Big Dog
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Post by Big Dog on Mar 4, 2007 20:29:16 GMT -5
Has the Hoyas as a no. 3 seed in a bracket with no. 2 UNC and no. 1 Kansas. That would NOT be a grouping I'd like to see. sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology[UPDATE 3/5: Lunardi now has us as a 2 seed, moving us ahead of Memphis]
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Mar 4, 2007 20:35:20 GMT -5
I think he posted this bracket in the morning. Suffice to say that ODU is probably out now. Expect some rejiggering tomorrow.
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Mar 4, 2007 20:38:39 GMT -5
I really want the #2 seed. I think right now the seeding is still very uncertain. The conferecne tournaments should be a lot of fun, I expect a lot of upsets. Just not our Hoyas.
I still predict, barring a collapse, Memphis will get a #2. It's not right, but I just think that's the way it will play out.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Mar 4, 2007 20:54:02 GMT -5
www.draftexpress.com/bracketexpress.phpThis bracket was done today. They think ODU is a lock, per pregame comments. They have us as a 2 in Buffalo. How we don't play in Winston-Salem, I don't know.
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Big Dog
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Post by Big Dog on Mar 4, 2007 21:04:24 GMT -5
but you still have to figure he puts Memphis as a no. 2 instead of us, which is, I'm sorry, a joke.
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 4, 2007 21:07:02 GMT -5
ODU is likely in unless George Mason wins the tourney. Even if Mason does ODU still has a great shot but someone from the Big Boys may fall out.
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Post by GULaw on Mar 4, 2007 21:29:17 GMT -5
To get a 2-seed, we have to be ahead of at least one of UCLA, OSU, Wisc., UNC, A&M, Kansas, Florida, and Memphis. Of those 8, only UNC has a like 6 losses. The reality is, IMO, unless we win the BET, a 3-seed is likely. A loss in the finals or semis would make getting a 2-seed unlikely absent an earlier round loss by A&M or UNC, or Memphis not winning its tourney.
Of those 8, I think Memphis is the most undeserving because of their conference, and I think we get the 2 seed over them if we win the BET, regardless of what Memphis does in its tourney.
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Post by lichoya68 on Mar 4, 2007 22:10:42 GMT -5
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Post by RDF on Mar 4, 2007 23:15:55 GMT -5
I don't worry about brackets/seedings because it comes down to this--to win something you have to BEAT SOMEONE, so might as well bring it on--remember they have to play you too! As for teams I prefer to see in Hoyas region--UNC is one I don't even sweat--they play no defense and they are S-O-F-T. Bring those pansies on and I'm glad the Duke guy gave a hard foul in that instance. "Psycho T" is all talk and when someone smacks him around--he flails around like your typical pansy ACC interior players. I'd also love to be anywhere near Memphis and Scumapari--we owe that slickster one big butt kicking. Really don't care who you have in a region-as you only play 1 team at a time and if you worry about the "possibilities" it usually NEVER happens. Worry on task at hand and kick the snot out of anyone in the path of accomplishing the goal.
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Post by canissaxa on Mar 5, 2007 0:58:21 GMT -5
Len Elmore had us (and Duke) as a 5 seed on College Gamenight this evening! Crazy! I wasn't sure that I had heard him right since he is usually such a good analyst. Did anyone else hear this?
Also, RDF, I'm a bit surprised that you aren't at least a little scared of UNC. Pomero has them at #1 (and #3 in adjusted defensive efficiency). Are you basing your lack of respect on visual analysis?
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Post by RDF on Mar 5, 2007 3:01:04 GMT -5
Len Elmore had us (and Duke) as a 5 seed on College Gamenight this evening! Crazy! I wasn't sure that I had heard him right since he is usually such a good analyst. Did anyone else here this? Also, RDF, I'm a bit surprised that you aren't at least a little scared of UNC. Pomero has them at #1 (and #3 in adjusted defensive efficiency). Are you basing your lack of respect on visual analysis? I'm basing it on the fact they are soft--they don't play defense, and they can't get stops when challenged. Not to mention someone like Tyler Hansbrough isn't going to be nearly the factor when facing a frontline like Hoyas present and it's always easier to slow a fast paced team down then it is to get a halfcourt team to play uptempo. UNC has a lot of one dimensional players at this time--they have talent and will be a great team down the road but this year--I don't see it. They let teams hang in games due to not playing any defense and playing uptempo in halfcourt with less firepower then 2 years ago when they had a legit #1 team in terms of talent/versatility. They are in same boat as Hoyas and other teams and I don't see them as a team to fear this year. I'd rather see them then Kansas--who has a ton of weapons/talent and can exploit matchups with bigs who are skilled and excellent guards. I don't fear any team, but Kansas is a tougher matchup then UNC in my opinion.
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Post by SirSaxa on Mar 5, 2007 3:57:47 GMT -5
Is there a significant, practical difference between a #2 seed and a #3 seed? Either way, you don't play the #1 seed until the regional final. If you're #2. you play #3 in the regional Semifinal. If you are a #3, then you play the #2 (that some feel we should be) in the regional semifinal.
I don't see a significant advantage in being a #2 over a #3.
And either way, winning the BE Conference for the first time since 1989 seems like a much more important achievement. Winning the BET is a LOT more important than being a #2 or #3.
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Post by HoyaSpirit on Mar 5, 2007 6:44:23 GMT -5
I agree - I don't see a lot of difference between being a 2 and 3, but see a lot of difference between being a 3 and a 4.
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Post by Madgesdiq on Mar 5, 2007 7:05:54 GMT -5
Yuck. I want to see UNC and Kansas in the same bracket, just not with us!
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Post by Madgesdiq on Mar 5, 2007 7:07:22 GMT -5
I really want the #2 seed. I think right now the seeding is still very uncertain. The conferecne tournaments should be a lot of fun, I expect a lot of upsets. Just not our Hoyas. I still predict, barring a collapse, Memphis will get a #2. It's not right, but I just think that's the way it will play out. Memphis stinks.
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Post by prhoya on Mar 5, 2007 7:38:47 GMT -5
I hope that if we get a #3, Memphis is our #2.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Mar 5, 2007 9:06:34 GMT -5
While it is easy to knock Memphis because of SOS and weak conference, for them to have actually won all those games that they should have, without one slipup, is quite an accomplishment. Give them credit for staying focused when a letdown could have easily been in the cards. That said, I think we are a better team, and I do not fear them. In fact, I continue to believe that we have as good a shot at the whole thing as anyone.
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Big Dog
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Post by Big Dog on Mar 5, 2007 10:00:50 GMT -5
Is there a significant, practical difference between a #2 seed and a #3 seed? Either way, you don't play the #1 seed until the regional final. If you're #2. you play #3 in the regional Semifinal. If you are a #3, then you play the #2 (that some feel we should be) in the regional semifinal. I don't see a significant advantage in being a #2 over a #3. And either way, winning the BE Conference for the first time since 1989 seems like a much more important achievement. Winning the BET is a LOT more important than being a #2 or #3. A 14 seed stunning a 3 seed in the first round is a far more common historical occurrence than a 15 over a 2. and i'd rather face a 7 seed than a 6 as well.
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Post by YB on Mar 5, 2007 10:09:55 GMT -5
I don't fear anyone. UNC and KU are the 2 youngest teams among the 1 ande 2 seeds. We'd backdoor them to death.
I'll take that region. I don't even think UNC would beat Tennesseein the 2nd round.
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Post by Big Dog on Mar 5, 2007 10:16:11 GMT -5
A new Lunardi now has us as a 2 seed, ahead of Memphis, with Florida replacing Wisconsin as the no. 1. With Ohio State at 1 and Wash. St. at 3, this is a bracket you'd love, although our second round game would be a challenge.
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