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Post by reggie on Feb 23, 2007 17:33:29 GMT -5
where did you get that line jack?
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Big Dog
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Post by Big Dog on Feb 23, 2007 17:38:32 GMT -5
It is worth mentioning that we have not played particularly well for the first 15 minutes or so of each of our last two games--and that in both cases we were facing a team that was seeing us for the second time. Both teams focused on keeping Hibbert out of the flow, and succeeded to a significant degree, meaning our offense took considerable time to adjust. In both cases we were fortunate to be able to climb back into the game thanks to some big 3-point shooting.
But Pitt is obviously better than both Cincy and Nova, and I'd very much like to see us come out playing a lot more comfortably early in the game tomorrow. I would not expect us to be able to come back from a double digit deficit for the third game in a row. Not against Pitt's rugged style of defense.
We need to come out of the gate much better tomorrow than we have the last two games. I do think playing at home will help, but playing well early will be critical to our chances.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2007 17:59:25 GMT -5
Vegas loves us. As they should.
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pkhoya03
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Post by pkhoya03 on Feb 23, 2007 19:31:18 GMT -5
It is worth mentioning that we have not played particularly well for the first 15 minutes or so of each of our last two games--and that in both cases we were facing a team that was seeing us for the second time. Both teams focused on keeping Hibbert out of the flow, and succeeded to a significant degree, meaning our offense took considerable time to adjust. In both cases we were fortunate to be able to climb back into the game thanks to some big 3-point shooting. But Pitt is obviously better than both Cincy and Nova, and I'd very much like to see us come out playing a lot more comfortably early in the game tomorrow. I would not expect us to be able to come back from a double digit deficit for the third game in a row. Not against Pitt's rugged style of defense. We need to come out of the gate much better tomorrow than we have the last two games. I do think playing at home will help, but playing well early will be critical to our chances. Totally agree. With Gray having ankle problems since last Saturday, you know Pitt's been studying tape of what 'Nova and Cincy did to deny Roy the ball. We can't just assume that Roy will have an easy time if Gray doesn't play. Need to come out gunning and aggressive (smart too!), and never let up. Hope the boys can give the crowd no reason to sit down. EDIT - By "No reason to sit down" I am hoping we're dominating to such a degree that the entire Verizon center is on its feet screaming for the entire game. I do not hope for a close game.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 23, 2007 19:35:02 GMT -5
Gray doesn't matter. Pitt has a good team, and having the opponents' best player out never seems to help us -- see the Troy Murphy game for a perfect example.
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Locker
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Post by Locker on Feb 23, 2007 20:37:32 GMT -5
Gray doesn't matter. Pitt has a good team, and having the opponents' best player out never seems to help us -- see the Troy Murphy game for a perfect example. I don't know, SF. Your boy Pomeroy seems to disagree. "It just so happened that when the Pittsburgh Post Gazette’s Ray Fittipaldo wanted to step outside the box and do a story on the plus/minus concept, it gave me an opportunity to carry out this kind of analysis on a team where the star player does get some meaningful time on the bench. Aaron Gray is widely thought of as All-American/Big East POY material, and yet he averages 29 minutes a game. Not surprisingly, on/off data shows that Gray makes a huge difference to Pitt.
With Gray on the floor, Pitt is a +17 per 40 minutes, and with Gray on the bench, Pitt is -2. So over 40 minutes, Aaron Gray is worth about 19 points to Pitt. In his typical 29-minute game, he’s worth about 14 points. Basically, if Pitt had lost Gray to a season ending injury during Midnight Madness, they’d have a sub-.500 conference record. Which makes sense when you consider that Gray’s rating dwarfs any other Pitt player. Antonio Graves came in a distant second with an on/off of +5."
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Post by jackdog74 on Feb 23, 2007 21:02:32 GMT -5
Question -- in the game we won at the Verizon Center last year, and when we made our run at the Pete this year, we used a 2-3 defense to very effectively shut down Gray and the Panthers. With that being said, what are the chances we go zone all game (or at least a significant, major portion of the game) in order to keep Pitt in check? I remember watching the last game and nearly screaming at the tv (why nearly, my 2 year old was sleeping), wondering why II did not employ the 2-3 more.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 23, 2007 21:25:47 GMT -5
Locker,
I'm being totally illogical. The opponent losing their best player always seems to result in us losing. Maybe this was only an Esherick-era phenonemon, maybe not.
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MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Feb 23, 2007 21:40:12 GMT -5
It is worth mentioning that we have not played particularly well for the first 15 minutes or so of each of our last two games--and that in both cases we were facing a team that was seeing us for the second time. Wow. I didn't even put two and two together. The three teams that we see twice we happen to be playing back-to-back-to-back during this stretch. Who came up with that schedule?
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Post by HometownHoya on Feb 23, 2007 23:22:46 GMT -5
Question -- in the game we won at the Verizon Center last year, and when we made our run at the Pete this year, we used a 2-3 defense to very effectively shut down Gray and the Panthers. With that being said, what are the chances we go zone all game (or at least a significant, major portion of the game) in order to keep Pitt in check? I remember watching the last game and nearly screaming at the tv (why nearly, my 2 year old was sleeping), wondering why II did not employ the 2-3 more. I think we will probably go zone a good amount of time, but I doubt we will go the whole amount or a significant amount. Pitt isn't stupid, they will be practicing to beat the zone if we shut them down last time.
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Post by Grandpa on Feb 24, 2007 1:11:18 GMT -5
If Gray can't play, Kendall will have to pick up slackSaturday, February 24, 2007 By Ray Fittipaldo, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette www.post-gazette.com/pg/07055/764715-175.stmGeorgetown likely will look to Hibbert more today if Pitt senior center Aaron Gray is unable to play. Gray has a badly sprained left ankle and could miss a second consecutive game. His status won't be determined until shortly before game time.
Pitt's defensive strategy likely will change without Gray. The Panthers will need to double down on Hibbert to give some help to Kendall, who must move over from his power forward position to play center. That potentially could leave open shots on the perimeter for Georgetown.
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Grandpa
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Post by Grandpa on Feb 24, 2007 1:19:39 GMT -5
Green's giant resumeBy Barker Davis THE WASHINGTON TIMES February 24, 2007 www.washtimes.com/sports/20070224-123706-4645r.htmEntering today's pivotal conference collision between the 12th-ranked Hoyas (21-5, 11-2 Big East) and No. 10 Pittsburgh (24-4, 11-2), the 6-foot-9, 235-pound forward is almost certainly among the favorites to win the league's player of the year.
"I don't care about all that stuff," Green said after recording 19 points, nine rebounds and eight blocks in Georgetown's 58-55 over Villanova in Philadelphia last week. "I'm interested in winning games, not awards."
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lichoya68
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OK YOUNGINS ARE HERE AND ARE VERY VERY GOOD cant wait GO HOYAS
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 24, 2007 10:39:38 GMT -5
WINNING NOT AWARDS YEAH JEFF THE BOOTH IS FILLED THE NATIONAL CBS TV CROWD IS AWAITING THIS IS OUR GAME DAY SORRY ESPN YOU MISSED IT GO HOYAS BEAT PITT AND dont play on wed in ny this could seal that deal which is important go hoyas
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lichoya68
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OK YOUNGINS ARE HERE AND ARE VERY VERY GOOD cant wait GO HOYAS
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 24, 2007 10:46:24 GMT -5
nice article by barker wining not awards and great title green giant(s) resume did that guy write for the hoya? go hoyas go jeff go barker but why didnot you go to the cincy game and the times use and ap report boo hooo boo hooo beat pitt
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Feb 24, 2007 10:48:32 GMT -5
BREAKING EXCLUSIVE - MUST CITE "STPETERSBURGHOYA"
(Washington) - Aaron Gray sneezed when getting on the Pitt team bus at their hotel in Arlington, Virginia at approximately 10:30am this morning. Big East medical expert Tom Crean has diagnosed the entire Pitt team with the flu. Gray will start as planned in this afternoon's game against Georgetown (AP - 10, Coaches - 35) - but Crean said "They certainly have every excuse, if they don't win."
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Post by williambraskyiii on Feb 24, 2007 11:04:48 GMT -5
"Down here, it's our time. It's our time down here!"
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lichoya68
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OK YOUNGINS ARE HERE AND ARE VERY VERY GOOD cant wait GO HOYAS
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 24, 2007 11:06:02 GMT -5
BUT they stopped at georgetown hospital where the guy who invented the hpv vaccine is located and they squezzed them in for special pregame flu treatment SOOOOOOO no freaking excuses dr. crean NO EXCUSES AND I HOPE GRAY PLAYS GO ROY BE MAD MAD MAD ITS FEBRUARY AND ITS OUR HOUSE AND OUR TIME AND IF WE WIN WE CANT CANT CANT PLAY ON WED IN THE GARDEN THATS THE STORY.. yeah gu hospital for curing the panthers colds beat pitt ;D
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Post by Locker on Feb 24, 2007 11:25:00 GMT -5
BUT they stopped at georgetown hospital where the guy who invented the hpv vaccine is located and they squezzed them in for special pregame flu treatment SOOOOOOO no freaking excuses dr. crean NO EXCUSES AND I HOPE GRAY PLAYS GO ROY BE MAD MAD MAD ITS FEBRUARY AND ITS OUR HOUSE AND OUR TIME AND IF WE WIN WE CANT CANT CANT PLAY ON WED IN THE GARDEN THATS THE STORY.. yeah gu hospital for curing the panthers colds beat pitt ;D Yeah. YEAH!!!!!
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Post by Highsmith on Feb 24, 2007 11:33:23 GMT -5
2 and a half hours to go and I am already fighting the urge to start pacing..........
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 24, 2007 11:58:37 GMT -5
"Down here, it's our time. It's our time down here!" Yeah, Aaron Gray can go take a ride up Troy's bucket.
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