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Post by redskins12820 on Nov 13, 2006 22:07:47 GMT -5
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Post by FairfaxHoya on Nov 13, 2006 22:19:06 GMT -5
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FLHoya
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Post by FLHoya on Nov 13, 2006 22:35:15 GMT -5
I think SI.com must have used the same editors that worked on the delivery menu for Canal Express.
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doublehoya
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Post by doublehoya on Nov 13, 2006 22:37:15 GMT -5
Aril?
Emerson?
Sappy?
Patrick Ewing Jar?
WTF???
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Post by hoyaLS05 on Nov 13, 2006 22:56:05 GMT -5
I refuse to take seriously the opinion of someone who either doesn't have the time or lacks the common sense to take one minute on guhoyas.com to check the spelling of a few names. If he doesn't know their names, I refuse to believe he knows what they do or do not bring to the table basketball-wise.
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Post by NickSixers on Nov 13, 2006 23:10:47 GMT -5
Is his utter lack of editing and proof reading his M.O., or is he just a poor, laughably lazy hack writer? You do all know he's a Duke grad and protege of John (Junior) Feinstein, right?
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Post by ][-][ 0 `/ /-\ 5 on Nov 13, 2006 23:27:22 GMT -5
Posted this in the wrong thread... "Next year's class will include one of the nation's top point guards (6-foot local product Chris Wright), but by then Hibbert will most likely be wearing an NBA uniform." Uh no. "Since we all know you win in college hoops with good guard play, this is no small concern." Overused and wrong. Referring to Jeff - "He is all substance and little flash, which means "he may be the best player in the country who will never be shown on Sports Center this season." Granted he does recognize Jeff as being awesome, I wouldn't go as far as saying he is without flash(see: dunk against Hartford, 2 days ago) Pete Aril, Marc Emerson, Jessie Sappy, Patrick Ewing Jar... Are these nicknames or just gross misspellings? "As long as the Hoyas are able to take care of the ball, I see them finishing no worse than third in the conference behind Pittsburgh and Syracuse. They'll be a shoo-in for the NCAA tournament, but unless they really improve I think they'll be hard-pressed to reach the Sweet 16." Syracuse? Lucky to make sweet 16? Whawhahwha?! I frankly went to Georgetown expecting to be under whelmed" We are number 8 in the nation. How can you not be under whelmed and say theres a good chance we won't crack the sweet 16? I think he should have collaborated with Winn to at least learn something about us.  |
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Post by sweetness on Nov 13, 2006 23:34:32 GMT -5
Terrible job by Davis....as punishment he should have to watch repeated viewings of Gtown running the backdoor down the throat of his beloved Dookies last year.
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Post by RDF on Nov 14, 2006 2:51:46 GMT -5
Well the typos are a bit shaky considering it's a major network/media outlet but Seth Davis did a nice job and any pub is good for Hoyas---he's also a very well informed follower of CBB and he and Bilas aren't Duke homers--they love the sport and don't just hype Duke beyond belief.
Have to be open minded and not think anyone who doesn't have Hoyas winning it all is a basher or anti GU--it's just their take and I'll admit I don't see this team being as good as many until Wright/Freeman reach campus--you need that balance and ability to score when offense isn't working and Wright/Freeman are type of backcourt who will open things up for our frontcourt and make things happen when we need to hit shots--they are also type of backcourt guys who will allow GU to go more uptempo with the system then just limited to halfcourt.
I'm just interested that III/GU program have opened up their doors to Bilas and Davis and think it's a smart thing to do in today's era--more talking heads that are on friendly terms with GU can only be a good thing/help the program.
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HoyaFanNY
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Nov 14, 2006 6:50:08 GMT -5
davis is a complete fraud. i was searching the SI site for an email address so i could tell him what an idiot he is but i didn't find one. if someone gets his email please provide it. he deserves the ridicule for not taking the time to spell names correctly.
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Post by chinatownfanclub on Nov 14, 2006 10:56:16 GMT -5
I didn't see too much wrong with his analysis. Frankly, I agree with most of it. Although I'm a little unsure of who this "Pete Aril" character is?
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 14, 2006 11:26:02 GMT -5
it's just their take and I'll admit I don't see this team being as good as many until Wright/Freeman reach campus--you need that balance and ability to score when offense isn't working and Wright/Freeman are type of backcourt who will open things up for our frontcourt and make things happen when we need to hit shots--they are also type of backcourt guys who will allow GU to go more uptempo with the system then just limited to halfcourt. Wait 'til next year already, RDF? |
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Post by williambraskyiii on Nov 14, 2006 11:43:22 GMT -5
I have to agree with SF on this one RDF...let's not write off this Hoyas team yet man - we are 8th in the nation...This is AC dammit! You know who this is!!!
anyway, i can only surmise that Pete Aril is some iteration of Pete Carril...he doesnt play for the Hoyas, but maybe Seth Davis was hitting some whippets when he wrote this article.
But, I will agree with RDF on one thing - Seth Davis knows college hoops...and he is not a Duke homer...he picked Gtown to go to the Final 4 last year as a sleeper...perhaps he just thinks AC, BB and DO's production will not be easily replaced on this year's squad...and he may be right, but please people, let's not bash quality writers just beause they have questions about GTown's personnel...If they bring a thoughtful opinion to the table, you need to respect them...that is how i feel about SD aside from this abortion of an article with these typos.
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Post by Eurostar on Nov 14, 2006 11:59:56 GMT -5
decent article, poor editing. no worse than 3rd in the big east would be alright with me. im getting tired of all these predictions though. lets just play ball.
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Post by mapei on Nov 14, 2006 12:14:47 GMT -5
Yeah, and it's highly unlikely we'll be "#8 in the country" when the next poll comes out. If you believe we will, you didn't see Saturday's game. I think Davis's analysis is pretty good, though sloppy in the writing. We're good but not great until we earn it. Nothing wrong with saying so in my book.
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Post by chinatownfanclub on Nov 14, 2006 12:16:10 GMT -5
decent article, poor editing. no worse than 3rd in the big east would be alright with me. im getting tired of all these predictions though. lets just play ball. Pete Arril is not Pete Carroll??? |
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 14, 2006 12:37:16 GMT -5
Yeah, and it's highly unlikely we'll be "#8 in the country" when the next poll comes out. If you believe we will, you didn't see Saturday's game. I think Davis's analysis is pretty good, though sloppy in the writing. We're good but not great until we earn it. Nothing wrong with saying so in my book. sheesh rather pessimistic. I agree that if we play like we did it's highly unlikely that we'll be rnaked #8 but i don't know why you're assuming we will. |
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Post by RDF on Nov 14, 2006 12:41:11 GMT -5
it's just their take and I'll admit I don't see this team being as good as many until Wright/Freeman reach campus--you need that balance and ability to score when offense isn't working and Wright/Freeman are type of backcourt who will open things up for our frontcourt and make things happen when we need to hit shots--they are also type of backcourt guys who will allow GU to go more uptempo with the system then just limited to halfcourt. Wait 'til next year already, RDF? I'm not saying this year's team will be awful, but I don't see it as a legit threat for Final Four and National Title until they get guards who can be counted on and make plays. Great players make plays--and want the rock---which will be a change when Wright/Freeman come to Hilltop--you won't have to worry about someone wanting to step up--these guys will--and better be allowed to do so. This is the one thing I want to see from III and am anxious to see tomorrow-how he adjusts to having more talent/depth and how he deploys it. You can't coach the same style with more talent--you don't need to limit possessions, you need to exploit matchups to win--so against a team with more talent, you play a more traditional "III-Town" offense, but against overmatched teams, run them out of the gym and allow the players more freedom to play. Talent wins the majority of games and they have to be allowed to play--not "run the system" at all costs. It's not a criticism of III--it's a thing I'm looking for and from all sounds he let the guys run more--and next year I'm guessing we'll see more freedom--and more uptempo offense due to having elite caliber perimeter talent. Right now, GU has role players--and I am a huge fan of those players--but not one is a big time talent--Wright and Freeman are and I think you'll see program take that step that many predict this year. I think we'll see a fine Hoya team, but I'm not one who sees this team as a top 10 program yet--think they are top 20 and anything goes in Postseason play for opening 2 rounds and who knows about upsets, etc....but if you were to ask which team I think will be more reflective of the praise/spotlight we're seeing team receiving now-I'd say next year's team and future teams with Wright/Freeman added to mix--you can do so much more with big time perimeter players in this offense and it's going to open up the frontcourt for more favorable matchups/freedom as well. |
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Post by hoyasexy on Nov 14, 2006 12:41:21 GMT -5
Yeah, and it's highly unlikely we'll be "#8 in the country" when the next poll comes out. If you believe we will, you didn't see Saturday's game. I think Davis's analysis is pretty good, though sloppy in the writing. We're good but not great until we earn it. Nothing wrong with saying so in my book. The most recent polls reflect Saturday's game, and our position is unchanged in each poll. Although I will agree with you that we didn't play like the 8th best team in the country, the polls don't necessarily care about that - they only care whether a team wins. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 14, 2006 13:11:17 GMT -5
RDF,
I have a couple of questions:
1) Are we writing off DaJuan Summers as a big time perimeter talent? He's a freshman and seemed like he had a decent enough game for limited minutes and maybe a bit of gome one jitters. I agree that our big time talent is interior and that makes it hard for me to think Final Four just yet, but just imagine this in a few games...
...Either Tyler, Jessie or Marc emerge as a legit 35-40% 3 PT shooter to complement Jon...
...DaJuan emerges as the offensive talent he is...
...the defense improves, especially with the three being played by a taller player and Macklin's introduction to the rotation.
Tell me that can't work.
2) If we are saying that Summers and Macklin (and Rivers) won't help much as a frosh, why all the fuss over Chris Wright and Austin Freeman (and Omar) as frosh? "Next year" could be a mantra, but really, next year may be starting a whole lot of inexperience. I know what Roy and Jeff have said, but we'll see how the season goes before expecting them back.
Chris and Austin are anticipated, and rightfully so. But let's not forget DaJuan and Mack, as a group, were as highly rated. And there's a decent chance that at least one of the super duo doesn't start next year.
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