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Post by dajuan on Feb 15, 2007 10:13:13 GMT -5
It looks like the DePaul students stormed the court after the Blue Demons upset #12 Marquette last night at the All State Arena (it'll always be the Rosemont Horizon to me). sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=270450305I've been thinking for a while, when is it appropriate to storm the court? I think that the DePaul students were not justified in doing it last night - it's not as though DePaul and Marquette are huge rivals, and Marquette is only ranked 12th. Storming the court against a non-top 5 team that's not your rival? I think that's inappropriate. Although it should be noted that the All State Arena is approximately 15 miles from DePaul's campus. So the students probably wanted to get some fun in before the bus ride home. Thoughts?
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Post by FOTP on Feb 15, 2007 10:15:44 GMT -5
I'm ok with it. They're geographic rivals and it was a big win for them. Beating a Top 12 team is a nice accomplishment and if you actually go to Depaul then you need something exciting in your life ;D
Big win for them and it helped us secure that #1 or #2 seed in the Big East. Two game lead now.
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Post by SDHoya on Feb 15, 2007 10:25:09 GMT -5
Umm, we stormed the court when we beat Notre Dame a few years back, when they weren't even ranked. It was a huge win for us, symbolically though, as it rang in the JTIII era. Not saying that DePaul beating Marquette rings in the Wainright era or something, but it is still a big win for a team that has been pretty frustrating for their fans this year.
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Post by dajuan on Feb 15, 2007 10:25:53 GMT -5
... if you actually go to Depaul then you need something exciting in your life ;D To be fair, DePaul is located in a great neighborhood in Chicago. It's not exactly dullsville.
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Post by TX Hoya on Feb 15, 2007 10:25:54 GMT -5
Our victory over Marquette keeps getting de-valued, which I don't like....
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Post by VelvetElvis on Feb 15, 2007 10:28:27 GMT -5
We keep taking care of business and Marquette's slide won't matter.
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Post by hchoya on Feb 15, 2007 10:37:35 GMT -5
I think if you are unranked and you beat a Top 20 team then that justifies a rush. I get upset when teams who are both unranked but are just rivals and when one of the teams win they rush. Not appropriate. The best thing if you are an underdog and playing away and you win and rush the opponents home court, that is something that you never see, wished it happend more often.
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Post by hoya9797 on Feb 15, 2007 10:39:06 GMT -5
It looks like the DePaul students stormed the court after the Blue Demons upset #12 Marquette last night at the All State Arena (it'll always be the Rosemont Horizon to me). sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=270450305I've been thinking for a while, when is it appropriate to storm the court? I think that the DePaul students were not justified in doing it last night - it's not as though DePaul and Marquette are huge rivals, and Marquette is only ranked 12th. Storming the court against a non-top 5 team that's not your rival? I think that's inappropriate. Although it should be noted that the All State Arena is approximately 15 miles from DePaul's campus. So the students probably wanted to get some fun in before the bus ride home. Thoughts? Actually, DePaul and Marquette are big rivals. When I was growing up in Chicago in the pre-MJ era, the DePaul/Marquette, DePaul/ND, DePaul/Dayton, and DePaul/Georgetown games were some of the biggest events in town. I know things aren't quite like they used to be but Marquette is still definitely one of the biggest games of the year for DePaul.
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Post by vcjack on Feb 15, 2007 10:43:22 GMT -5
If DePaul students rushed the court, that would have been even a bigger insult because I'd immagine that about half the stadium was in Marquette gold.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 15, 2007 10:59:17 GMT -5
Agree with 9797. DePaul and Marquette are huge basketball rivals. It's been going on for decades.
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Post by dajuan on Feb 15, 2007 11:30:17 GMT -5
I grew up in Chicago too, and went to a fair number of DePaul basketball games. I never heard anyone say, "Marquette is coming into town." Maybe it's just me. Or maybe it's been a bit one sided, as Marquette has won 25 of the last 30 games. Either way, I do not condone storming the court after beating the #12 team, unless you are a highly disrespected mid-major.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Feb 15, 2007 11:40:21 GMT -5
luckily the hoya fans won't be rushing our home court anytime soon. the Floor in atlanta maybe. but not the verizon center.
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Post by paranoya on Feb 15, 2007 11:49:10 GMT -5
I disagree there are several reasons to storm the court
1) The obvious, beat a top ranked team. The words "top ranked" can vary depending on whether your team is ranked or not. For example an unranked DePaul would probably consider a #12 Marquette team as top ranked where we on the other hand would not since we are getting up there in the rankings ourselves.
2) Beat a rival. The underdog in a rivalry series winning in a somewhat dramatic fashion will cause this pretty easy.
3) A dramatic win. If you win on a last second shot and your teams are roughly equal or your team is perceived as worse I think the adrenaline from the game running over into a court storming celebration is definitely acceptable.
Obviously these overlap sometimes too.
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Post by Bahstin on Feb 15, 2007 12:44:28 GMT -5
There is only 1 reason to storm the court:
You feel like it. Let the students have some fun.
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Post by younghoya32 on Feb 15, 2007 12:45:13 GMT -5
I could have swore I saw DePaul was favored for this game, either way winning your 5th game out of 30 or so against a rival is a reason to storm...
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Post by hifigator on Feb 15, 2007 12:53:11 GMT -5
It looks like the DePaul students stormed the court after the Blue Demons upset #12 Marquette last night at the All State Arena (it'll always be the Rosemont Horizon to me). sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=270450305I've been thinking for a while, when is it appropriate to storm the court? I think that the DePaul students were not justified in doing it last night - it's not as though DePaul and Marquette are huge rivals, and Marquette is only ranked 12th. Storming the court against a non-top 5 team that's not your rival? I think that's inappropriate. Although it should be noted that the All State Arena is approximately 15 miles from DePaul's campus. So the students probably wanted to get some fun in before the bus ride home. Thoughts? That is a big hot topic down here. There are a handful of AD's and Presidents that are vehemently against any sort of storming the court/field. The SEC has instituted a rather harsh fine for the home school whenever it happens. Personally, the fan in me likes to see that type of celebration, but I understand the safety issue as well. Florida under Jeremy Foley's leadership, has about the tightest security of anyone. No one storms our court or field ever. Is is that simple. But just a few years back we were the target of such. For a couple of times, anytime anyone would beat us, they would storm their field and tear downt he goalposts. I remember thinking who are these guys kidding? I mean we really aren't that good, certainly not to justify celebrating a goalpost game. I'm torn on the overall issue, but in any case it really should be reserved for a very special game.
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Post by hoya9797 on Feb 15, 2007 13:11:30 GMT -5
I grew up in Chicago too, and went to a fair number of DePaul basketball games. I never heard anyone say, "Marquette is coming into town." Maybe it's just me. Or maybe it's been a bit one sided, as Marquette has won 25 of the last 30 games. Either way, I do not condone storming the court after beating the #12 team, unless you are a highly disrespected mid-major. I guess it depends when you were going to DePaul games. My dad and I went to almost every home game from the early '80s until I left town for college in the early '90s and I can tell you that the Marquette game (along with ND) was always one of the two biggest rivalry games of the year. It was always sold out and was a huge deal for DePaul fans. When the Bulls started to get really good in the early '90s, the buzz for DePaul pretty much died and so these games that were once a really big deal on the local sports scene became very minor. But, for the few DePaul fans still exist, the Marquette game will always be a big deal.
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Post by vcjack on Feb 15, 2007 13:15:48 GMT -5
I moved from New York to Chicago during the mid 90's and there really wasn't any enthusiasm for DePaul. Perhaps it was because the Bulls were doing so well that the city didn't need a college team to rally for. Nowadays, I think the Chicago media is more partial to schools U of I and UIC before DePaul, but perhaps Wainwright can change things
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Post by hoya9797 on Feb 15, 2007 13:24:39 GMT -5
Before MJ came and the Bulls got good, DePaul was the biggest game in town. The Horizon used to sell out for almost every game and their games were broadcast all over the country on WGN. They were huge. Then Coach Ray retired, Joey pulled and Esh, and it all started to crumble. The last really good team that DePaul had was in 1987 which was right when the Bulls started to challenge Detroit and this town became infatuated with professional hoops. There is no buzz about DePaul around town and Illinois seems to have filled the void left by the Bulls. DePaul could recapture some attention with a good team but I think being in the Big East and playing a bunch of teams that have no connection to this region is going to be a problem. It will be a long time before people here care much about seeing UConn or Syracuse.
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Feb 15, 2007 13:36:16 GMT -5
To eliminate any danger associated with storming the court, as well as make it easier for the paying fan to celebrate post-win, I propose that the winning team storm the stands to celebrate with the fans.
Not only is this safer, but it allows toddlers and the elderly the chance to enjoy the thrill of a big win like the rest of us. All in favor . . .
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