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Post by hifigator on Feb 1, 2007 21:56:55 GMT -5
I don't want to interfere with you guys' fun, but I must add one more comment. In an ironic twist, you outscored SJ by exactly 52-20 after I tuned in to watch. 52-20 has a special place in my heart too. Karma ? Maybe ... in any case, congrats on a very nice road win and way to fight back after a lackluster start.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Feb 1, 2007 22:04:39 GMT -5
Wonder if the NY papers will note how Carnesecca left the building with a minute or so left. When the Redmen are good, the NY press loves them, when they're not, they catch heat.
Expect the latter Friday morning.
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Post by 1984alloveragain on Feb 1, 2007 22:11:16 GMT -5
thanks hoyainspirit...
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Post by wildhoya on Feb 1, 2007 23:06:01 GMT -5
camille www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/01/AR2007020101911.html"Eight players scored for Georgetown, including senior reserve Sead Dizdarevic, whose three-pointer in the final minute (his first points of the season) caused his teammates on the bench to leap to their feet." "Thompson was asked after the game if the way the Hoyas moved the ball in the second half was "as good as it can get." "I don't know if I'll ever going to be ready to say yes to that," Thompson said with a smile. "But it was pretty good. It started at the other end, it started with our defensive intensity, it started with us running down loose balls and getting rebounds. And that just carried over into an easy flow and hardness we had at the offensive end."
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Feb 1, 2007 23:16:58 GMT -5
My two favorite comments from the Johnnies board: It looks like the Globetrotters vs the Washington Generals out there; it went bad faster than Hellman's in the Sahara. Reminds me of a game in Patrick's first year at the Garden.
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Post by 1984alloveragain on Feb 1, 2007 23:26:17 GMT -5
How about the guy who said "it's not them, it's US", and "the hated hoyas didn't win it, we lost it"---- talk about rosie o'donnel glasses.... the HOYAS made that dude fly over the coo coo's nest!!
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Post by Loyal Hoya on Feb 1, 2007 23:27:30 GMT -5
I just got home from the game. My seat was next to a bunch of St. John's season ticket holders, but they seemed like pretty good guys. It's hard to hold a grudge against a guy who sells you mid-court ticket for 50% of face. It's even harder to hold a grudge against him when you learn that he has had St. John's season tickets for 40 years!
I thought we looked pretty bad during the first 15 minutes. The defense was pretty lackluster [Was that Roy who was (not) guarding Lamont Hamilton?] , and we did not seem to be executing the offense at all. The off-the-ball movement was slow, and I thought we were taking poor shots when we did not need to take them (i.e. early in the shot clock). Most disturbing, we were turning the ball over again. I felt pretty lucky to be down by one at halftime.
Obviously, the defensive intensity and the offensive execution picked up at the end of the first half and during the second half!! When I got home from the game, I was surprised to see that we had 8 turnovers in each half. Were most of 2nd half's TO's in garbage time?
I thought Jessie Sapp had a nice game. I loved the move at the end of the half to hit the three, and he had a great back door assist to DeJuan. I hope he enjoyed his homecoming here in the Big Apple.
Jeff Green kept us in the game in the first half and had great game. 24 points, 8 rebounds, and 4 assists!!
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 2, 2007 0:12:31 GMT -5
I'd also like to echo LoyalHoya's comments about SJU fans. The ones seated next to me and in front of me also were pretty friendly, and one even gave me a high five when Rivers found Jeff on a pretty feed for a fast break dunk in the 2nd. They complemented the Hoyas on several occassions as well. Jeff saved us the first 10 minutes. We've been getting on him all year for not being aggressive enough and looking for his own shot. Well, tonight he did. And that's what he can bring to the table. Just a great performance. Down 10 in the first half, Summers' 3 was a huge shot. If the lead gets any bigger there, we could have been in deep trouble. And of course, Wallace again had a big hand in changing the momentum (a 3 late in the 1st half and the first 6 points in the second half... the last 2 minutes of the 1st half and first 2 minutes of the 2nd half are quickly becoming "J-Wal Time"). But Sapp's step-back 3 under duress to close the first half was the shot that broke the camel's back. The entire SJU crowd, student section and team looked completely deflated after that bucket. Ewing had another solid effort. Hard to believe this is the same guy that in November was a walking turnover/foul waiting to happen. He's playing like a poised veteran (minus one wild elbow after a board that could have warranted a suspension had he connected with anybody), and one of the highlights of the night was his hustle putback in traffic when we were up 20 with 5 minutes to go. He goes hard no matter what the score/situation is. Love to see that. Speaking of hustle: after struggling in the first 10 minutes to get any kind of rebounding or loose ball, we dominated the boards and got every loose ball thereafter. I don't know what III said in the huddle, but obviously he got the message across. We seemed a step quicker after seeming extremely sluggish early. I thought Roy did a good job defensively, especially altering shots. SJU couldn't even touch the rim in the first 4-5 mins. of the second half, and that had a lot to do with Roy. He still missed a bunch of gimmes near the hoop though. Finish strong in traffic! Nice turnout by the Hoya faithful tonight. Very vocal tonight after the slow start, and the MSG ushers even had to come over and tell our section of Hoya fans to sit down. I asked him whether or not the 19-0 run that we were on at the moment had anything to do with that. I didn't get a response. Ultimately, we got the five games that we needed. Credit this team for putting away teams convincingly and avoiding the trap-games. A lot of other teams haven't been as fortunate. Oh, and Sead hit a 3. My night is officially complete.
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Post by bubbrubbhoya on Feb 2, 2007 1:02:53 GMT -5
I don't want to interfere with you guys' fun, but I must add one more comment. In an ironic twist, you outscored SJ by exactly 52-20 after I tuned in to watch. 52-20 has a special place in my heart too. Karma ? Maybe ... in any case, congrats on a very nice road win and way to fight back after a lackluster start. I know no one else will say it, but good viewing hifi. I have no clue why you're on this board at all, and I hope you never mention Florida on this board again, but there's enough good will to go around after that second half. That said, this game was 100% won by the HOYAS, not some schwag gators fan. I was at the game...the ticket agent at the box office gave us student price on end-court seats and we had 8 Hoyas with a section to ourselves...it was awesome! (Everything following excludes the first 18 minutes) Jeff was incredible tonight; his shot was great, and he had some really great moves as well. Sapp's fake-pass and drive to the hoop in the second half was awesome...probably the second best part of the game outside of Sead's shot (woo woooo!). Sapp really showed up tonight. Speaking of...Rainmaker was incredible in the 1st to 2nd half area; he really set the tone for the domination that was the 2nd half. I guess that what tonight proves is that when a team plays well above their potential for a half (Johnnies in the 1st), then the law of averages will catch up at some point...anyone else notice how they couldn't miss from 3 in the 1st but couldn't buy a trey in the 2nd? I thought it was sweet.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Feb 2, 2007 1:34:54 GMT -5
Just a quick one to say:
-- nice win HOYAS! -- way to come back from an early downer! -- JEFF: AWESOME GAME!!!!!
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Post by HoyaSpirit on Feb 2, 2007 3:22:37 GMT -5
Sweet game - that was a clinic from the 18 minute mark on.
The only think I don't understand is why jt3 doesn't play Macklin a lot of minutes in a blowout, which it was with 12 minutes left, and yet macklin only played a fairly small amount. That kid has high potential and needs more minutes to develop. Why not rest Green and Hib more, and give the kid a lot of minutes. If for some reason the game gets a little narrower, you can take him out. But the minutes he did play we didn't lose any ground. But jt3 took him out and put Hib back in, and then did not return him to the game until there were only a couple minutes left. And those last two minutes are not good development minutes because the game is usually sloppy by then. To a lesser degree the same is true of Tyler, though he doesn't have the massive upside that Mac has. And we are really going to need Mac to be developed if Hib or Jeff get in foul trouble, or injured. And finally, I'm not a Spann fan but why not give the kid 5 minutes of pt at the end instead of only 2. I'm not one who thinks he should play much at all, but in a blowout - why not more than 2 mins in a 20 point blowout.
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Post by HoyaSpirit on Feb 2, 2007 3:28:23 GMT -5
By the way, is it me or did Majerus say several times that we did not have a signature win and completely missed the fact we destroyed ND in a blowout. Does ESPN not have enough money to pay for a statistician to be looking at stuff like that.
The other odd thing was it wasn't until we reached the 19-0 mark that they announced we had a run of that size going. I was thinking to myself - that must be 14-0, that must be 16-0 - I wonder why they're not saying anything (maybe I missed a sj shot). A team going on even a 12-0 run is rather large, and you think they'd be all over it by the 14-0 stage of it.
I like Majerus overall though and rate him highly.
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Post by kghoya on Feb 2, 2007 3:42:43 GMT -5
i like how majerus tried to give pitt a quality win for their win at auburn...uh how about the hoyas with the win at vandy?
getting back to the st johns fans with the high fives after a green dunk...if anybody ever sees me displaying similar actions at the verizon center for an opposing players dunk...go ahead and knee me in the groin
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Feb 2, 2007 6:36:39 GMT -5
i was ready to come on the board and trash the team for their lackluster effort the first 15-17 minutes of the game. jeff and jon deserve a lot of credit for keeping us in the game when we clearly were off as a team. that was one of the most dominant runs i've seen from the hoyas since the similar run against pitt in the '89 BET. great play at both ends. sapp hit a couple of crazy shots. green was aggressive and scoring at will. wallace was huge with the 3's and drives to the basket. roy finally decided to block some shots and rebound. everyone contributed and helped bury sju. STILL TOO MANY TO'S THOUGH. great win and a great night overall. hoyas win, duke loses, and michigan gets donovan warren!
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Post by hoyainspirit on Feb 2, 2007 7:19:46 GMT -5
that was one of the most dominant runs i've seen from the hoyas since the similar run against pitt in the '89 BET. Wait until you see the MASN classic game against the Johnnies later this month.
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Post by HoyaSC on Feb 2, 2007 7:22:31 GMT -5
I'm beginning to wonder if our defensive intensity isn't the problem early in these last several games.... specifically perimeter defense. DePaul, Cincy, and now SJU were all unconscious at the start of our games. Can't be a coincidence.
Once we start locking them down, our offensive efficiency takes over and we pull away. Hope we can come out strong on Louisville from the start. With the better competition down the stretch, we don't need to be spotting teams any points at the start.
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Post by Gold Coast Hoya on Feb 2, 2007 8:17:09 GMT -5
I agree with most of the comments, we sure did play well in the 2nd half but there are still issues. In the first half it looked like the team had never practiced against a zone. There was absolutely no dribble penetration, and also no flashing a man to the high post for a pass. We got away with a poor half against SJ but come tournament time it will be a different story because the competition will be so much better than SJ. This team would be a real contender to go all the way with a quick penetrating guard. I watched the Duke/Virginia game and was really impressed with Virginia's guards. I wish we had either one in our backcourt.
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Post by DoubleOhHoya on Feb 2, 2007 9:23:42 GMT -5
By the way, is it me or did Majerus say several times that we did not have a signature win and completely missed the fact we destroyed ND in a blowout. Rediculous. He actually thinks we shouldn't be ranked. Too bad for him, I think this one puts us over the top for next week. Completely dismantling those guys on the road should get us in.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Feb 2, 2007 9:23:48 GMT -5
On their board, in a thread called "Positive from MSG last night,"
"G`town can come play at Msg whenever they want. Their female fans are the best in the conference. Hotties all over the place. "
found that interesting. Had a couple of smilies in there so not sure if he was joking. Anybody who was there offer an opinion?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2007 9:27:33 GMT -5
By the way, is it me or did Majerus say several times that we did not have a signature win and completely missed the fact we destroyed ND in a blowout. Does ESPN not have enough money to pay for a statistician to be looking at stuff like that. The other odd thing was it wasn't until we reached the 19-0 mark that they announced we had a run of that size going. I was thinking to myself - that must be 14-0, that must be 16-0 - I wonder why they're not saying anything (maybe I missed a sj shot). A team going on even a 12-0 run is rather large, and you think they'd be all over it by the 14-0 stage of it. I like Majerus overall though and rate him highly. I did like that the play-by-play guy kinda called Rick out on that with a "Well, I know we don't have their schedule in front of them, but what's Pitt's signature win? Should they be ranked?" Majerus backed down a bit at that point. As for the run, I think because it bracketed halftime, it didn't seem like a 19-0 run, so no one really took a close look at it until it was larger.
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