PopeJohn2
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Ultimate bailout is yet to come and unavoidable. Uncle Sam gonna pay your debt for you!
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Post by PopeJohn2 on Mar 8, 2007 16:02:54 GMT -5
My worst experience ever was being at the game last year. WOrst ever...even if the booze made me forget it even happened. you must not have been at the 1996 BET finals vs. UConn? ive forgotten about cuse last year but the Uconn one still gives me fits.
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hoyatables
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Post by hoyatables on Mar 8, 2007 16:04:25 GMT -5
On my way to do my part as well . . . go HOYAS!!!!!
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hoyaboy1
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Mar 8, 2007 16:07:51 GMT -5
I had hoped that JTIII learned from the Syracuse debacle that we don't have the type of team that can survive when we put the brakes on early - but it seemed like the decision to do that was made with a few minutes left in the first half.
We play slow enough that we don't need to change much with a lead.
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FOTP
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Post by FOTP on Mar 8, 2007 16:13:04 GMT -5
I was at the Tomb's for the 1996 UCONN game...I think the bar still has a dent in it from my actions after the game.
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Post by jonnystrongleg on Mar 8, 2007 16:13:16 GMT -5
SFHoya99, yeah playing if's is not necessary today. A 35-10 lead was almost reduced to a single possession game. It's not playing if's that's the problem, it's that you're playing them against us. We played awesome in the beginning and awful at then end. It's just as valid to ask what if we played well in the second half as well. This is a team that we've lost to and beat by 3. We just did it in a different way. Should we play better? Sure. But writing things like "Dude, if Scottie Reynolds had shot 100% from three, we'd have totally lost" have no point. If Jeff, Jessie, Pat and Rivers hadn't shot 0-11 from three (and that group includes 2 40% shooters) we'd have clocked them ever with the bad second half. If we'd had made our FTs it wouldn't have been that close. If, if, if... This is a bit of an overkill from the inocuous starting point about one in and out three with 45 seconds to go in a 6 point game, don't you think? And as for what's pointless to write here, I'll just say that "dude, completely misrepresenting what other people post for your own cryptic ends is pointless."
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Post by wildhoya on Mar 8, 2007 16:18:45 GMT -5
Villanova Bounced from Big East Tourney www.philly.com/mld/philly/16862104.htm"Eight years ago, Princeton stared at a 24-point deficit at the Palestra. Giddy with the thrashing of their rivals, Penn students chanted and ridiculed themselves into a frenzy. John Thompson III was a Princeton assistant for that game, a game that ended with Princeton claiming a shocking 50-49 victory If Thompson experienced flashbacks today, no one would have blamed him. ..."
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 8, 2007 16:28:12 GMT -5
My own cryptic ends? Yes, I'm trying to take over the world.
My post wasn't actually only in response to you. It was partially -- you made two "if" statements in regards to Scottie's three and "If" we hadn't played so great in the first half. Meanwhile, there are several other if's in other posts, such as "If they hadn't called that a charge..."
People are pretending as if it was luck that we played so well, and purely attributable to lack of ability when we don't. Guess what, if it is a bit lucky when we shoot 70%, it's a bit unlucky when we shoot 30%.
Phrase it another way: we aren't as good as we were in the first half and aren't as bad as we were in the second half, but either way, we're better than Villanova.
When we lose, and someone says "if", they are branded as a whiner. We missed lots of shots today, too, shooting 43%. Scottie Reynolds isn't the only one to miss a shot.
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tgo
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Post by tgo on Mar 8, 2007 16:31:43 GMT -5
Just back from the Garden, and I have several observations: 2) Most of the fans in attendance (and it was fairly full for a noon start) were anti-Georgetown 6) We need more fans to show up tomorrow worse is when we were so bad for a couple years some people started to cheer for us, that is much worse. we hopefully will never have the crowd on our side at the garden.
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Post by jonnystrongleg on Mar 8, 2007 16:33:09 GMT -5
SFHoya99, I completely agreed with you from the beginning. I just wasn't crazy about the "dude, if scottie reynolds shot 100%" comment. The first half was so great and the end game so poor that the win was not as satisfying as it should have been. But it will all be forgotten as soon we find who the next opponent is.
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HealyHoya
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Victory!!!
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Post by HealyHoya on Mar 8, 2007 16:34:59 GMT -5
Win and move on. Win and move on. Win and move on...
Let's not over-analyze the win -- III and the team don't have much time to analyze much of anything beyond, "Hey, who do we play tomorrow?"
We win. 'Nova loses. We're 2-1 against 'Nova. They're a tough team that we beat more often than not. That's it.
Bring on....well...it looks like ND.
Whatever.
Hoya. Saxa.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 8, 2007 16:35:40 GMT -5
SFHoya99, I completely agreed with you from the beginning. I just wasn't crazy about the "dude, if scottie reynolds shot 100%" comment. The first half was so great and the end game so poor that the win was not as satisfying as it should have been. But it will all be forgotten as soon we find who the next opponent is. Sorry about that line then. I'm just happy to have a win.
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FOTP
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Post by FOTP on Mar 8, 2007 16:37:30 GMT -5
Bring on ND...let's just focus on the next one.
The best part about all of this is I finally feel like we control everything. No team is going to beat us if we play well. No need for gimmacks to win.
We control our own destiny. We play our game like in the first half and look at what we can do.
Not many teams can claim if they bring their A game that not many others can touch them.
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FOTP
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Post by FOTP on Mar 8, 2007 16:39:01 GMT -5
Or cuse...looks like its not totally over yet...
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zxhoya
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Post by zxhoya on Mar 8, 2007 16:43:01 GMT -5
ND it is.
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Post by jonnystrongleg on Mar 8, 2007 16:43:28 GMT -5
SFHoya99, I completely agreed with you from the beginning. I just wasn't crazy about the "dude, if scottie reynolds shot 100%" comment. The first half was so great and the end game so poor that the win was not as satisfying as it should have been. But it will all be forgotten as soon we find who the next opponent is. Sorry about that line then. I'm just happy to have a win. Thanks, no sweat. I'm happy for the win too.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Mar 8, 2007 16:56:13 GMT -5
That sound you hear is thousands of cuse fans trying to sell their tickets.
I love the way this tournament is working out No UCONN No CUSE No Nova
check off three teams I hate - now we just have to hammer the Irish like we did in January and then get ready for Pitt/LVille/WV/Marquette
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Post by EWINGthegreat33 on Mar 8, 2007 16:57:32 GMT -5
Very good win today! 26-2 at once. I'm liking the old school Patrick Ewing baby-hook by Hibbert. GO HOYAS!
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Highsmith
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Post by Highsmith on Mar 8, 2007 18:10:24 GMT -5
I made a post of the top 5 things I wanted to see in this game in the pre-game post, so I wanted to check and see how they went.
1. Tough, effective defense on Reynolds- CHECK!! He got 11 points and shot poorly.
2. A fairly significant advantage on the boards- Well, we beat them there and the advantage was pretty significant for a good part of the game. Not too bad overall, but it could have been better.
3. In the neighborhood of 12 TOs or less- CHECK!! We had 9 TOs .....very solid against a tough Nova D and most of these were probably in the last few minutes. Not that that is a good thing, just that we did pretty well here for the majority of the game.
4. At least 4 starters in double digits- CHECK!! Hibbert, Green, Summers and Wallace all came in with 10+. Jessie had 8 and 4 others scored- a nice balance.
5. Jessie and DaJuan shooting no worse than a combined 45% total and 35% from 3- Not too good here. They shot a combined 33% overall and 25% from 3 (0% from Jessie). I still say that one of these guys really needs to get their shooting to return to where it was a month or so ago. We can win without that, but we are MUCH better when at least one of these guys is shooting well.
Overall, I'm thrilled with the win and the play in the 1st half. I am split on how to look at the 2nd half. Part of me completely agrees with RDF and part of me sees one team that just got a little complacent with a big lead and another team that just never gave up and is too good to let themselves get completely destroyed in a game like this. Either way, however, I am disappointed with a mere 5 point margin of victory. Even the 8 that it was without that last second three is disappointing. This game should have been at least in the 15 pt win range. Well, a win is a win and we've got one of our toughest opponents out of the way. Hopefully the guys will keep getting better on offense and especially Jessie and DaJuan will find their shots/shot selection again. Bring on the Irish!!!
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Post by 1984alloveragain on Mar 8, 2007 20:50:19 GMT -5
I think the close margin at the end was actually a good thing for us (yeah, I wanted a 15+ one to) because then the guys still have to look at that and realize they have to keep that edge they lost in the 2nd half. JEFF and ROY said in interviews they felt they lost their edge at halftime, just wanting the game to be over with, and now they know they have to guard against that as they move forward in the tournament(s). It's a good win because we proved we were by FAR the superior team in the first 15 minutes, yet they still have to go back and come and STAY ready against every opponent they face from here on in.
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Post by vamosalaplaya on Mar 8, 2007 21:45:16 GMT -5
Not sure if it has come up, but the Hoyas got a huge break with that blown over and back call in the second half - I had the good luck of stumbling into some amazing half court seats very close to the court and watched it happen up close - the Hoyas proceeded to hit a three on that possession which stopped a Villanova run.
Villanova missed some wide open, short shots in the first few minutes that were barely contested - then as the first half wore on, their shots got worse. I thought Villanova really played poorly out of the gate to give the Hoyas their legs.
Wright's Technical was awesome. He was screaming about everything - fouls not called, three seconds - the score was 20-2 I think at the time, and the T was almost like the ref saying, "Listen, your team is sucking, that doesn't give you the right to yell at me." Maybe Wright was trying to get his team fired up, didn't really work, Hoyas proceeded to lead 35-10 at one point.
I am not sure when the last time both Syracuse and UConn were out by the semifinals, but for those of you living in the tri-state area, I suspect there will be alot of tickets kicking free tomorrow. People aren't going to fly in from Lousville who aren't already here; but with Cuse and UConn out, not only do their tickets free up, but their myriad of alums in the NY area don't swarm in to get tickets either. There will be alot floating around.
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