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Post by JohnnyJones on Mar 6, 2017 8:52:01 GMT -5
Whatever happened to Big Dog?
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Post by JohnnyJones on Mar 5, 2017 21:25:41 GMT -5
I've never had this little interest in the BET ever. I usually take off days to watch it. I honestly couldn't care less at this point. This. Unfortunately I totally understand the sentiment - and while it is nothing compared to most prior years, I confess I am still a little excited to get to NY. Beginning with the '88-'89 season, I have been to every Gtown game in the BET for 27 of the last 29 years and the last 22 straight - missing only 1993 and 1994. A good Gtown run makes it one of my favorite weeks of the year. My wife likes to tell the story of the one February (with two kids under the age of 5 at home) when I ended an argument regarding the upcoming schedule announcing that the BET was "non-negotiable." A good run is of course not happening this year, but it is still an opportunity to get together - even if briefly - with old friends over beer in a pretty cool city.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Mar 5, 2017 19:29:41 GMT -5
The worst thing about the Hoyas performance this year is that they have soured me on college bball watching. Usually I'm glued to the tube this time of year trying to scope out how other teams might fare against the Hoyas. But now, watching other, really talented teams just depresses me. Was watching a little of the Purdue-Northwestern game. At the half they put up first half stats. Each team had 4 turnovers. Really? We will put up that many alone in the first 10 minutes. I mean watching these other teams offenses makes you jealous. None of the forced passes to the center, desperate looks for a cutter, guards who can't shoot passing up wide open threes. Depressing. Agree with this 100%. I have watched every Hoya game, but have otherwise watched almost no college basketball. It is too painful.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Mar 4, 2017 17:13:35 GMT -5
We play our rivals, who are the defending NCAA champs and ranked #2, for our last home game and can't draw a crowd. On top of it, we lose by 26 on national tv. Good times. Agree with all of that except for the crowd. In light of the fact that we had zero to play for, I thought the crowd was actually pretty good. A large Nova contingency obviously but from my vantage point they were never that loud or much of a factor. The game itself was an embarrassment, but in my opinion not the crowd.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Mar 4, 2017 17:09:45 GMT -5
I haven't really chimed in on this thread much if at all. I will say this, I understand the fans and this boards frustrations and those that want a change in leadership for the team. I myself think it's time for change as to me JT3 has lost all credibility after preaching major changes all last spring, summer, fall, even as late as early December and it's really the same system (minor tweaks) it's been for the last 4 years. Some will say the team has played faster. I counter that argument with the pick up in tempo is roster related. You remove DSR and add Pryor, Mulmore and Mosely and you should be faster. I thought with the additions of Mulmore, Mosely JT3 was really going in a different direction this season. It really didn't take a rocket scientist to tell that neither one of them really fit the Princeton offense at all. I also thought for sure changes were on the horizon with the additions of Waters and Walker. Can Waters play in a Princeton offense. Absolutely he can but you won't maximize his abilities and full game in that system. Some point to Trimble at Maryland as what a real PG can do for a program. I agree but you have to run a PG friendly system. Maryland with their ball screen offense (that they installed for Trimble) does. I actually believe that Mulmore and Mosely would be more effective in a different offense than they are in the Princeton. The rest of the conference has past JT3 in coaching. He's a 1 trick pony, a boxer with only 1 punch. Like Mike Tyson everyone knows the uppercut is coming and if you can defend that, he has no counter punch, JT3 is all Princeton and nothing else. At least nothing he really has faith in and willing to stick with. Teams defend the Princeton much differently now with the pack line styles of defenses than they did in 2007 when most teams played more a high deny the wings styles. The shrinking of the half court (pack line) has made the Princeton offense heavily reliant on the ability to make the 3 at high percentage to open up the rest of the offense and if your not making the 3 at high levels the Princeton offense begins to fall apart as teams will shrink the court even more. I feel that JT3 is in capable of making significant changes because all his basketball experiences and knowledge are Princeton based. He played at Princeton and Coached at Princeton. He's never coached anywhere else or in any other style. He knows nothing else and stubbornly doesn't really seem interested in getting out of his comfort zone and doing the hard work to learn something new and making major changes on both sides of the ball. Defensively this team isn't completely awful in forcing a missed shot, but struggles to secure rebounds. Govan needs to work a ton in his defensive awareness as he struggles and looks lost when you include him in the action. Govan is an okay defender when the ball is in front of him and he's near the rim but when he's out on the perimeter defending the pick and roll or the player coming off a screen he's completely lost. So I do think it's time for a change because I can't see JT3 making changes now as the base has lost its patience. If he had made massive changes this year and the team was struggling, I think the fan base would be more willing to endure as real change takes time to implement fully. With all that said, I do believe that chanting Fire JT3 and carrying signs that state fire JT3 is extremely disrespectful to JT2 and the students section and fans should never do that. Go ahead and boo that's fine but the other stuff is unnecessary and extremely disrespectful to the patriarch of this program. This program wouldn't be the National Power it once was if it wasn't for John Thompson Jr. and the signs and the chants are an extremely disrespectful to his legacy. It also doesn't send the right message to whoever the next coach will be if there is a change. The powers that be see what's going on. John Thompson Jr. and JT3 see what's going on. I believe they are both men of high character. The elder Thompson knew when it was time to step away. I'm sure his son will to, but there is no need to be down right ugly at the end. They both deserve better! I agree 100% that Govan has a tremendous amount of work to do on his defense, but this completely wacky switch on everything defense we have been running the past few weeks makes it really hard for the bigs who are always finding themselves in horrific matchups. The strangest part of all is that we rarely look for opportunities to quickly switch back. We just play it out until something really bad usually happens.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Mar 1, 2017 2:18:51 GMT -5
Yea - and DFW has intimate knowledge of that contract and Georgetown's finances. Just like his knowledge of the WAG shirt process. Thanks for the insight. Post again real soon. A strange response to someone who has been on this Board since 1999. How about answering my initial simple and direct question to back up your statement about Geirgetown's lack of options? You have been killing III publicly on this Board for a decade and now throw out as if its fact that there is nothing the University can do. How do you know the details?
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Post by JohnnyJones on Feb 28, 2017 21:00:11 GMT -5
III has recently hired DFW and Frazier to represent him and just shared his contract with them. Wow, touchy! We all know he has a contract. I don't know how long it runs, but others who know sone of these things have indicated it is for probably 2 more years. But at the same time, we are on the hook for it either way, so the only real additional expense would be the new coach's salary, which would presumably be a few hundred thousand. I admit I am touchy and I apologize for my attacks! Just super frustrated like everyone else- and I am on the road and I stayed up until 3am for that ending.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Feb 28, 2017 20:50:44 GMT -5
What are you talking about? This makes no sense. What are you talking about? Specifically. He's saying JT3 has a contract. Whether he's the coach or not he's getting paid. And Georgetown doesn't have the money to pay someone else. Yea - and DFW has intimate knowledge of that contract and Georgetown's finances. Just like his knowledge of the WAG shirt process.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Feb 28, 2017 20:48:59 GMT -5
The Adminstration doesn't have the money to affect the change you are suggesting. To suggest otherwise is not grounded in reality. DFW - not sure I follow - are you saying JTIII's buyout is the problem? III has recently hired DFW and Frazier to represent him and just shared his contract with them.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Feb 28, 2017 20:40:55 GMT -5
It is time for the Administration to decide what it wants from the program. The Adminstration doesn't have the money to affect the change you are suggesting. To suggest otherwise is not grounded in reality. What are you talking about? This makes no sense. What are you talking about? Specifically.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Feb 28, 2017 20:39:08 GMT -5
Two timeouts: one turnover, one shot off the backboard... It's time. The last possession was a mess. But again - the one before that was an excellent play. Peak was isolated down low, and was open, until Govan hesitated too long, then made a stupid late pass. That one was not on the coach. Should we start going through every possession and deciding which one was the coaches fault and which one the players? At some point someone has to be responsible for the horrible overall play and losses, no? No longer matters if it is "fair" or not. Enough already.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Feb 28, 2017 13:12:34 GMT -5
Like they say, if you're getting run out of town, grab a baton and call it a parade... I love the applicable cliches (really). Keep them coming.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Feb 26, 2017 15:40:09 GMT -5
Here is that game on YouTube for those of you who would like to see that game over and over again!! I actually watched this whole thing last night - thanks for the link. I had watched bits and pieces of this game over the years, but not sure I ever watched the whole thing start to finish. I arrived at GU in the fall of 1988 so this was before my time. One small thing that really stood out to me was how Bender and Packer barely reacted when Ewing picked up his 2nd foul so early in the game. They made a big deal of how the foul trouble had impacted GU later in the game, but at the time it happened they barely noted it. It is also notable how different the game is with a shot clock!
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Post by JohnnyJones on Feb 25, 2017 21:40:25 GMT -5
My expectations would roughly be: BE Conference – Be top four in conference 3 out of 4 years. BE Conference Tournament – Win one every 4 years. NCAA tournament – Get in tournament 3 out of 4 years. NCAA tournament – Make second weekend 3 out of 8 years. NCAA tournament – Make third weekend (AKA FF) 1 out of 8 years. I'll stand by it and this coach isn't even close to this. Maybe we don't quite achieve but we get somewhere in the ballpark. This is becoming an embarrassment. This administration would be better suited to run from this than continually to invest so heavily and lose in this embarrassing fashion. The Real Long Term Expectations as of Feb. 25, 2017 1. NBE Regular Season Championship once every 10 Years 2. BET Championship once every 10 Years 3. An NCAA Bid Once every 4 Years 4. A Sweet 16 Appearance once every 10 Years Let me know if I am missing something We have had 1 BET Championship in the last 27 years, so I think you are being a little optimistic with 1 every 10 years.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Feb 16, 2017 9:54:12 GMT -5
But overall their resume isn't nearly as good as ours. Their two wins over us only takes impact if all things are equal. they aren't. We clearly have the better overall resume The 2002 Hoyas beat BC at BC by exactly 112,000 points I believe. They had a worse conference record and a worse overall record. They got the last spot because their RPI was higher. That was 15 years ago. Head to head and conference are even more meaningless now. I was at that game at Conte. My recollection was something like 70-49. Braswell had 20+ if I recall. I distinctly remember on selection Sunday that year having no expectation we would make the field but then being really frustrated when BC got in,
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Post by JohnnyJones on Feb 12, 2017 19:17:55 GMT -5
One concern from the game that must be fixed if there is any kind of a run coming--64% FT shooting. This is baffling because in the pre-conference season the team was going great in FT shooting. Kaleb at 50% is what it is and not expecting any changes from him or Hayes. However, MD missing a front end of a 1/1 and Peak going 5/8 is not good. In Peak's case he is often shooting FTs after getting pounded and knocked to the floor. Perhaps he needs to settle a little longer before shooting (think Agau) and make certain he is using his legs. He always seems to be better on the second shot after an adjustment. Agau is going to be called for a 10 second violation on one of his free throws and it is going to be really painful. The Marquette bench was making a big deal about it when he was at the line in 2nd half. I timed it on tape late last night and it was way over 10 seconds, although based on the camera angle it was a little unclear exactly when he got the ball. Either way, it is too close. I like that he takes his time but like I said, it will be really painful if we lose a point on that.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Feb 11, 2017 12:38:26 GMT -5
Classic Jessie: great on offense, terrible on defense, 8 minutes glued to the bench. I don't mind the constant switching but we need to make an effort to quickly switch back to avoid the terrible mismatches that result in that horrible Govan foul
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Post by JohnnyJones on Feb 7, 2017 20:23:39 GMT -5
If there was ever a time to let Mourning play, this is it. My god.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Feb 4, 2017 20:03:55 GMT -5
I've stayed away from the board during the streak thinking I might jinx things by checking in. Terribly depressing game. And the atmosphere at Verizon Center has never been worse. It's actually turned into a pretty dismal experience even for wins, and even worse when we lose. No point assigning blame for this one. This group just doesn't have it, for whatever reason. It was all there for them today and they came out flat and never took advantage of numerous opportunities presented to them to win a game they had no business winning. And that's about it for the meaningful part of the season, I'm afraid, barring a string of miraculous wins. Not even mad about the state of things anymore. Just sad. Don't understand the comment about the Verizon Center crowd. There have been some really small crowds this year, but I thought today was a pretty good turnout and the crowd responded perfectly appropriately to the action on the court - including standing late in the game fir several defensive possessions. I came away with the opposite reaction than you. I was impressed with the turnout after only 3 wins in what has otherwise been a horrible year. What exactly are you looking for? The new reality is that unless/until we become really good again, other than Syracuse, Nova, MD etc, a nearly full lower two bowls is the best we can hope for and it isn't half bad. If your point is that it sucks that we get that turnout and then lose like that maybe discouraging non-season ticket holders to come back, then I agree.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Feb 3, 2017 13:52:21 GMT -5
The biggest reason for our recent success on the defensive boards has been our improved point guard play.hm Do you care to elaborate? Glide took over the hm handle.
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