hoyatables
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Post by hoyatables on Jun 5, 2007 15:23:08 GMT -5
Someone should force Jeff to sit in a room and listen to One Shining Moment over and over for a few hours. That should convince him that it's worth staying .
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Post by hoyastrong on Jun 5, 2007 15:48:35 GMT -5
Someone should force Jeff to sit in a room and listen to One Shining Moment over and over for a few hours. That should convince him that it's worth staying . Haha, agreed. Not sure he's really had his one shining moment yet
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Post by kchoya on Jun 5, 2007 16:39:41 GMT -5
Someone should force Jeff to sit in a room and listen to One Shining Moment over and over for a few hours. That should convince him that it's worth staying . Luther Vandross meets Clockwork Orange?
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Post by gojeffgoroyunder7 on Jun 5, 2007 22:45:30 GMT -5
Chicago, which picks No. 9, is first in to Washington, D.C., on Tuesday. In the coming weeks, lottery teams -- Boston (No. 5) and Milwaukee (No. 6) -- are also slated to go to D.C. There are also expected to be others. Sacramento wanted to work out Green but with other players, but the Hoyas aren't interested in multiple player workouts for Green.
Responding to what HoyaSox said, most mock drafts, at least several, have Jeff going to Sac at 10. Now, if they want to work him out with others, and he won't, that obviously helps our cause at getting him back.
Jeff should come back. The only player who should seriously threaten his win of BE POY is Roy--and as far as the draft goes those awards mean nothing. One can argue to strike while the iron is hot, and I would agree if Jeff was a guaranteed top 5 pick. But is striking while the iron is hot getting picked by the 76ers at 12? You have to believe, barring injury of course, Jeff gets drafted higher next year. Yes, there will still be the freshmen who go ahead of him. But now take away all of the Florida guys. Take away 2 guys who were a lock to go 1-2 BEFORE the season started. It seems like, worse case scenario, and I mean absolute worst case, Jeff gets picked # 12 next year.
We have the opportunity to be amazing next year--11 deep (give Wattad and Nikita time to develop as our 12, 13 scholarship guys). We can be seriously scary. Jeff knows this. Instead of going 12 to the 76ers, Jeff should play for the champion that he knows he is. THe money wont walk away. As the weeks progress it seems the pros of staying outweigh the cons. No, teams wont shut down jeff next year no matter what because Roy will just drop 30. Jeff, take us to the championship and finish what you started. I dont care if you are a 7 Footer. We need you.
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Post by HoyaLingus on Jun 5, 2007 23:41:39 GMT -5
hell of a first post.
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Post by ichirohoya on Jun 6, 2007 0:31:26 GMT -5
ditto.
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Post by strummer8526 on Jun 6, 2007 1:39:15 GMT -5
Completely right. For everyone who knocks Jeff for various things (he's a tweener, he lacks the "star" mentality, etc), I think he's an unbelievable talent who sells himself very short by accepting anything outside the top 7. Almost everything I've seen about NBA projections indicates that people see Jeff as like your solid bench guy--a 6th, 7th, 8th weapon. Someone you would love on your team, but...? Give him another year with JTIII, and Roy, and J. Wal, and I honestly think he could be projected as one of the absolute best players on whatever team he's drafted to (given a few years of growth in the league).
And as insane as it sounds when someone is waving money around, maybe the chance to finish a Georgetown education with close friends is important. You gotta love this kid, and while part of me is selfish, another part wants him to be the Hoya legend that he deserves to be after a championship.
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Post by MCIGuy on Jun 6, 2007 3:23:20 GMT -5
With an ever improving Hibbert, a great shooter in Wallace, a growing threat in Saop, a potential superstar-to-be in Summers, studs like Ewing and Macklin off the bench and big time scoring guards in Freeman and Wright there is no way Jeff, if the team plays at the same speed it has been the last few years, is going to average 20 points a game unless he shoots about 75% from the floor. Now, if III speeds the system up then he has a better shot, bot at this current speed I don't se it happening. Not unless Hibbert or Summers gets injured.
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Post by Boz on Jun 6, 2007 8:35:04 GMT -5
With an ever improving Hibbert, a great shooter in Wallace, a growing threat in Saop, a potential superstar-to-be in Summers, studs like Ewing and Macklin off the bench and big time scoring guards in Freeman and Wright there is no way Jeff, if the team plays at the same speed it has been the last few years, is going to average 20 points a game unless he shoots about 75% from the floor. Now, if III speeds the system up then he has a better shot, bot at this current speed I don't se it happening. Not unless Hibbert or Summers gets injured. Please go sacrifice a live chicken. Yeesh!
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hoyatables
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Post by hoyatables on Jun 6, 2007 10:29:40 GMT -5
Someone should force Jeff to sit in a room and listen to One Shining Moment over and over for a few hours. That should convince him that it's worth staying . Luther Vandross meets Clockwork Orange? I'm willing to do whatever it takes.
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Post by prhoya on Jun 6, 2007 14:35:03 GMT -5
Jeff's draft slot will improve next year. I don't see any incoming freshmen that will go as high as Durant or Oden.
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Post by HarbinHoya on Jun 6, 2007 14:57:04 GMT -5
The way I see it, unless the celtics tell Jeff they are going to take him with the 5th pick, he should come back cause then he will fall to 10 or below. There is no way he comes back, has a similarly successful season with lots of exposure and falls below ten next year. In fact I think both he and roy will be locks for top 5, next year will be a weaker draft class hands down.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Jun 6, 2007 15:07:39 GMT -5
We have the opportunity to be amazing next year--11 deep (give Wattad and Nikita time to develop as our 12, 13 scholarship guys). We can be seriously scary. Jeff knows this. Instead of going 12 to the 76ers, Jeff should play for the champion that he knows he is. THe money wont walk away. As the weeks progress it seems the pros of staying outweigh the cons. No, teams wont shut down jeff next year no matter what because Roy will just drop 30. Jeff, take us to the championship and finish what you started. I dont care if you are a 7 Footer. We need you. Agreed with others. Nice first post. But please clarify. Did you mean Roy will drop 30 points, or, based on his immensely long jumper against OSU, a 30-footer?
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Post by stafford72 on Jun 6, 2007 16:35:29 GMT -5
Scout.com has its ratings for the NBA draft out by Frank Burlison. He rates 85 players. Jeff is #5. Aaron Gray is #38. Curtis Sumpter is #80. Dead last is the "best athlete" D.J. Strawberry. As motivated as Jeff seems to be to make good impressions, I cannot imagine he will fail to impress in his workouts. The offers will be there, but his heart may still belong to the Hoyas.
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Post by gojeffgoroyunder7 on Jun 6, 2007 17:30:03 GMT -5
Thanks guys--
What I meant was that if teams try to focus on Jeff, they will get hammered by Roy inside, and killed on the outside by Jwall and two incoming freshmen who can shoot the rock. I guess, all in all, it sucks to think of what could have been. We can be good without Jeff, but to be honest, the sky is the limit with him. Like I said, it seems highly unlikely he will slip should he return. People point to guys like Noah slipping..well that's get a few things out in the open: 1) Noah sucks and cant play ball--he is just a freakish athlete 2) He was automatically knocked down because of oden and durant 3) Even after a mediocre year Mocks have him high
If Jeff could play for Boston--he should go. But a year next to Kyle freaking Korver and last place in the Eastern Conference cant be that tempting. Judging from the article in the Phil Inquirer (just google Jeff and then click on news) talking about how the 76ers are going to watch him and thye may have to trade up to get him seems like they want him. Jeff, you are better than 12. You are a champion.
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