for the good of the rest of the univ--its certainly a long shot (not impossible), but so are a lot of things. Having a DC outpost for the Ivies has some attraction for them--like everything else it would depend on what the specifics are at the time. I don't think anyone cares that the individual schools in the proposed conference are Catholic, its that they are relatively weak institutions generally with weak overall athletic programs. Our affiliation with these programs doesn't do a lot for our perception of ourselves as a major natl university. Given that the default option(Catholic conf) is a relatively poor one for Gtwn we really need to be proactive to try to get something better--Both the ACC/Ivy + whatever else we could try to put together. It seems like we can do better than just sit back and be dictated to by others.
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Post by reformation on Apr 20, 2010 18:26:51 GMT -5
Almost a miracle win--congrats to the team--agree, its kind of like S. Florida winning the Bball title--huge upset!
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Post by reformation on Apr 20, 2010 17:46:32 GMT -5
GU to Ivy makes no sense. Harvard and Cornell might be decent this year, but both are historically terrible. Having no scholarships wouldn't exactly do wonders for our NCAA chances... Would make sense for pretty much all sports except bball--which is obviousl;y the most impt one--that's one of the things that makes the realignment difficult--kind of the flipside of the catholic conf which is very bad for probably all sports except basketball.
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Post by reformation on Apr 20, 2010 13:41:18 GMT -5
ACC would be our best option(if its really an option). They'd probably want us to upgrade some of our non rev sports like tennis, golf, womens rowing--but it would make the most sense for us for all sports ex football + plenty of natural rivalries that people care about-Duke, UVA, MD, UNC, BC--ACC geography + acdemics are a plus. Our top tier academics + excellence at a few sports would hopefully be attractive to them + a few sports, Bball, Track, Lax
I guess we could revisit the Ivy(another long shot), ex basketball. A DC outpost for IVY events would have some interest to them.
The catholic/quasi catholic league would be a definite downgrade for most sports including basketball--I'm sure its the easiest thing to do, but its unclear (maybe we do/maybe we don't)that we stay consistently nationally competitive with that setup. I'd bet that it also increases the chance of losing JT3 at some point. Also not sure how the program economics work under this setup.
DeGioia + new AD need help in getting the best for Gtwn in this realignment. They should seek active help from somebody like Tagliabue to be proactive and intelligent re exploring the full range of possibilities in advance. Others with ties to other universities/tv networks should be utilized as well. --I really hope this doesn't become another disaster like acquiring the Mount Vernon property.
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Post by reformation on Apr 18, 2010 10:41:05 GMT -5
I would imagine that a new AD coming in would want to review all sports. Though its hard to imagine there will be any accountability/momentum for change regarding negative trends in a sport like lax-
I guess if we're still getting the top recruits(others will have to jump in regarding recruiting quality trends) then one might look at the recent disappointing performance as cyclical. However; if our recruiting is beginning to slip it would seem that something would need to be done to stem the decline.
I don't really hold the AD fully responsible for instituting major change in the way things are approached, that has to come from DeGioia/Porterfield etc. They do not seem to want to approach non basketball athletics in much of a strategic way, which is unfortunate and limits to some degree the scope for action on the AD's part.
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Post by reformation on Apr 17, 2010 19:03:24 GMT -5
Does this loss pretty much knock the men out of the NCAA tournament?
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Post by reformation on Apr 14, 2010 21:49:06 GMT -5
Maybe he (DeGioia)should consider cutting a few sports and allocating the resources so that we can have more signature programs-just saying that he is not into cutting sports has been tantamount to supporting many mediocre efforts which really makes no sense--I really don't think we will(or should) be successful in raising a lot of money for programs that have no goals to operate on an elite level "Signature programs" is an oxymoron among schools which cut sports, because the money never, ever goes back into athletics. St. John's cut six sports in 2002, what are they better at today? This argument is like those who would argue that funding the Graduate School is preventing undergraduate programs from thriving. It's counterintuitive and something Georgetown is wise not to get involved in. Not really--Creating signature programs athletically and academically is a big part of what defines a top university-- Just look at how a school like Northwestern targets certain sports--that a few years ago did not exist and now are at the top of their sport like its women's lax(i think 3 NCAA titles in a row) or tennis. Northwestern does not have a track team(xc only)--it made a conscious decision not to compete where it did not feel it currently had the resources to be at an elite level--I'm sure that they could change their mind if their resource situation changes. Well run Universities take a cost benefit(including academic costs) to funding various sports--I guess merely having 29 sports could be a goal in itself(if the athletes were just ordinary students), but most are recruited and get considerable admissions help to get in-so there is a cost to us in fielding a team even if the financial costs are low If you assume that the resources for the ath dept are fixed then squandering money on programs that have no chance to be competitive definitely draws resources away from programs where more resources would make them competitive. Fundraising for athletics is highly correlated to the program's success or goals at least--hypothetically if we took baseball 6 schollies and gave them to golf--the golf team would be a lot better--same would be true in reverse--i don't think the existence or lack thereof of a golf or baseball team would have much of an impact on the other sport. Btw, some(not all) of Gtwn's marginal grad programs are a waste of resources too-if you allocated money wasted on the marginal programs to undergrad program it would be better too.
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Post by reformation on Apr 14, 2010 20:49:43 GMT -5
The job of an athletic director is not an easy one anywhere and especially not at Georgetown. Reed needs our support because there is no margin for error. Issue One: Facilities. Georgetown needs $100 million in facilities upgrades now...not 2015, not 2020, now. None of CSU's somewhat limited facilities were built under Reed's watch, and his budget was only 235th in Division I. He needs to be able to walk into offices and secure seven and eight figure gifts. When? Now. Issue Two: Revenues. Georgetown is fielding 29 sports and only one returns significant income. Women's basketball has shown no revenue trail, and unless you build the MSF and actually start to win some games, football hasn't either. Both are part of the future, however, because there must be a broader revenue stream that allows Georgetown to meet its objectives and athletic obligations--a broad based athletic program is vital to Georgetown and DeGioia is clear in as saying he is not in the business of cutting sports.--- Maybe he (DeGioia)should consider cutting a few sports and allocating the resources so that we can have more signature programs-just saying that he is not into cutting sports has been tantamount to supporting many mediocre efforts which really makes no sense--I really don't think we will(or should) be successful in raising a lot of money for programs that have no goals to operate on an elite level Re: the new AD hopefully he is good and certainly deserves our support and a chance to do well.
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Post by reformation on Apr 11, 2010 20:08:16 GMT -5
Great runs by the women + sprinters: Schneider/O'Grodnick/Whalen + Maggie Infeld(ex hoya) Ulm/Perron/Mitchell
Men's middle distance squad had a small contingent who ran some fairly pedestrian times--they have really struggled this yr
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Post by reformation on Apr 4, 2010 8:28:48 GMT -5
Good 1500 by frosh Dylan Sorensen-equivalent to 4:04-4:05 mile--nice first outing. Springer's first 1500 in 3:51 more or less a 4:08 mile is slower than his hs times which were near 4 flat, lets hope he is recovering from his injury and will improve rapidly. also good first outing by bean and mason in the 1500, though both will have to get faster to be nationally competitive in the spring. Good runs by Toby Ulm in the 400h and Christine whalen in the 800.
Still no sign of Emily Infeld, Renee Tomlin, or Andrew Bumbalough. I guess we'll know if they are redshirting or not based on whther they run next week
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Post by reformation on Mar 28, 2010 18:18:30 GMT -5
Skinner is a class guy. It seems only right that he would want to leave those hypocrites at Benedictarnold College FWIW, one of the BC hierarchy told me a few months back that Skinner was the laziest guy at BC---maybe he's a great bench coach and has a very good staff, I'm not sure how hard he'll push with a LTerm guaranteed contract--he is coasting now at BC off his early real success.
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Post by reformation on Mar 28, 2010 10:10:31 GMT -5
What's are the chances of the men/women making the NCAA's this yr?
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Post by reformation on Mar 27, 2010 7:19:23 GMT -5
Decent runs for Mason + Sorensen in the steeple 8:5x/9:08. Very nice run for natasha labeaud 33;xx in the 10k--might be a pr. 5k runs were ok for Dennin 13:59, though he ran faster indoors , so I bet he would have expected to go faster. Roberts and Taye ran in the 14:30's which is not competitive at an elite level --not sure what is going on with them as I suspect that they are both injured as both have regressed significantly over the past yr--too bad as they were big recruits that showed promise early in their careers, but I guess have been done in by injury. Hopefully the same is not true for Bumbalough as he is a no show at both raleigh and Stanford.
Also Krisch had a decent 10k just dipping under 29--not sure whether that is fast enough to make the NCAA meet though
Overall a mixed result except for the men + good result for the lone woman at the meet.
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Post by reformation on Mar 17, 2010 16:48:40 GMT -5
New women's recruits Cox and DaSilva are booth 400/800 runners with very good 400 speed. Like the other recruit Emily Menges they all have great 400 speed/however they have run their fastest 800 times as sophomores/juniors. Hopefully their speed will translate at the college level in the 800. Seems like the women have recruited well to replace Tomlin/Whalen, the graduating 800 runners and maybe the graduating 400 runners too.
The men have one elite 800-1500 recruit Ledder and another distance recruit Darrah--hopefully they will get additional men to replace their many graduating seniors like Bumbalough. Without some additional high elite mens mid distance recruits the squad will be pretty thin at the elite mid distance level despite last years big men's distance recruiting class
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Post by reformation on Mar 14, 2010 19:23:01 GMT -5
At the High school indoor natl champs one of our women's recruits Joanna Stevens ran a blazing 10:12 in the 2mi(somewhere around 10-12th all time), as well a 4:49 for the mile placing 4th in both events. She also achored the 4 X mi relay for her school finishing second in the nation. Outstanding all around perf by Joanna Stevens. I thought that she was a pure distance runner but is also displaying serious mid distance talent as well.
Our other recruits did not fare as well in the 800(Ledder natl leader going into the race finished a disappointing 6th and Becca Deloache finished 22nd--both with much slower times than they had previously ran)
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Post by reformation on Mar 12, 2010 22:39:05 GMT -5
Huge run by women in DMR coming in 3rd behind Tennesse and Oregon--They were competitive for the NCAA win, but got outkicked by a bit on the final lap.--Congrats to Tomlin, Johnson, Schneider, and Emily Infeld who all ran strong relay legs!
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Post by reformation on Mar 10, 2010 20:13:28 GMT -5
Great showing by the women-The women have also recruited very well this year to improve the team's talent and depth
-Not having Bumby killed the men from a national competitive standpoint for the indoor season--(this was probably their weakest showing in the mid distances in recent memory)They have one high elite 800m recruit this yr, but its unclear what to think of their overall prospects except for their elite 400 + 110 hurdlers going forward. Bumby's return should help this yrs outdoor prospects, but he graduates in May.
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Post by reformation on Mar 10, 2010 14:51:13 GMT -5
saw we just signed another women's 400/800 recruit--Becca Deloache out of North Carolina. She ran 56/2:11 as a jr--seems to have some speed for a mid distance runner with a 25 sec pr at 200, so hopefully she has good upside in the 800. Similar to Emily Menges in terms of times--who is a dual soccer + track recruit.
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