mit0313
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Post by mit0313 on Mar 8, 2007 14:11:17 GMT -5
This is a clinic in how NOT to hold a lead. You said it...yikes
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nodak89
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Post by nodak89 on Mar 8, 2007 14:11:22 GMT -5
oh my goodness
62-57 final sheesh.
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JB5
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Post by JB5 on Mar 8, 2007 14:12:17 GMT -5
Whew. That was unecessarily close.
Why wouldn't they get it to Wllace when 'Nova was fouling?
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Mar 8, 2007 14:12:55 GMT -5
Closer than it needed to be, but I'll take it!
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Mar 8, 2007 14:13:01 GMT -5
Well, not how I saw a 26-2 and 35-10 lead ending up. Good thing I'm at work and couldn't watch us try to give it away.
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Post by bostonhoya05 on Mar 8, 2007 14:13:13 GMT -5
Sumpter 3 changed the money. We were -6.5. He cut it from 8 to 5. That's gotta kill.
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zxhoya
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Post by zxhoya on Mar 8, 2007 14:14:44 GMT -5
Good opening round win against a good Villinova team. Now, come on Syracuse.
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hifigator
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Post by hifigator on Mar 8, 2007 14:15:47 GMT -5
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No discussion of wagering on basketball games here please. Noone here is interested in your bets on games.
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Just Cos
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Post by Just Cos on Mar 8, 2007 14:16:27 GMT -5
Sumpter 3 changed the money. We were -6.5. He cut it from 8 to 5. That's gotta kill. I had -4
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hifigator
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Post by hifigator on Mar 8, 2007 14:16:37 GMT -5
Sumpter 3 changed the money. We were -6.5. He cut it from 8 to 5. That's gotta kill. Ouch, you had it at 6.5. I guess I shouldn't complain then.
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Post by NCHoya on Mar 8, 2007 14:16:49 GMT -5
I know it is hard to continue to concentrate and execute after getting out to a HUGE lead early on a neutral court, but there is no reason we should have taken so many 3s and 60% from the FT line is atrocious for this team.
I am confident we would have stayed sharp if we did not feel we had already won at half-time, but we need start pulling guys out that are not running the offense. Jacking 3's is the one thing we cannot afford to do in a big lead situation. Get to the line and foul out the entire Nova team!
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 8, 2007 14:18:23 GMT -5
I'll be watching the game later (only saw the last 5 minutes on my computer), but it appears there is little positive to take from this game after the first 10 minutes. We were abominable down the stretch. I particularly liked the back to back to back turnovers that culminated in Reynolds missing a wide open 3 that could have reduced the lead to 3. Truly awful.
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GUJook97
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Post by GUJook97 on Mar 8, 2007 14:18:49 GMT -5
To be fair, this was a different game than any game in the regular season (and it expect it to be like this from here on out). Any other game, and Villanova goes to sleep as well. But, give them credit, they wanted the BET title, and they fought all the way to the end. Welcome to the post-season, boys, you have to play 40 minutes !
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 8, 2007 14:21:59 GMT -5
The important stat this time of year is the final score. Just win and advance. Today's mission accomplished.
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hifigator
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Post by hifigator on Mar 8, 2007 14:24:39 GMT -5
One thing we saw was the tremendous advantage of that first round bye. I think Nova looked tired from the very start. Reynolds didn't have quite the first step and also kept leaving his jump shots short. I'm not sure if that would explain their missed free throws as well. One thing I didn't like was how the guys kept fouling with the lead in the last minute. That is not a good way to finish a game.
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Post by RDF on Mar 8, 2007 14:25:04 GMT -5
Sumpter's shot had zilch to do with beating the spread--a team playing like they wanted the clock to run out instead of taking their game to another level caused this game to be less then double digits. This should've been a 15 pt+ win today--there is NO EXCUSE for the stupid basketball we had to watch today in the 2nd Half. As I said last week--this time of year is about what YOU are doing and the team has to take their game to another level--you don't win titles by playing 20 minutes of good basketball--and for the love of Hoops God--can this team learn that the stupid friggin 3pt line isn't needed to KNOCKOUT a team? Inside/out is how you get good shots--and why the perimeter guys hit shots--the dribble down the clock--and run pattern and ignore your post feeds--it's not only Roy who gets ignored on block--Patrick and Jeff had guys sealed and ball wasn't delivered and Summers isn't even looking to post--he's relegated himself to being a spot 3pt shooter--he's too good of a basketball player to just stand and spot shoot--move and be active!
III and Staff have to do what they did on the last play to break a press--you look to score--it doesn't matter if it's 3 on 1 or 3 on 2--you have to LOOK to score--if you run an efficient halfcourt offense, and you can add easy/high percentage looks in favorable situations like you get beating a press--you will destroy a team--this game should've been at LEAST a 15 point win and if we'd looked to attack, I'd say we win by 25+ as Nova would've been discouraged as we saw in 1st Half.
It's about how GU plays and this game today sends you home--guys ignoring what got them lead, hoisting up silly 3pt shots after "running the offense" and not looking to score. Some of the 3's missed were good shots--running shot clock down to less then 5 seconds and hoisting is not. When a team is doubling down--you kick it out--and go right back in--if you rotate ball--often the guy flying out leaves an easier shot closer to rim wide open--use some discipline and get the best shot available.
Jeff Green was marginal today and quite awful in the last 5 minutes of the game--your best player has to step up and he was AWOL. Time to take the game up if this team wants to win in March and today's performance can be best thing to happen or a devastating forshadowing of what is ahead. Up the program to decide how they want to play? Want to win and take on the challenge or want to hope other team stinks and you just cruise to victory? Loved 1st Half and the pace/tempo, shot selection, ball movement, and decision making. 2nd Half? Terrible decision making, sloppy passing, dumb shot selection, worrying about clock and not game--it's a game predicated on OUTSCORING your opponent--if you are up 19 at the Half--and you take same type of approach to game-you DESTROY your opponent. That is what I want to see--a team who WANTS TO HUMILIATE the opposition with high quality ball--not a team who is coasting. Editeded me off to no end and this actually feels more like a loss to me--not that I don't appreciate the "W" but hate the way the guys played 2nd Half and know that won't cut it tomorrow if it repeats itself.
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 8, 2007 14:25:47 GMT -5
The important stat this time of year is the final score. Just win and advance. Today's mission accomplished. And after that half, you know the team isn't full of themselves like they could be after a blowout.
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Post by cebuhoya on Mar 8, 2007 14:29:04 GMT -5
The important stat this time of year is the final score. Just win and advance. Today's mission accomplished. Let's forget about the second half and get ready for tomorrow's game. Hope the Cuse beat ND because I want the boys to get their revenge. HOYA SAXA.
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Mar 8, 2007 14:29:33 GMT -5
I didn't get to see the game, but following the ticker it did look like we were fouling with the lead in the last couple minutes. Was that poor defense, or some odd way to keep them from drilling the 3? Either way it got a little scary at the end.
This game will let it be known loud and clear to the players that no lead is safe in March. At least we got our wake up call in a winning effort.
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Mar 8, 2007 14:30:22 GMT -5
One thing we saw was the tremendous advantage of that first round bye. I think Nova looked tired from the very start. Reynolds didn't have quite the first step and also kept leaving his jump shots short. I'm not sure if that would explain their missed free throws as well. One thing I didn't like was how the guys kept fouling with the lead in the last minute. That is not a good way to finish a game. What you saw was what some of us who think Scottie Reynolds is being overhyped beyond belief have seen in his game. He's a nice role player and shooter--but when he's forced to take on the role he did the past 2 days--he brings nothing to worry you. He is awful with the basketball and trying to set up others, and he's not a factor on other end of court--he's a nice player and will be far more effective in the future when a real PG takes over and he can just spot up. Of course he won't get the shot attempts he took this year--so maybe he'll appear less effective to stat hounds--but he'll be more of a weapon due to not having to distribute/run the team--which makes him a less effective player. Fisher, Reynolds, and Stokes will be a pain to deal with-but Fisher will make game easier for Reynolds--which he can't do for his current teammates.
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