757hoyafan
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Post by 757hoyafan on Mar 8, 2007 14:30:36 GMT -5
bring on the next victims.
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Just Cos
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Post by Just Cos on Mar 8, 2007 14:32:26 GMT -5
RDF I agree but a win is a win. I don't care how the game looks anymore I just want the win. Good looking loses don't get you to the next round.
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YB
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Post by YB on Mar 8, 2007 14:34:50 GMT -5
I want Syracuse. We owe those twerps bad- and now is the perfect time to rip them a new one.
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Post by big16 on Mar 8, 2007 14:35:27 GMT -5
Awesome first 10 or so minutes. Their kids. Human nature took over when they were up and didn't finish how we would want them. I think that we'll be fine. RDF- take a deep breath and realize that were not 24-6 for no reason.
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miamihoya
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Post by miamihoya on Mar 8, 2007 14:36:24 GMT -5
Obviously the second half performance was dissapointing and frustrating, but i'm willing to forget about it and move on to tommorow's game. Those first 14 minutes showed exactly why we are a threat to go deep in the big tournament. That is the Princeton offense at its best, and thats what we should try to take away from the game. I dont think the second half was representative of the type of basketball we play, and fortunatley (sort of) we shouldn't have anymore 25 pt leads to blow the rest of the way. Hopefully we can get revenge against the Orange tommorow, but if not the Irish proved the in January that they can't play with us.
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HoyaFanNY
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Mar 8, 2007 14:37:06 GMT -5
we have to play 40 minutes tomorrow if we want to win. as well as we played the first 15 minutes today, we played as bad the next 25. sapp and summers have to take better shots and actually make a few.
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Mar 8, 2007 14:38:10 GMT -5
I didn't get to see the game, but following the ticker it did look like we were fouling with the lead in the last couple minutes. Was that poor defense, or some odd way to keep them from drilling the 3? Either way it got a little scary at the end. This game will let it be known loud and clear to the players that no lead is safe in March. At least we got our wake up call in a winning effort. Some were stupid fouls--tone was set early when Scottie Reynolds did what he always does when attempting to take someone off the dribble--lost control, turned it over, and for whatever reason Wallace was called for a foul--still trying to figure that one out? Jeff had 2 fouls in 2nd Half and BOTH were beyond silly--they were uncalled for and help the other team gain momentum. Defensively--we play a lot better when our guys play solid defense in a stance and quit trying to emulate Duke with the flopping/charge takes--We got 1 huge call and personally I hate the fact players (on any team/any level) can get calls when a player is driving and in the air and you are under rim. Glad it went our way--but was type of play that you get called against you in NCAA's as a higher seed playing a lower seed and it gives your best player foul trouble. There is a lot to be learned from this game--but to sum it up, the Hoyas need to focus on what they do well and KEEP doing it. 1. Get the ball down low--and work inside/out game 2. Move the ball--superior ball movement 3. Don't spot up around 3 point line and settle 4. Summers has to be more then a spot shooter 5. ATTACK PRESSURE --look to score!
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NCHoya
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Post by NCHoya on Mar 8, 2007 14:38:51 GMT -5
We got the win and that all that counts. The last two #1 seeds in the BE tourney could not say that.
I still feel like we would have continued playing well if Nova was more competitive early, we just fell into a post-binge funk that morphed into a pattern of poor play.
I am confident we will come out with renewed focus tomorrow night and be in attack mode much more often.
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 8, 2007 14:41:35 GMT -5
1. Get the ball down low--and work inside/out game 2. Move the ball--superior ball movement 3. Don't spot up around 3 point line and settle 4. Summers has to be more then a spot shooter 5. ATTACK PRESSURE --look to score! I'd add Jessie to point #4. He can make his threes, but he is not a three point shooter. And he needs to remember that.
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Mar 8, 2007 14:41:46 GMT -5
Scottie Reynolds = Stephon Marbury? Actually Reynolds reminds me a lot of Gerry McNamara--a good player if having a role on a team and a very suspect/overrated player if you rely on him as your playmaker. Reynolds can hurt you when he's hot--but if he's not making shots, what does he bring to his team? He's beyond awful as a ball handler and I can't tell you how many times I've seen him lose his handle, fumble the ball, turn it over, and either get bailed out with a bogus foul call or get lucky a Nova player got possession. If you play up on him--he's not a factor--just don't give him open looks.
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Just Cos
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Post by Just Cos on Mar 8, 2007 14:41:53 GMT -5
While I always want Cuse to lose, it would be nice to smack them a new one.
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nodak89
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Post by nodak89 on Mar 8, 2007 14:43:26 GMT -5
I only saw 2 minutes of the first half and 17 minutes of the second half. I think I'll feel better after watching the first half.
GO HOYAS!!!
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Post by guhoyasfan36 on Mar 8, 2007 14:44:47 GMT -5
A tale of two halfs. Maybe a little to much cruise control, not enough knock out punch, But I'll take the W. I thought Roy played great today. Rest and get ready, BET is good prep for the tourney. Bring on the next victim, and come out firing again.
GO HOYAS!!!!
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GUJook97
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Post by GUJook97 on Mar 8, 2007 14:46:42 GMT -5
i know brasky and others have made this point, but the reason we struggle against a tight press and at the end of games is because Wallace is just not the type of guard who can/will break a press with a dribble. Unless and until we have someone to do that, and maybe Wright is that guy, we will be forced to pass around presses and always have to make FTs. If you can break the press with an open dribble, you get Roy sitting under the basket for a dunk.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Mar 8, 2007 14:51:54 GMT -5
6 pages of post game commentary fifty minutes after the game? Go back to work fellas.
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Hoya50
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Post by Hoya50 on Mar 8, 2007 14:52:03 GMT -5
good win today. can't sweat the comeback too much. tip your hat to nova for not quitting. the hoyas got the ball inside consistently in the first half and were able to convert at will.
can't wait until tomorrow.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Mar 8, 2007 14:53:11 GMT -5
I watched the whole game at Mackey's surrounded by both Hoya and Nova fans -- the best way to spend an afternoon, really. Fan of the Week goes to drumsgobang, who took vacation time yesterday, today, and next thurs and fri just to watch hoops. Nice.
First of all GO HOYAS - way to win a tough one against the team you had the most trouble with this season.
Second - stellar first half. Way to bring it to the Cats, run your offense, play some tough D, and break the press. Fun basketball to watch all the way around.
Third - lousy second half. I dunno what it was - the press, the trap, the 3ball shooting, or what - but giving up a 19 point halftime lead to bring it down to a nailbiter is no good. I respect the win (at this point in the season that's a given), but something must be done to address the issue of giving up a large lead. As other posters pointed out, the "prevent" only prevents wins.
Fourth - way to keep your poise when things started slipping away. With the exception of Jessie's horrible decisions to keep shooting the 3, Jon's questionable ball handling, and DaJuan's disappearance, I have to give you credit for gutting it out. Nice hustle too. Nova is a good team, and you pulled it off.
Fifth - and thank goodness for that; we were worried that we'd repeat last year's meltdown against the Cuse. I cringe at the thought.
Finally - let's get pumped for tomorrow night. How often do we get to watch the Hoyas play at 7pm on a Friday? This is awesome. I can't wait!!
GO HOYAS!!!
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Mar 8, 2007 14:54:02 GMT -5
We won the game and that's all that matters. And, I would take Scottie Reynolds on my team any day, particularly considering he's only a freshman. He had the type of game Michael Jackson had sometimes as a freshman.
On to either Syracuse or Notre Dame.
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Mar 8, 2007 15:00:30 GMT -5
McDonough will be insufferable tomorrow if Syracuse wins today. (not that he wasn't a prick today, but it pales in comparison to what he will be like tomorrow)
I guarantee no less than 25 mentions of Saint Gerry.
On the plus side, Jay Bilas might very well punch Sean in the face if he gets too bad.
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Mar 8, 2007 15:01:48 GMT -5
Wallace also has to learn to be stronger with the ball and not flop. There are 2 things that are silly in basketball--guys always trying to try contact--Jeff on his 3 pt attempts--and Sumpter did it late--Wright screamed at him to "JUST SHOOT THE BALL" and quit worrying about the foul--when you do that--you don't get call. Second is when guys at first touch flop to ground thinking a foul will be called--Wallace does this a lot. He's got to realize you break pressure--hit guy ahead--use the 3 on 1 and score.
The point of beating pressure with lead is to move the ball and NOT get fouled-you want clock to go down and if you have 4 on 1--why hold it--move the ball--make them chase and either you get a dunk/layup--or the clock runs down but you force their hand--when you have 2 on 4 and hold ball to get fouled--it's silly. That has resulted in Jon's turnovers more then anything--when he gets doubled/bodyed up--he falls--keep your feet, be strong and then knock shots down if they foul but don't try and bait the call--make them foul you or attack and move the ball.
Wright will destroy pressure--his ball handling is superior and his speed will not allow the double teams to matter as much. Until then--we need Wallace and Sapp to be better with ball and I like how Jessie handles pressure better then any guard we have on team right now. But Jon's our best FT Shooter--so it's key for Jessie to hit shots and for Jon to attack more and not try and draw the fouls in backcourt when refs let guys get away with more.
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