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Post by GUHoya07 on Dec 1, 2004 18:31:56 GMT -5
The Illini looking good, up 39-24 with 5:40 left in the first half. This will be a major test for us!
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 1, 2004 18:41:54 GMT -5
How much talent does Illinois have? I was just looking at the box score and realized I could name seven players on their team -- and it isn't an ACC team constantly hyped up.
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Post by EasyEd on Dec 1, 2004 18:47:48 GMT -5
Illinois up 54-33 at half. Wow!
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Post by CAHoya07 on Dec 1, 2004 18:49:44 GMT -5
Unbelievable. 60% shooting, making them from everywhere, and Dee Brown is going to give our guards fits. He's one of the quickest in the game.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 1, 2004 18:55:18 GMT -5
Unbelievable. 60% shooting, making them from everywhere, and Dee Brown is going to give our guards fits. He's one of the quickest in the game. Yeah, it's going to have to be a big game for us offensively, because our guards are going to have their hands full with only a couple of freshman as post defense.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 1, 2004 18:58:53 GMT -5
According to DFW's hoyabasketball.com, the last time the Hoyas beat a #1 ranked AP team was February 27th, 1985 at the Garden. (2-15 overall).
Not sure the voters will make Illinois #1 if they win, but GU has a better record versus #2 anyway!
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 1, 2004 19:07:16 GMT -5
If Illinois blows out Wake, I predict Illinois will be #1 (assuming they don't stumble in any other games they play this week). That will hopefully result in excitement building in DC for our game with them, and produce a large crowd.
If memory serves, the last time we defeated a #1 team, we were the #2 team (GU v. St. John's, after St. John's had attained the #1 ranking by narrowly beating GU in their first meeting). I don't think this team is quite up to that team's level.
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Post by GUHoya07 on Dec 1, 2004 19:19:09 GMT -5
OMG!!! NOW 70-43 with 11:24 left !!! Illinois is laying down a real beating
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 1, 2004 19:28:12 GMT -5
We are soooooo dead on December 9th.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Dec 1, 2004 19:29:19 GMT -5
If we run the offense, we're not as dead as you might think, but we're still dead.
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Post by Jack on Dec 1, 2004 19:33:08 GMT -5
We have to play that game like we are Princeton- shorten the game. That is the only way to stay in the building with this team.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 1, 2004 19:34:44 GMT -5
We have to play that game like we are Princeton- shorten the game. That is the only way to stay in the building with this team. That's right. 35 seconds. Don't run. In other news, Penn State leads Rutgers by one at the RAC with 15 minutes left. Forget everything bad I said about them.
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 1, 2004 19:43:58 GMT -5
Darn. So Penn State will be competitive too?
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 1, 2004 19:46:14 GMT -5
Who knows in College Basketball? You know what they say -- on any Monday...
On the other hand, I really enjoy Rutgers losing (no, I don't know why), so there's a silver lining here...
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Post by GUHoya07 on Dec 1, 2004 20:01:23 GMT -5
We are probably in big trouble against Illinois, but I never accept defeat before a game is even played. While extremely unlikely, we always have a chance.
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Post by CAHoya07 on Dec 1, 2004 20:51:50 GMT -5
So we'll probably get blown out by Illinois, this is not anything new. I still think it'll be a good experience for our guys to play a top flight team early in the year and take some lessons from it. It can toughen us up. That being said, I expect a good effort and don't expect us to quit at all in this one.
Penn State beating Rutgers at the RAC was a definite surprise. We can't underestimate them at all. No letdowns, boys...
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Dec 1, 2004 21:00:15 GMT -5
So we'll probably get blown out by Illinois, this is not anything new. I still think it'll be a good experience for our guys to play a top flight team early in the year and take some lessons from it. It can toughen us up. That being said, I expect a good effort and don't expect us to quit at all in this one. Penn State beating Rutgers at the RAC was a definite surprise. We can't underestimate them at all. No letdowns, boys... I am glad that Penn State won. Now, we have less ability to underestimate them. I am also glad that they're competitive because it hurts us to play cupcakes early in the season.
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Post by GUHoya07 on Dec 1, 2004 21:17:20 GMT -5
So we'll probably get blown out by Illinois, this is not anything new. Come on CA, some of your comments recently, haha. This is not anything new? I don't think Georgetown has really established a tradition of getting blown out. Maybe you are just using your Davidson strategy again, say something and as a result end up with the opposite outcome ;D.
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Post by CAHoya07 on Dec 1, 2004 21:36:50 GMT -5
Come on CA, some of your comments recently, haha. This is not anything new? I don't think Georgetown has really established a tradition of getting blown out. Maybe you are just using your Davidson strategy again, say something and as a result end up with the opposite outcome ;D. (Actually what I meant by the "anything new" statement is that we figured we'd get blown out by Illinois as soon as we saw the game on the schedule. So in essence, figuring the Illini will really blow us out now on Dec 9 after their performance against Wake tonight is not a new notion.)
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Post by HoyaLawya on Dec 1, 2004 21:44:08 GMT -5
OK ... after thinking the Zags were awful because their youthful players got schooled by the Illini last Saturday, falling behind as much as 38 points before narrowing the final score to within 17, I now realize that they were mere cattle standing on the railroad tracks and got hit by a runaway freight train nicknamed the Champaign Express.
The Illini win over #1 Wake tonight proves that.
With Dee and Deron and Luther, the odds are nil that all three will hit a cold shooting night at the same time. Their bigs are serviceable, but not great. (OK ... fans of "Augie" can pile on for me making that comment ... but I'm talking Big Ten "great" not mere-mortal-any- other-conference "great".)
Frank Black can chime in to deliver Extreme Unction to all of us, but give it up all ye who would chant "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor" ..... it is most emphatically going to be over in this particular game.
There is just NO SOLUTION to the Illini.
Zone 'em and they simply shoot over your zone from a maddening NBA range.
Man to man won't work because they've got jet engines turbocharging their footgear.
After following the game tonight in which the Zags handily pasted UW (which was coming out of the Great Alaska as the overall winner, and is a ranked team this year) my only thought of "Hoya consolation" is that we WILL become a better team after our encounter with what is probably this season's best team in college basketball. JT III will sharpen his game plan as best he can, he'll learn a lot about what our players can do when up against it, and the players will come away fired up to improve.
The Orange Krush have a reputation for turning out alumni en masse wherever the team is traveling ... so just try to get the forces of Hoya fans out in enough numbers to squeeze the Illini fans out of the lower seats.
Prayer is good also.
And I don't have any great "dirt" on any of their players, who all seem to be model citizens, so strategies for getting into their heads are coming up with zip. Except that one of their players when he was a kid in Texas used to operate the roller coaster ride at Six Flags amusement park down there ......... so maybe catcalls of "Carney boy" will be of some assistance during the limited minutes that he is likely to play.
There is a sharp drop-off in talent once they start pulling players off the bench. And Weber, in order to save his premier talent from needless injury, might get liberal with substitutions by the second half.
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