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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Jul 8, 2006 21:01:20 GMT -5
Moving ahead to the Tombs game, it was basically unwatchable for the simple reason that the refs were allergic to plastic and blew their whistles every possession of the game. They should put some gum in their whistles next week. Because of that, there was no real flow and Tombs couldn't really gel.
More than that, the Tombs has a new coach, and he, for reasons unbeknownst to most anyone in the building, decided that he would "coach" Summers and Macklin at the beginning of the game instead of playing them ahead of Bisquick and Clown #2 on the squad. Unfortunately, it probably inhibited the squad from getting off on the right foot. They never got off on any foot and proceeded to lose handily.
Wallace - He looked good in warmups and showed more interest in his midrange game. There wasn't anything too notable one way or the other in Wallace's performance except for my inability to explain how he picked up 6 fouls. When he "fouled out," I had him down for 4 fouls, and I was actually keeping track. Anyway, he was 3-5 from 2 point range and 0-2 from behind the arc. He was also 2-2 from the line, for a total of 8 points.
Rivers -- He played off the ball mostly until Wallace fouled out and never seemed to get in the flow of things. I had seen some tape of him being more aggressive on the glass, and that didn't come through today. I have him down as 2-5 from 2 point range, 0-3 behind the arc, and 0-2 from the line. His total is 4 points. He also committed roughly 4 turnovers, mostly having to do with a slippery floor.
His shooting is definitely off, as he seems to push the ball more than anything else. I don't think it is an issue of confidence, as a confident shooter wouldn't make shots with his technique. If there is a Tom Umanski of shooting videos, buy it and watch it.
That said, he did impress defensively and showed his appreciation of the tenets of the game in that facet. So, the Ray Reed conceptualization may not be a bad one, ignoring other things, like River's passing ability. He showed this ability in a "if you blinked, you missed it" assist to Macklin for a tomahawk jam in a halfcourt set.
Macklin -- There have been some good comments already about him, but I think people are overreacting if they think he can't/won't contribute. Before getting to my breakdown, I have him down as 2-5 from te floor and 1-5 from the line, for a total of 5 points. Despite the ugliness, he looks the part and is a fun player to watch because it is pretty when his game comes together.
I noted on my sheet of paper three instances in which his help defense led to positive results, such as a turnover. In two other instances, he swatted shots nicely. This was an area of his game that didn't come through positively in the all-star games, so it was nice to see him allay some of my fears about his defensive prowess.
He will need to add some strength and bulk so he can do more in this area and, also, become more of a post presence on the offensive end.
He'll need to sit down with Rivers in front of the Tom Umanski of Shooting videos because he also pushes his shot a bit and doesn't shoot with one hand either. His misses were all over the place and mostly ugly from the line, leading to noticeable gasps in the crowd.
So, my suggestion is to get to know Altagracia and Ripai in Leo's and Tyler Crawford in the weight room. At the same time, hang out with Rivers and the Umanski shooting videos.
In Macklin's favor, he is very efficient when he scores. There's no wasted motion, and the ball is at the goal for a nice flush. He did show good things on the glass, but he's going to need to bulk up a bit so that part of his game shines through in major conference games.
So, don't write him off. At the same time, why do we need to write him in anyway? We have Jeff Green and Roy Hibbert, so he wasn't going to need to start regardless of how good he is.
Summers -- He was 4-7 from 2 point range and 1-4 from behind the arc. He was also 5-9 from the line. So, he finished with a team-high 16 points. I had only seen him in an AAU venue before, and this game was helpful to me in terms of assessing him more successfully.
One of his field goals was a smashmouth dunk in someone's face. Another attempt led to Tyler Crawford laying him out and flat on his face. Fortunately for all involved, Dajuan went on to sink both free throws, and Tyler showed good sportsmanship by making sure he was ok. I overheard one person in the crowd exclaiming, "This is what practice is going to be like this year." Expect this bunch to be a bit more physical than what we've seen in the first 2 years of JT3.
In terms of his weaknesses, I think he still needs to work on his crossover dribble. He often loses the handle when he tries to crossover, and it also looks awkward because he bends and contorts his body to the point where he doesn't look able to do much even if the move is executed. That said, his handling ability is still above average considering he's a solid 6'8" or 6'9".
I'd also like to see him work on his perimeter shooting. He's reportedly shot well in other venues, but I haven't seen him shoot well from the perimeter in the two contests I've watched him in. He'll also increase his value by being more aggressive in all aspects of the game.
What struck me most about his performance is that he tried to step it up in the absence of Wallace, although the officiating and situation did not allow him to overcome the insurmountable deficit.
There's a lot to anticipate from this player because it will come together for him at some point. That said, we know that we don't need it to come together for him right now because Jeff, Roy, and, to a certain extent, Wallace are the on-the-court leaders for us. Summers will be ready to play immediately and has an outside shot at starting.
Crawford -- He was a pleasant surprise. He was 2-2 from behind the arc and 4-5 from the line for a total of 10 points in limited action. His squad is so deep that the coach went to a "line change" substitution pattern, so they never milked Tyler's hot hand in the early goings. Once he was subbed in and out, he was never a focal point again. Much to the delight of a certain HB fan, he has been in the weight room.
Notable absences in today's KL action: Trajan Langdon, Tay Spann, Thornton, Jeff Green, and the Ravenous Beast
I stayed after the Tombs game for a half of the Bethesda Magic vs. Myers & Alterman contest. M&A features Marc Egerson, who looks to have slimmed down a bit. He did a good job in the first half and scored at least 5 points by the time I stopped scoring in the middle of the first half. Unfortunately for him, the GMU players dominate the action. They do a good job and should compete for the league title. Particularly impressive was GMU frosh Andre Smith, who is a PG. He showed good range on his jumper and quickness.
I skipped out before the Clyde's game due to the hour, so I missed Sapp, if he indeed was playing. I'll probably skip tomorrow's games due to the World Cup and the fact that the officiating is ruining the games.
I'm going to try and come through with more of a "big picture" analysis later on or tomorrow. Macklin-AKD comparisons are good in some sense, although Macklin is definitely AKD++++. More later or tomorrow...
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Post by FLHoya on Jul 8, 2006 23:39:57 GMT -5
A few things:
First of all, throw this game out the window, cover it with your compost heap, give it to the dog as a play toy, maybe run it over with the Honda CRV you parked on the McDonough tennis courts. It was ugly, badly officiated, and McD has much more uncomfortable seats than I ever remembered. But I heard some rave reviews about those squeeze bottles of--basically--unfrozen Freeze Pop liquid they're selling at the concession stand.
True story: I overheard three girls who were visting the college where I formerly attended graduate school* for pre-orientation yesterday having a conversation in the store. This conversation consisted of them staring intently at the dark greenish-colored liquid in a bottle of Powerade and saying "Oooooooh...that's such a pretty color."
(*I've decided I don't feel like calling it by the reverse of its initials any more. I was thinking of a symbol, a la the Artist Formerly Known as Prince but then that symbol and then Prince again. How's the Apple from the NIT logo work for you guys?)
My point is--this is NOT the game from which you really wanna judge ANYTHING about the relative merits/futures of any of the participants. Between the frantic pace, bad officiating, slippery surface, and Australian-Rules-Football-Inspired Offensive and Defensive sets, I'd give the whole thing a pass.
Other than to say, in general, that though the "white team" had some impressive players on the team, and Jeff Green wasn't there, it's a little disconcerting to see The Tombs get a royal beatdown like in the second half (they were up 1 at the break but lost by about 20).
I think everyone else got the big (and small and medium sized) points down pretty well. I dont really disagree with anything I read. A few add-ons:
1. Jeremiah Rivers has a bit too much of a flare for the dramatic right now. Seemed like darn near every pass was a no-looker or a bullet pass. If Jersey had him for 4 TOs I'd say that's too low, but what do I know. Just seemed like he was constantly having passes dropped (too fast) or bounce off players (who werent ready or anticipating). For these reasons, I found it entirely appropriate that his Kenner League jersey number is the same as Michael Vick's. I want to see him throughout the summer and watch more "normal" games to see how the court vision works itself out. I agree he seems more of a pass and defend type than a scorer. And he is much bigger than I pictured.
2. There seems to be some intent on Dajuan and The Vern's part to get each other involved, almost to a fault. They really were trying to work some high-low stuff, some feeds from the post to cutters, things like that. But a lot of it was thrown off by bad handling, scrum defense, traffic in the lane, slips, you name it.
3. The second thing I wrote on my folded up legal pad sheet was "poor JW needs help". He was overburdened early on trying to carry the team (the first thing I wrote: "Weingarten!!") and stay upright...quite a few of the Tombs early baskets came off of recoveries from awkward blocked shots and slips...I concluded from this that every time a GTown guard falls down with the ball during a game next year, they're seconds away from a layup. Jonathan did have a nice crossover dribble to a midrange J.
4. I do want to say that I liked what I saw from Dajuan Summers today. Real complete set of tools there**. RBHoya has made a phenomenal choice for his heterosexual man crush on this year's team. I have terrible taste in these matters (see: Reed, Ray and Hall, Drew).
(**I could say the same thing about Maryland's freshman class...well, at least Beavis. Thank you, I'll be here all summer.)
5. Seriously, what's with the weak crotch thrust/"Lean Back" thing. Beavis Vazquez...combining the best of Michael Jackson and Fat Joe since 2006.
I'm gonna try this whole thing over again tomorrow for the 2 "late" games and see what happens.
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Post by CAHoya07 on Jul 9, 2006 3:26:28 GMT -5
Thanks for the reality check that I think we all needed, FL. Only one game, and an ugly one to boot. We can get an idea about things from Kenner League games, but we shouldn't really jump to conclusions about players, especially after the very first game.
Although it is pretty fun to do it, I admit.
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Post by majic on Jul 10, 2006 8:48:29 GMT -5
Rivers is #7, Summers #11, and Macklin #13 (or #14?) on the Tombs team. Jeff was not there as he is at the Nike camp as a counselor along with Roy. You have to be invited to be a counselor at that camp so it's good for Jeff and Roy and not good news for G'town fans. The NBA power's-that-be obviously are high on both of them and believe that they are seriously draft-worthy.
The Tombs team played better yesterday based on the game accounts from Saturday (I wasn't at the Saturday game). One of the officials yesterday was a Big East regular. It's summer league so they didn't call much of anything except stuff that was truly egregious. The game went into OT which I did not stay for. So someone else please post whether or not the Tombs pulled it out. Patrick II missed a wide open dunk (with his father in attendance) and I felt a little bad for him, but oh well... As usual, there were some big plays, but for the most part it was routine. The freshman looked fine for just arriving and playing.
Rivers pulled up in the second half and Ms. Michael and Coach III came over to check it out. He shook it off, but looked a little limpy thereafter.
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Post by TBird41 on Jul 10, 2006 10:29:25 GMT -5
Tombs pulled it out, with Wallace coming up big in the OT. I have some stats that I'll post later, as well as some thoughts on how everyone played.
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Post by theEDGEfactor on Jul 10, 2006 11:11:46 GMT -5
good feedback from yesterday thanks guys
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Post by MCIGuy on Jul 10, 2006 12:40:32 GMT -5
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Post by TBird41 on Jul 10, 2006 12:49:17 GMT -5
Well, here goes my first attempt at recapping. I kept track of stats, but I'm giving them to you with a cavaet: I'm easily distracted at summer league games, whether its other people's conversations, feeling the need to make some quip or just your run of the mill shiny objects. So these are accurate, but more guessy and more almosty. Anyway, here goes:
Rivers: Rivers finished with 18 pts, 3 assists and a couple of boards on 7-8 of shooting from the floor, including 3-4 from behind the arc. He also went 1-2 from the line. He only had one turnover that I saw, and he was the one bringing the ball up the court for most of the game. Rivers was the dominant player on the floor in the first half, not missing a shot. He also was the only freshman that got to play the entire first half, with Macklin and Summers both sitting for stretches. Rivers looked good this game, distributing (he had about 5+ assists dropped), hitting his shots (though he really does push his shots more than he shoots them. But hey, if they go in, who cares how he does it?). There was a scary moment in the second half where he collided with Summers, banging his knee, which, unlike yesterday, had a knee brace on it. He came up limping and wasn't going at full speed after that. Personally, I think he should have sat down after the collision, since this is a summer league game, but he gutted it out. He was also slipping a lot less today, possibly b/c of the brace.
Macklin: The Ticket continues to show length, defense, rebounding and how raw his game is. He went 3-8 from the floor, including a missed dunk AND a blocked dunk. He also went 4-8 from the line to finish with 10 points to go along with his 5 boards and 3 blocks, including swatting a CUTS player's layup off the backboard to preserve the tie in the final seconds. It was ridiculous. Macklin's still quite raw offensively however: his free throws are either uggggglllyy or going in, he missed 3 hook shots in the post and he dropped a couple of River's "should be assist" passes. Though he did hook up with Rivers on a sick alley oop in the first half on a break. Macklin is going to bring a lot defensively this year, whether through blocks, rebounds or just helping shut down a post guy, but offensively he has a long way to go. He's kind of the reverse Roy, in that the athleticsm is there, just not the skills.
Summers: Summers went 5-8 from the field and 5-6 from the line to finish with 15 points. He missed his only 3 pointer and had a couple of turnovers. The kid looks like he's ready to contribute on both sides of the court, though I only have him with 1 rebound. He also launched a girl fight amongst the guys there about who's player was who's. Basically, when 007 and TQ started arguing over Summers and then somebody called RBHoya a bigamist for having a ton of favorites and it devolved from there until the only girl present put a stop to it by declaring "This conversation needs to stop. I can't handle my guy friends fighting over their basketball player crushes like 8th grade girls". Anyway, Summers looks to be a solid player this year, no matter who's "favorite" he is. He's going to give Ewing a run for his money, I think.
Wallace: JW started out slowly, but turned it on in the second half, including dominating OT with 7 points, including a beautiful NBA range three. He's the only guy left on the squad who has earned the right to take NBA range threes (Ashanti and DJ being the other two from last year) and he continues to show that range. He finished with 9-13 from the floor, 4-4 from behind the arc and 4-4 from behind the line for 26 points. He also collected 3 boards and a couple of assists, and generally looked like one of the best players on the court.
Ewing Jr.: PE2's play so far this summer hasn't exactly been inspiring, but it hasn't been awful either. Plus, it seems to me that the team he's playing on is full of gunners. I think it's probably a bad situation for him, since it seems to cause poor decision making. Plus, his dad was here this weekend, which probably made him feel even more pressure to put up big points, leading to out of control drives and missed threes. Ewing went 4-11 from the floor, including a missed dunk, and a pair of stupid threes. He finished with 12 points after going 4-7 from the line. He took some out of control drives. He also had some really nice drives, some more solid (and unrewarded) cuts and made a lot of hustle plays, finishing with 4 boards, (2 of them offensive) and a nice diving save on another teammates airball. The kid hustles like mad (he was inside going after every offensive board) and had a couple of solid assists. And he has the most nonchalant free throw routine I've ever seen. He gets the ball, takes a step forward so that he's STILL a foot or so behind the line, then shoots it. No dribble, no toe on the line, just get it from the ref, step up (but not far enough) and then shoot. I'm guessing that Pat is going to fill Bowman's role in more ways than one--both in the lineup and as the guy people love to rag on for mental mistakes, being nonchalant etc. Then again, in a more structured environment where he might actually get the ball back after passing it, he could be a solid contributor. My guess is that he brings hustle, rebounding and some nice drives to the team, along with an iffy 3pt shot and some (but not too many) dumb mistakes.
Izzo: He played, he fouled, he sat down.
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Post by theEDGEfactor on Jul 10, 2006 13:43:32 GMT -5
good stuff all around and great to hear about rivers. with mack this year we really dont need alot of points at all from him just some solid D we got jeff hibbs jw and hopefully ewing and summers to carry most of the offensive load
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Post by RDF on Jul 10, 2006 15:45:01 GMT -5
Just want to take time to thank Jersey, FLHoya, MCI, TBird, and everyone else for providing Kenner updates--great to be able to talk Hoya Basketball in July--with actual info on the players--don't care if it is pick up--it's still nice to talk about actual hoops/games/ability of the players.
Thanks again guys!
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Post by theEDGEfactor on Jul 10, 2006 17:00:59 GMT -5
agreed thanks guys the outatowners cant make it down and you deff make up for it for the most part
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Post by RBHoya on Jul 10, 2006 22:52:13 GMT -5
He also launched a girl fight amongst the guys there about who's player was who's. Basically, when 007 and TQ started arguing over Summers and then somebody called RBHoya a bigamist for having a ton of favorites and it devolved from there until the only girl present put a stop to it by declaring "This conversation needs to stop. I can't handle my guy friends fighting over their basketball player crushes like 8th grade girls". Too many? 1. Jeff 1A. DaJuan 1B. J-Wallace Also highly regarded: Crawford, Hibbert, Thornton I wouldn't quite say that's TOO many. By the way, did TQ or 007 get a wall posting from DaJuan on facebook? Hm? No? Oh.... Well then. BTW, dibbs on Free for next year.
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Post by FLHoya on Jul 10, 2006 23:06:18 GMT -5
So these are accurate, but more guessy and more almosty. Wow. Guessy? Almosty? You left out Melty. And Badassnessawesome. Rivers: Rivers finished with 18 pts, 3 assists and a couple of boards on 7-8 of shooting from the floor, including 3-4 from behind the arc. He also went 1-2 from the line. He only had one turnover that I saw, and he was the one bringing the ball up the court for most of the game. Rivers was the dominant player on the floor in the first half, not missing a shot. He also was the only freshman that got to play the entire first half, with Macklin and Summers both sitting for stretches. Rivers looked good this game, distributing (he had about 5+ assists dropped), hitting his shots (though he really does push his shots more than he shoots them. But hey, if they go in, who cares how he does it?). There was a scary moment in the second half where he collided with Summers, banging his knee, which, unlike yesterday, had a knee brace on it. He came up limping and wasn't going at full speed after that. Personally, I think he should have sat down after the collision, since this is a summer league game, but he gutted it out. He was also slipping a lot less today, possibly b/c of the brace. I like that Rivers is getting not only extensive minutes on the court, but also being allowed to run the show. Wallace appears to be handing the reins to Rivers on a number of possessions, and trying to get the kid involved. I made a note that Rivers had 12 of his points within the first 5 1/2 minutes of the game, he was really feeling it on the shot early on but he (obviously) took far fewer shots as the game went on. TBird's stats are pretty close to accurate on Rivers as I recall. He did cut down on the number of "tricky" passes today, and had some nice feeds in transition (Macklin's "blocked" dunk was off a nice bounce pass in transition. He also smartly found a spotted-up Jon Wallace in the waning moments of regulation for a 3 pointer. Also, my short term memory fails me and it pains me I didn't write this down--but what song did they start playing during the awkward silence while Rivers was still on the court injured? Truly awkward moment there, although it was hysterical when he got up and a few people near me started singing whatever song it was. I'm personally wondering whether the brace was a result of him tweaking something the previous day when he slipped all those times. Macklin: The Ticket continues to show length, defense, rebounding and how raw his game is. He went 3-8 from the floor, including a missed dunk AND a blocked dunk. He also went 4-8 from the line to finish with 10 points to go along with his 5 boards and 3 blocks, including swatting a CUTS player's layup off the backboard to preserve the tie in the final seconds. It was ridiculous. Macklin's still quite raw offensively however: his free throws are either uggggglllyy or going in, he missed 3 hook shots in the post and he dropped a couple of River's "should be assist" passes. Though he did hook up with Rivers on a sick alley oop in the first half on a break. Macklin is going to bring a lot defensively this year, whether through blocks, rebounds or just helping shut down a post guy, but offensively he has a long way to go. He's kind of the reverse Roy, in that the athleticsm is there, just not the skills. The block to end regulation was sick (now, to be fair, that dude who was blocked also blew by Wallace on a spin move). He also had a key offensive rebound and drawn foul with about 1:15 to go in regulation. I'd agree with what TBird says. He's raw at this point, and will need work to develop the considerable tools he does have IMO. But he will also certainly contribute in a number of ways, especially defensively, this year. What do you think, like a sane version of Wesley Wilson early on? Is that a worthy comparison? I haven't seen the guy enough to make a judgement. I also have worked hard to purge most of my Wesley Wilson memories. Summers: Summers went 5-8 from the field and 5-6 from the line to finish with 15 points. He missed his only 3 pointer and had a couple of turnovers. The kid looks like he's ready to contribute on both sides of the court, though I only have him with 1 rebound. He also launched a girl fight amongst the guys there about who's player was who's. Basically, when 007 and TQ started arguing over Summers and then somebody called RBHoya a bigamist for having a ton of favorites and it devolved from there until the only girl present put a stop to it by declaring "This conversation needs to stop. I can't handle my guy friends fighting over their basketball player crushes like 8th grade girls". Anyway, Summers looks to be a solid player this year, no matter who's "favorite" he is. He's going to give Ewing a run for his money, I think. RBHoya isn't a Hoya basketball bigamist. He's big, but not a sports bigamist in any sense. He's a Knicks fan for goodness sake, so perhaps he has bad taste in sports relationships, but he's loyal to a fault.* (*I'm a Hawks fan. Which is, roughly, the sports equivalent of being a furry, I think.) 007 refuses to talk about the Knicks these days. Which fits in rather...oh, finish the joke yourselves. I said something about this in the other thread, but I think the intriguing thing about the Ewing-Summers question is that they're going to both present unique skill sets. I would love to see Ewing's athleticism be used in some more up-tempo sets next year, but I'd equally be intrigued by using Summers' size and range to stretch defenses out or out-physical them depending on the matchup. The one thing I always felt gave the 2000-2001 team a huge advantage and really keyed their season was the depth of the bench (a LEGIT 10 deep) and the options and experience available to Craiggers. This team is getting towards that level, where you're going to have key contributors rather than role players coming off the bench and presenting different matchup options. Sometimes last year I felt we let other teams "dictate" the matchups in games. That won't be as much of a problem this time. For the record, I favor Ewing as the starter for the already stated reason of his experience with the system. Wallace: JW started out slowly, but turned it on in the second half, including dominating OT with 7 points, including a beautiful NBA range three. He's the only guy left on the squad who has earned the right to take NBA range threes (Ashanti and DJ being the other two from last year) and he continues to show that range. He finished with 9-13 from the floor, 4-4 from behind the arc and 4-4 from behind the line for 26 points. He also collected 3 boards and a couple of assists, and generally looked like one of the best players on the court. I'm surprised he had that many (I'm almost positive he missed more than 4 shots, but whatever...no wonder you were distracted...I'm freakin' hysterical...screw thinly veiling your brags. ) What I liked about Jon was what I alluded to above--he is (very smartly I think) using the summer league to get exactly what he and the team need from it. He's letting Rivers run the show for long stretches during the regular parts of the game. Meanwhile, Jon uses it as his personal toolbox--the two big things I've seen him working on this summer are a pull-up jumper from the 15 foot range, and some assertive penetration moves through the center of the lane (still a work in progress). During crunch time with the game close however, it was Jon running the show and taking over. I started tracking possessions with about 3 mins to go in regulation. He had a floater (it's...well, the one Jon always does) in the lane with about 3 minutes to go, then a drive and lay-in on the next possession. This is while the game is tied. He got the offensive rebound off of Macklin's missed FT (I referenced this possession above too) a few seconds later. He then took that killer 3 off of Rivers assist. Then he committed an offensive foul. And to be fair got beat on that drive cleaned up by Macklin. But still, 7 points in the final three minutes in essentially a tie game is pretty impressive. Then overtime kicked in. And he took ANOTHER feed from Rivers for a wide open three and drained it. He later (after another TO) hit two technical FTs and got his team's final basket. So 7 more points in overtime. I like. Ewing Jr.: PE2's play so far this summer hasn't exactly been inspiring, but it hasn't been awful either. Plus, it seems to me that the team he's playing on is full of gunners. I think it's probably a bad situation for him, since it seems to cause poor decision making. Plus, his dad was here this weekend, which probably made him feel even more pressure to put up big points, leading to out of control drives and missed threes. Ewing went 4-11 from the floor, including a missed dunk, and a pair of stupid threes. He finished with 12 points after going 4-7 from the line. He took some out of control drives. He also had some really nice drives, some more solid (and unrewarded) cuts and made a lot of hustle plays, finishing with 4 boards, (2 of them offensive) and a nice diving save on another teammates airball. The kid hustles like mad (he was inside going after every offensive board) and had a couple of solid assists. And he has the most nonchalant free throw routine I've ever seen. He gets the ball, takes a step forward so that he's STILL a foot or so behind the line, then shoots it. No dribble, no toe on the line, just get it from the ref, step up (but not far enough) and then shoot. I'm guessing that Pat is going to fill Bowman's role in more ways than one--both in the lineup and as the guy people love to rag on for mental mistakes, being nonchalant etc. Then again, in a more structured environment where he might actually get the ball back after passing it, he could be a solid contributor. My guess is that he brings hustle, rebounding and some nice drives to the team, along with an iffy 3pt shot and some (but not too many) dumb mistakes. Yeah, that pretty much covers it. In other news, Beavis broke out a new "move" today, which I dubbed "The Brontosaurus". It'll definitely be a dance sensation at Fur, 1223, and all those other clubs I don't ever go to in DC by the start of the bball season.
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Post by FLHoya on Jul 10, 2006 23:11:50 GMT -5
By the way, did TQ or 007 get a wall posting from DaJuan on facebook? Just to use a counter-example here, this is NOT a thinly-veiled brag post (TVBP). RBHoya is rather clearly bragging w/o veil. Now if he'd said "I was just brushing my teeth and dancing to my copy of 'Kilroy Was Here' while contemplating the inner meaning of the wall post Dajuan Summers made to me on Facebook...that would be a TVBP. I could totally get Ray Reed to Facebook friend me if I wanted. That'd show you all. ;D
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Post by GUHoya07 on Jul 11, 2006 2:29:55 GMT -5
He also launched a girl fight amongst the guys there about who's player was who's. Basically, when 007 and TQ started arguing over Summers and then somebody called RBHoya a bigamist for having a ton of favorites and it devolved from there until the only girl present put a stop to it by declaring "This conversation needs to stop. I can't handle my guy friends fighting over their basketball player crushes like 8th grade girls". Too many? 1. Jeff 1A. DaJuan 1B. J-Wallace Also highly regarded: Crawford, Hibbert, Thornton I wouldn't quite say that's TOO many. By the way, did TQ or 007 get a wall posting from DaJuan on facebook? Hm? No? Oh.... Well then. BTW, dibbs on Free for next year. are you kidding me? I had been a fan of DaJuan before you even knew who he was! I remember talking to Villanova fans about him at last years Cap Classic while watching Egerson and Sapp. I refuse to continue this because you are straight up delusional, hahaha. I also don't think you should have more than one favorite player per class, although the class of '08 has so many incredible choices. Here is my list of players per class, I didn't start till after my freshman year. Cornelio Guibunda-oops (replaced by Jeff Green) Jessie Sapp- I've loved his game ever since I first saw him at last year's Cap Classic DaJuan Summers-I've been a fan of his long before most of you posers
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Jul 11, 2006 7:57:44 GMT -5
Just want to take time to thank Jersey, FLHoya, MCI, TBird, and everyone else for providing Kenner updates- I am all about thanking them too! You young dudes are giving us some great reports to help out during the long dry spell till late November. Much, much appreciated.
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Jul 11, 2006 9:00:08 GMT -5
One of the ways to shore up the perimeter game seems to be in progress - Rivers at the point allowing JW to play the 2 and take advantage of his 3 pt ability without having point guard responsibilities. Now if Rivers can be enough of a minimal offensive threat to require defensive concern, that would be huge.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Jul 11, 2006 12:45:35 GMT -5
From a look at Tyler Crawford in Saturday's game vs. the Tombs, it appears that he has elevated his game (and hopefully confidence level) in both the 3-point and mid-range areas, which I think will allow him to step up a bit this season, as Coach alluded to in that College Hoops Online article.
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FLHoya
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Post by FLHoya on Jul 11, 2006 12:53:53 GMT -5
Just want to take time to thank Jersey, FLHoya, MCI, TBird, and everyone else for providing Kenner updates- I am all about thanking them too! You young dudes are giving us some great reports to help out during the long dry spell till late November. Much, much appreciated. I bet MCIGuy is really over-joyed at getting called a "young dude". ;D
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GUHoya07
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Post by GUHoya07 on Jul 11, 2006 12:54:48 GMT -5
I am all about thanking them too! You young dudes are giving us some great reports to help out during the long dry spell till late November. Much, much appreciated. I bet MCIGuy is really over-joyed at getting called a "young dude". ;D I'm sure you are as well, haha.
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