Jack
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Post by Jack on Mar 8, 2007 15:02:58 GMT -5
McDonough will be insufferable tomorrow if Syracuse wins today. (not that he wasn't a prick today, but it pales in comparison to what he will be like tomorrow) I guarantee no less than 25 mentions of Saint Gerry. On the plus side, Jay Bilas might very well punch Sean in the face if he gets too bad. Don't they give it to Shulman/Elmore for the semis and finals, so that Bilas can get back to the studio?
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Post by RDF on Mar 8, 2007 15:03:00 GMT -5
McDonough will be insufferable tomorrow if Syracuse wins today. (not that he wasn't a prick today, but it pales in comparison to what he will be like tomorrow) I guarantee no less than 25 mentions of Saint Gerry. On the plus side, Jay Bilas might very well punch Sean in the face if he gets too bad. I believe we're done with McDonough/Raf/Bilas after today--think it's Schulman and Elmore rest of way for us--and THANK GOD! I can't stand when McDonough does a Hoya game.
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Post by OldHoyafan on Mar 8, 2007 15:12:01 GMT -5
i know brasky and others have made this point, but the reason we struggle against a tight press and at the end of games is because Wallace is just not the type of guard who can/will break a press with a dribble. Unless and until we have someone to do that, and maybe Wright is that guy, we will be forced to pass around presses and always have to make FTs. If you can break the press with an open dribble, you get Roy sitting under the basket for a dunk. This correctly sums up the reasons the Hoyas struggle with a good pressing team at the end. Wallace just does not have the handle or speed to break a press. Rivers and Sapp have the handle and speed but are just as likely to throw it away on the pass. The Hoyas stopped attacking around the 10 minute mark and started watching the clock. This is where your best player(Jeff) demands the team let him or Roy touch the ball down low. I have not watched the taped 1st half but I must asume from 1st half score that Jeff and Roy were more determined in getting post position than they were in 2nd half.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Mar 8, 2007 15:14:05 GMT -5
A bright spot from this game: Assists/TOs Us: 20/9 Them: 8/6
I realize most Assts came in the first half, but compared to how these numbers looked the last 2 times we played Nova, I'm pretty happy with this aspect of today's game.
[Edit: One not good stat: Jeff, Jessie, PE Jr, and Baby Doc went a combined 0-11 from 3. Ouch]
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Mar 8, 2007 15:14:50 GMT -5
I believe we're done with McDonough/Raf/Bilas after today--think it's Schulman and Elmore rest of way for us--and THANK GOD! I can't stand when McDonough does a Hoya game. [/quote] That is also the first GU win in front of the Big Monday trio, which is nice. Good to finally show something after all the praise Bilas and Raf have heaped on this team. McD is a Cuse homer, but he keeps good company, so he doesn't bother me nearly as much. I am also used to him as a Red Sox fan.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 8, 2007 15:19:10 GMT -5
McD is a Cuse homer, but he keeps good company, so he doesn't bother me nearly as much. I am also used to him as a Red Sox fan. Is that the same as taking allergy shots?
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Post by brooklynhoya on Mar 8, 2007 15:19:34 GMT -5
Just back from the Garden, and I have several observations: 1) The 'Cuse folks don't want to play us- they were rooting for 'Nova 2) Most of the fans in attendance (and it was fairly full for a noon start) were anti-Georgetown 3) We put on a clinic, offensively and defensively, in the 1st half- that's the type of play that easily puts a team into a Final Four 4) Our offense sputtered in the 2nd half, but our defense stayed tight and won the game for us, along with much better free throw shooting than last year's McNadebacle vs. 'Cuse 5) The officiating in the 2nd half was horrific and seemed to many of us in attendance to be overcompensating 'Nova for their huge deficit 6) We need more fans to show up tomorrow
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Post by GUJook97 on Mar 8, 2007 15:20:48 GMT -5
It was pretty amazing hearing Raff doing the 1984 and 1985 BE Championship. Unfortunately for him, he is too classy to make college basketball about himself (see Packer, McD, Vitale), so you dont hear about how long he has been around. He deserves a lot more credit than he gets for being with CBB for a long time.
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Post by TigerHoya on Mar 8, 2007 15:21:08 GMT -5
Just back from the Garden, and I have several observations: 1) The 'Cuse folks don't want to play us- they were rooting for 'Nova 2) Most of the fans in attendance (and it was fairly full for a noon start) were anti-Georgetown Music to my ears.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 8, 2007 15:23:15 GMT -5
6) We need more fans to show up tomorrow ...on my way to do my part...
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Post by YB on Mar 8, 2007 15:26:22 GMT -5
We can always buy tix off the ND, Nova, Pitt fans....
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Post by jonnystrongleg on Mar 8, 2007 15:27:05 GMT -5
The first 17 minutes of this game produced the best basketball this team is capable of playing. It is very doubtful that we will ever see that level of proficiency again. And that's not to say they won't be great later in these tourneys; just saying that nobody can expect any team on any level to play like that for such a long stretch.
The last 23 minutes of this game were so bad that 17 minutes of near perfect basketball were almost entirely wasted. If the Reynolds three goes in, it's a 3 point game with just less than a minute to go. I am not so sure what the outcome is if that happens.
If the Hoyas had played anything but their best over the first part of the game, they would have lost. The defensive intensity they brought to the first half was completely gone by the second half. The refs reacted to Wright's tech by calling everything on the Hoyas for about 10 minutes and then the desperate Sumpter and Reynolds drove it down their throats. The Nova press was toothless until they believed they could win and then they stepped it up and caused about 4 turnovers in the last 4 minutes.
The team needs to learn how to continue to assert themselves w/ the lead versus desperate teams in the 2nd half of single elimination tournament games. Getting big leads is great. Using the clock as an ally is smart. But putting your intensity in your back pocket will send you home early (nearly) every time.
Got the win. Learn the lesson. Survive, advance, triumph.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 8, 2007 15:34:07 GMT -5
Lots of ifs. I understand the concern, but it's pretty silly to play "ifs" only one way.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Mar 8, 2007 15:39:12 GMT -5
Following the game by yahoo game tracker led to some questionable moments. With Nova in the single bonus, the Nova player missed the first, but made the second ( ). On the other end, GU was in the double bonus, but listed only the GU player making one shot (no indication of whether the second shot was made or missed). Other frustrations were when Nova made the basket, then the next thing that was printed was a foul on Sapp - did Nova steal the ball, did Jesse charge, or what? So watching the last 10 minutes that way causes much heartburn.
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Post by FOTP on Mar 8, 2007 15:40:59 GMT -5
Notwithstanding that last three we basically beat a VERY good team by 8 points in the Big East. Let's all take a deep breath.
We played like the best team in the country in the first half against a team that knows everything about us. That's hard to do. It's also hard to blow out a team of that caliber in teh Big East Tournament.
Great win in the Big East and value each and every one of them.
Enjoy people! This is the glory time to be a Hoya fan again.
Now give me Cuse! I want to beat them so badly. My worst experience ever was being at the game last year. WOrst ever...even if the booze made me forget it even happened.
This is the Hoya revenge tour 2007...
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 8, 2007 15:41:17 GMT -5
Following the game by yahoo game tracker led to some questionable moments. With Nova in the single bonus, the Nova player missed the first, but made the second ( ). On the other end, GU was in the double bonus, but listed only the GU player making one shot (no indication of whether the second shot was made or missed). Other frustrations were when Nova made the basket, then the next thing that was printed was a foul on Sapp - did Nova steal the ball, did Jesse charge, or what? So watching the last 10 minutes that way causes much heartburn. For future reference Nevada, ESPN game tracker works a lot better. I used it today and had no problems with random stuff like you described.
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Post by jonnystrongleg on Mar 8, 2007 15:41:23 GMT -5
SFHoya99, yeah playing if's is not necessary today. A 35-10 lead was almost reduced to a single possession game.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 8, 2007 15:45:01 GMT -5
Survive and move on. We kept the lead at double figures until the last minute or so, got some rest for the starters - I'll take it. Let's go Irish - we crush them tomorrow if they win today.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Mar 8, 2007 15:49:18 GMT -5
1. I watched the game at Dancing Crab in Tenleytown - let's just say that there won't be a Hoop Club gamewatch there anytime soon - $12 cheeseburgers - that taste like I grilled them.
2. We learned an important lesson about not letting up when you have the lead and the dangers of playing not to lose (as opposed to playing to win) and still moved on to the semis.
3. Now lets hope the Cuse and ND game goes into two or three overtimes.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 8, 2007 15:52:49 GMT -5
SFHoya99, yeah playing if's is not necessary today. A 35-10 lead was almost reduced to a single possession game. It's not playing if's that's the problem, it's that you're playing them against us. We played awesome in the beginning and awful at then end. It's just as valid to ask what if we played well in the second half as well. This is a team that we've lost to and beat by 3. We just did it in a different way. Should we play better? Sure. But writing things like "Dude, if Scottie Reynolds had shot 100% from three, we'd have totally lost" have no point. If Jeff, Jessie, Pat and Rivers hadn't shot 0-11 from three (and that group includes 2 40% shooters) we'd have clocked them ever with the bad second half. If we'd had made our FTs it wouldn't have been that close. If, if, if...
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