DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 3, 2007 16:29:04 GMT -5
Two words: GO FRIARS
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Post by mikeylikesit on Mar 3, 2007 16:30:20 GMT -5
so are we locked in to the noon thursday game now? i'm gonna try and start looking around for tickets.
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Post by bostonhoya05 on Mar 3, 2007 16:31:19 GMT -5
GU wrapped up #1.
Even if Pitt won and Louisville lost...
1st tiebreaK: Head-to-head - (split season series)
2nd tiebreak: compare records against top teams - if Louisville lost to ND, it would be: Pitt 0-1 (didn't play ND) GU 2-0 (even if uneven games, Pitt couldn't equal if games were equal)
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Mar 3, 2007 16:32:43 GMT -5
Not sure who i rather play Nova or Providence. Providence is playing some very tough ball. No matter the outcome our quarterfinal game is going to be tough whether it's Providence, WV, Nova, Marquette or DePaul.
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Post by IlladelpHoya on Mar 3, 2007 16:36:48 GMT -5
Boston, I'm gonna take a guess that you weren't SFS ...
Thank you very much for the breakdown ... very helpful. I see your first prognostication as the most likely ... that would give us the winner of Prov/WV ... I'd rather play WV, but I think we can take either team ...
Noon on Thursday? Hmmm ... better tell my boss Monday about that doctor's appointment ...
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lichoya68
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OK YOUNGINS ARE HERE AND ARE VERY VERY GOOD cant wait GO HOYAS
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Post by lichoya68 on Mar 3, 2007 21:14:39 GMT -5
IS NOON THURS FOR SURE NOT SURE BY THE COMMENTS GOHOYAS BUT FIRST GO QUETTE BEATPITT BECAUSE NUMBER ONE ITLL GIVE US SOLE BIG EAST TITLE AND TWO IVE GOT SOME INLAWS FROM PITT WHO ARE VERY NICE PEOPLE EXCEPT THEY ARE PITT FANS ANYWAY GO QUETTE AND ARE WE SURE FOR THURS..
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lichoya68
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OK YOUNGINS ARE HERE AND ARE VERY VERY GOOD cant wait GO HOYAS
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Post by lichoya68 on Mar 3, 2007 21:20:55 GMT -5
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Post by mikeylikesit on Mar 3, 2007 21:32:37 GMT -5
IS NOON THURS FOR SURE NOT SURE BY THE COMMENTS yep, we're set for thursday at noon.
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lichoya68
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OK YOUNGINS ARE HERE AND ARE VERY VERY GOOD cant wait GO HOYAS
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Post by lichoya68 on Mar 3, 2007 22:07:54 GMT -5
thanks mikey likes it thurs noon will be there
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Post by bostonhoya05 on Mar 4, 2007 0:57:56 GMT -5
The HOYAS have locked up the #1 seed.
They will play the winner of the 8/9 game (Noon on Wedneday), but it's a mystery still as to who that will be. - If Providence wins tomorrow, it will be Providence against Depaul - If Providence loses tomorrow, it will be Nova against Depaul
The full seeding with the two games tomorrow:SH-Louisville (tomorrow, noon) Providence-St. John's (tomorrow, 2pm)
2 x 2 = 4 scenarios
And here they are and the standings that would result from each:
Louisville over SH Providence over St. J's 1 HOYAS 2 Louisville (12-4; head-to-head over Pitt) 3 Pitt 4 ND 5 Cuse (10-6; head-to-head over Marquette) 6 Marquette (10-6) 7 WV 8 Prov/Depaul - (wouldn't matter because 8/9) 9 Prov/Depaul 10 Nova 11 Uconn 12 St. John's *4-way tie: 7. WV (2-1) 8. Prov/Depaul (1-1) (not sure who would be ahead, but it wouldn’t matter since 8/9 anyway) 9. Prov/Depaul (1-1) 10. Nova (1-2)
Louisville over SH St. J's over Providence 1 HOYAS 2 Louisville (12-4, head-to-head over Pitt) 3 Pitt 4 ND (11-5) 5 Cuse (10-6; head-to-head over Marq) 6 Marquette (10-6) 7 WV 8 Depaul 9 Nova 10 Prov (8-8) 11 St. John's (7-9) 12 Uconn (6-10) *3-way tie at 9-7: 7. WV (2-0 vs. Depaul/Nova) 8. Depaul (1-1 vs. WV/Nova) 9. Nova (0-2 vs. WV/Depaul)
SH over Louis Providence over St. J's 1 HOYAS (13-3) 2 Pitt (12-4) 3 ND (11-5; head-to-head over L'ville) 4 Louisville 5 Cuse (10-6, but beat Marq) 6 Marquette (10-6) 7 WV 8 Prov/Depaul - (wouldn't matter because 8/9) 9 Prov/Depaul 10 Nova 11 Uconn 12 St. John's *4-way tie at 9-7: 7. WV (2-1) 8. Prov/Depaul (1-1) (not sure who would be ahead, but it wouldn’t matter since 8/9 anyway) 9. Prov/Depaul (1-1) 10. Nova (1-2)
SH over Louis St. J's over Providence 1 HOYAS (13-3) 2 Pitt (12-4) 3 ND (11-5) 4 L'Ville (11-5) 5 Cuse (10-6) 6 Marquette (10-6, lost to Cuse) 7 WV 8 Depaul 9 Nova 10 Prov (8-8) 11 St. John's (7-9) 12 Uconn (6-10) *3-way tie at 9-7: 7. WV (2-0 vs. Depaul/Nova) 8. Depaul (1-1 vs. WV/Nova) 9. Nova (0-2 vs. WV/Depaul)
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Post by bostonhoya05 on Mar 4, 2007 1:03:20 GMT -5
There is no easy win in the Big East, BUT if Louisville and Providence win tomorrow, we would have a draw that would exclude the teams that I think are most dangerous until the finals:
#2 Louisville #3 Pitt #6 Marquette #10 Villanova
Neither our quarterfinal or Semifinal games will be easy, but they'll be easier than they might have been.
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hoyaboy1
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Mar 4, 2007 1:03:40 GMT -5
Bostonhoya, amazing work - but I think you made an error in your most recent post.
You said that if Providence loses 8/9 will be Nova v. WV, but you have WV listed as number 7 in every scenario.
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Post by bostonhoya05 on Mar 4, 2007 1:06:30 GMT -5
Corrected - I meant Depaul. Looks like Depaul will be in the 8-9 game regardless. If Prov wins, they'll join them; if not, it will be the Cats.
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HarbinHoya
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Post by HarbinHoya on Mar 4, 2007 1:31:01 GMT -5
can someone just explain something to me.If providence wins then both them and nova have the same record. Nova beat providence this season so why would providence get the tie breaker? Im hoping its true Im just confused why
Matt
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Post by mikeylikesit on Mar 4, 2007 2:03:00 GMT -5
can someone just explain something to me.If providence wins then both them and nova have the same record. Nova beat providence this season so why would providence get the tie breaker? Im hoping its true Im just confused why Matt if more than two teams are tied with the same record (if prov. wins, then wv, depaul, prov, and nova will all be 9-7), then the big east has the "miniconference" tiebreaker. you add up the wins and losses of each tied team against all of the other teams in the miniconference. thus, although nova beat providence, they also lost to depaul and west virginia, so their record in the miniconference is 1-2. wv, depaul, and prov all had better records than that against each other (2-1, 1-1, 1-1), so nova is last in the pecking order. hope that was clear, it's kinda confusing.
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PopeJohn2
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Post by PopeJohn2 on Mar 4, 2007 10:15:00 GMT -5
bostonhoya, wow i think they got a job waiting for you over at sabremetrics!
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Post by bostonhoya05 on Mar 4, 2007 10:47:04 GMT -5
Assuming Prov and Louisville do win today, check out some of these matchups:
First Round: 7/10 - WV-Nova
2nd Round: 3/6 - Pitt/Marquette 2/7/10 - Louisville vs. WV/Nova 4/5 - Syracuse vs. ND
Going to be great at MSG
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Post by HealyHoya on Mar 4, 2007 13:05:50 GMT -5
The HOYAS have locked up the #1 seed.They will play the winner of the 8/9 game (Noon on Wedneday), but it's a mystery still as to who that will be. - If Providence wins tomorrow, it will be Providence against Depaul - If Providence loses tomorrow, it will be Nova against Depaul The full seeding with the two games tomorrow:SH-Louisville (tomorrow, noon) Providence-St. John's (tomorrow, 2pm) 2 x 2 = 4 scenarios And here they are and the standings that would result from each:Louisville over SH Providence over St. J's1 HOYAS 2 Louisville (12-4; head-to-head over Pitt) 3 Pitt 4 ND 5 Cuse (10-6; head-to-head over Marquette) 6 Marquette (10-6) 7 WV 8 Prov/Depaul - (wouldn't matter because 8/9) 9 Prov/Depaul 10 Nova 11 Uconn 12 St. John's *4-way tie: 7. WV (2-1) 8. Prov/Depaul (1-1) (not sure who would be ahead, but it wouldn’t matter since 8/9 anyway) 9. Prov/Depaul (1-1) 10. Nova (1-2) Louisville over SH St. J's over Providence1 HOYAS 2 Louisville (12-4, head-to-head over Pitt) 3 Pitt 4 ND (11-5) 5 Cuse (10-6; head-to-head over Marq) 6 Marquette (10-6) 7 WV 8 Depaul 9 Nova 10 Prov (8-8) 11 St. John's (7-9) 12 Uconn (6-10) *3-way tie at 9-7: 7. WV (2-0 vs. Depaul/Nova) 8. Depaul (1-1 vs. WV/Nova) 9. Nova (0-2 vs. WV/Depaul) SH over Louis Providence over St. J's1 HOYAS (13-3) 2 Pitt (12-4) 3 ND (11-5; head-to-head over L'ville) 4 Louisville 5 Cuse (10-6, but beat Marq) 6 Marquette (10-6) 7 WV 8 Prov/Depaul - (wouldn't matter because 8/9) 9 Prov/Depaul 10 Nova 11 Uconn 12 St. John's *4-way tie at 9-7: 7. WV (2-1) 8. Prov/Depaul (1-1) (not sure who would be ahead, but it wouldn’t matter since 8/9 anyway) 9. Prov/Depaul (1-1) 10. Nova (1-2) SH over Louis St. J's over Providence1 HOYAS (13-3) 2 Pitt (12-4) 3 ND (11-5) 4 L'Ville (11-5) 5 Cuse (10-6) 6 Marquette (10-6, lost to Cuse) 7 WV 8 Depaul 9 Nova 10 Prov (8-8) 11 St. John's (7-9) 12 Uconn (6-10) *3-way tie at 9-7: 7. WV (2-0 vs. Depaul/Nova) 8. Depaul (1-1 vs. WV/Nova) 9. Nova (0-2 vs. WV/Depaul) Great post, Boston. I just love that under any and all possible scenarios, the Hoyas are the #1 seed!!!!!
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Mar 4, 2007 13:58:04 GMT -5
Louisville is locking up the 2 seed. Pitt is now the 3 seed.
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Post by bostonhoya05 on Mar 4, 2007 14:08:20 GMT -5
Right indeed. Louisville is #2, Pitt #3, ND #4, Cuse #5, Marquette #6.
For the rest:
If Providence beats St. J's 1 HOYAS 2 Louisville (12-4; head-to-head over Pitt) 3 Pitt 4 ND 5 Cuse (10-6; head-to-head over Marquette) 6 Marquette (10-6) 7 WV 8 Prov/Depaul - (wouldn't matter because 8/9) 9 Prov/Depaul 10 Nova 11 Uconn 12 St. John's *4-way tie: 7. WV (2-1) 8. Prov/Depaul (1-1) (not sure who would be ahead, but it wouldn’t matter since 8/9 anyway) 9. Prov/Depaul (1-1) 10. Nova (1-2)
If St. J's beats Providence 1 HOYAS 2 Louisville (12-4, head-to-head over Pitt) 3 Pitt 4 ND (11-5) 5 Cuse (10-6; head-to-head over Marq) 6 Marquette (10-6) 7 WV 8 Depaul 9 Nova 10 Prov (8-8) 11 St. John's (7-9) 12 Uconn (6-10) *3-way tie at 9-7: 7. WV (2-0 vs. Depaul/Nova) 8. Depaul (1-1 vs. WV/Nova) 9. Nova (0-2 vs. WV/Depaul)
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