C86
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Post by C86 on Mar 23, 2007 23:47:52 GMT -5
Oh well. At least he can write another valentine to Duke talking about its magnificent performance this season. Oh. . . wait. . . never mind.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Mar 23, 2007 23:53:21 GMT -5
Jeff definitely did not travel.
1) The rules have already been clearly explicated in this thread.
2) The fact that the BUM and Gottlieb are wining about this the loudest only indicates that people that want to see us lose are going to bitch about the call.
3) Not pictured in the blown up version of the play is Jeff getting MUGGED by two Vandy players right after he had gotten called on a HAND-CHECK with UNDER A MINUTE LEFT - by making calls like that the refs put themselves in a situation where they were going to be deciding the game either way - that's a shame - but if they were going to call anything on that play it would have been a shooting foul.
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WVHoyasfan
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Post by WVHoyasfan on Mar 23, 2007 23:53:41 GMT -5
Shoot guys I think he walked but maybe im wrong b/c now im even seeing a few west virginia fans saying that he DID NOT walk.
So that adds up to
Packer says it was'nt
Some Duke sayed he did'nt
Some WVU fans says he did'nt
im confused!!!
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Post by ][-][ 0 `/ /-\ 5 on Mar 24, 2007 0:02:01 GMT -5
Well, whether he did or not, it was an awesome play and #1 on sportscenter's top 10
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Post by fsohoya on Mar 24, 2007 0:17:09 GMT -5
I'm mad that I'm staying up so late thinking about this, but I've watched the replay at least 20 times now, and while in some of the blown-up replays it looks like Jeff MIGHT have walked, numerous bits of reality really make this a huge non-issue:
1. At normal speed, almost no ref is going to see Jeff walk, just like almost no one watching the game saw a walk. 2. If they are going to call a walk, they could just as easily have called several fouls on Vandy on the same play. 3. There were plenty of bad calls that went against us. This only gets attention because it was the game winner.
The fact of the matter is we won this game fair and square, and any objective viewer of the game in its totality - not of just a one-second, gigantic blow-up of Jeff's sneakers - will reach the same conclusion. And, by the way, HUGE props to Vandy's coach and players, who in all their comments have accepted the outcome of the game without complaining about being robbed or any other such garbage. They know how the game works - that it is played in real time, and that things get missed - and accept it for the nonetheless outstanding game that it is. Would that all the professional commentators were so reasonable and gracious.
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Filo
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Post by Filo on Mar 24, 2007 0:20:26 GMT -5
Yeah good points. Final point I want to make -- watching the final minutes, neither Nantz nor Packer even touched on the possibility of a walk. It wasn't even on the radar until the studio clowns tried to make a story out of it. Complete and utter nonsense.
I am done on this topic as well. Bring on the Heels!
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Post by ][-][ 0 `/ /-\ 5 on Mar 24, 2007 0:20:56 GMT -5
College gameday is disugusting. Gottdweeb is screaming about how Jeff traveled and it was a criminal action by the refs. He says its blatantly obvious and is referring to the "switch of pivot foot" which has been proven wrong. Majerus goes on to say no gtown player has had a # retired but if we win the tournament we should retire the refs' #s. My ears are bleeding after hearing all this whining from Gottdweeb and misinformation.
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sweetness
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Post by sweetness on Mar 24, 2007 0:21:22 GMT -5
Not sure whether Jeff walked or not; what I am sure of is to watch my credit cards around Doug Gotlieb.
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Post by DuddingtonHoya on Mar 24, 2007 0:24:43 GMT -5
Gottdweeb is horrendous. Who made the decision to put him on television?
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Post by fsohoya on Mar 24, 2007 0:27:47 GMT -5
Have we not known all year that College Gameday is staffed by blowhard fools? They are irrelevant. The fact of the matter is that all three refs had their eyes on Jeff and made no call, either travelling on him or fouls on Vandy. In the end, who should we go with, the refs in the game, or Doug and the Fat Man? I'll stick with the former.
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Post by DuddingtonHoya on Mar 24, 2007 0:32:58 GMT -5
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Post by cuvahoya on Mar 24, 2007 0:34:06 GMT -5
OK. I have watched it over & over again - he did not travel. And as has been mentioned earlier, why aren't they equally outraged that no foul was called. And what about the last 2 fouls on Green. They act as if Georgetown just stole some money from an old lady. . .
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Post by HoyaTejano on Mar 24, 2007 0:41:06 GMT -5
If there is anything that is going to re-ignite latent hatred of Hoya basketball, this non-controversy is probably the spark. Green got NFL bump-and-run coverage on that play and still converted.
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Post by HoyaTejano on Mar 24, 2007 0:42:07 GMT -5
Also, that was sure as heck a quick edit to Gottleib's bio.
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PopeJohn2
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Post by PopeJohn2 on Mar 24, 2007 0:47:55 GMT -5
its already being analyzed like the zapruder film. there was no travel and there was a second gunman on the grassy knoll.
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 24, 2007 0:50:40 GMT -5
Also, that was sure as heck a quick edit to Gottleib's bio. outstanding
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JPM32
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Post by JPM32 on Mar 24, 2007 0:59:51 GMT -5
Why is such a big deal being made of this call?
Let's just say Green traveled, which I don't think he did. That's 2 points. Vandy got 6-7 points from the line in the final 2 minutes on VERY questionable foul calls against the Hoyas....
The refs did not give this game to Georgetown. If anything, they made it a lot harder for us to win.
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Mar 24, 2007 1:00:03 GMT -5
I'm going to dust off an old chestnut here and quote lovable stand-up comedian Kevin Meany:
I don't caaaaaare... I don't caaaaaare... You say that he traveled, I don't caaaaaare...
Maybe CBS anal-ysts can also talk about how Vandy scored their last seven points of the game at the foul line...on crappy touch fouls. Or that the alley-oop play should have been offensive interference for hanging on the rim, which is the only reason the ball went in instead of bouncing out.
He did not travel. Superman does not travel. Superman wins.
I will now sign off by quoting one of my other favorite shows. As Groundskeeper Willy said in the "Evita" episode....
"...I'm so drunk I can barely see......"
Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana.
(blinded by alcohol, but no mis-spellings)
Go Hoyas!! COME ON!!!!
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momzer
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Post by momzer on Mar 24, 2007 1:05:54 GMT -5
Remember, this game is played at 60 MPH. With 2.5 seconds left, the refs let the players decide the game. If he makes, great, if he misses, they lose. Only Gottweeb won't let it go, since he has G-Town losing early in the tourney. He is such a hump. He is such a sorry excuse for an analyst. He should just go to a bar, use someone else's credit card and cheer for the other team. Why should we have to put up with his nonsense.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Mar 24, 2007 1:09:13 GMT -5
So what?! Vandy's coach will not complain after seeing that the refs were calling all those ticky tack fouls against us. I think their last ten points came from the FT line.
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