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Post by jwp91 on Sept 14, 2024 17:17:58 GMT -5
I am sitting here hoping that JH can contribute and not be lost on defense., and someone is hyping him up as a 2025 1st rounder?!!!
If he plays and earns a 1st round selection, then we will have a great season.
If he gets a 1st round grade based on potential, I hope he can learn the lessons from Yurt. I think any player reclassing up would be well served by a couple years of experience.
I don’t follow the NBA closely but Yurt had tools and range and several years of college, and now he is playing in Europe.
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Post by hoyaguy on Sept 14, 2024 18:05:57 GMT -5
I am sitting here hoping that JH can contribute and not be lost on defense., and someone is hyping him up as a 2025 1st rounder?!!! If he plays and earns a 1st round selection, then we will have a great season. If he gets a 1st round grade based on potential, I hope he can learn the lessons from Yurt. I think any player reclassing up would be well served by a couple years of experience. I don’t follow the NBA closely but Yurt had tools and range and several years of college, and now he is playing in Europe. Yurt was a weird case since had a number of tools. I watched him at Miami when Bam was out for awhile in 2022 and he did really well even in matchups against the best bigs in the league. The Heat was even a great place for him to develop, but alas idk what happened from there. I remember my friends who are sixers fans saw him playing and were like where do they keep finding these guys?!? But really I just hope JH can contribute well and that would be enough, not expecting a first rounder in a year.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Sept 23, 2024 3:23:09 GMT -5
I am sitting here hoping that JH can contribute and not be lost on defense., and someone is hyping him up as a 2025 1st rounder?!!! If he plays and earns a 1st round selection, then we will have a great season. If he gets a 1st round grade based on potential, I hope he can learn the lessons from Yurt. I think any player reclassing up would be well served by a couple years of experience. I don’t follow the NBA closely but Yurt had tools and range and several years of college, and now he is playing in Europe. While Omer just went to Europe, he played three seasons in the league. I got the chance to cover him last season with the Utah Jazz. We talked a lot about Ben's Chili Bowl.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Sept 23, 2024 3:27:32 GMT -5
I am sitting here hoping that JH can contribute and not be lost on defense., and someone is hyping him up as a 2025 1st rounder?!!! If he plays and earns a 1st round selection, then we will have a great season. If he gets a 1st round grade based on potential, I hope he can learn the lessons from Yurt. I think any player reclassing up would be well served by a couple years of experience. I don’t follow the NBA closely but Yurt had tools and range and several years of college, and now he is playing in Europe. Yurt was a weird case since had a number of tools. I watched him at Miami when Bam was out for awhile in 2022 and he did really well even in matchups against the best bigs in the league. The Heat was even a great place for him to develop, but alas idk what happened from there. I remember my friends who are sixers fans saw him playing and were like where do they keep finding these guys?!? But really I just hope JH can contribute well and that would be enough, not expecting a first rounder in a year. I haven't seen Julius play to craft an opinion. But I will say I was talking to a former NBA player who I know well and trust who said he would have been ranked in the top 20 had more people known about him for longer. clearly, Julius has some fans out there
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Post by jwp91 on Sept 23, 2024 10:02:57 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing Daytona.
I know you have NOT seen him play, but have the people you have spoken to referenced anything about 1) his ability to defend or 2) whether his skills set fit at 4 or exclusively at the 5?
He is clearly a talented offensive player, but I don't think I have seen a single defensive highlight...which concerns me. I have also heard chatter reportedly from NBA scouts about his skills being relevant to playing the 4. Maybe that works at the pros but at his size and apparent mobility, I have questions again defensively.
Thanks in advance.
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Post by MCIGuy on Sept 23, 2024 11:06:15 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing Daytona. I know you have NOT seen him play, but have the people you have spoken to referenced anything about 1) his ability to defend or 2) whether his skills set fit at 4 or exclusively at the 5? He is clearly a talented offensive player, but I don't think I have seen a single defensive highlight...which concerns me. I have also heard chatter reportedly from NBA scouts about his skills being relevant to playing the 4. Maybe that works at the pros but at his size and apparent mobility, I have questions again defensively. I have seen a few defensive highlights sprinkled in, mostly blocks. The thing is however that 95% of the highlights for most players will be those on the offensive end.
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Post by marcusee on Sept 23, 2024 18:43:27 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing Daytona. I know you have NOT seen him play, but have the people you have spoken to referenced anything about 1) his ability to defend or 2) whether his skills set fit at 4 or exclusively at the 5? He is clearly a talented offensive player, but I don't think I have seen a single defensive highlight...which concerns me. I have also heard chatter reportedly from NBA scouts about his skills being relevant to playing the 4. Maybe that works at the pros but at his size and apparent mobility, I have questions again defensively. Thanks in advance. Yurt is also a special case cause he was born in Uzebekistan and raised in Turkey. Playing in the Euro League is closer to home for him. Additionally, he is playing for Panathinaikos in Greece. That is one of the better and wealthier clubs in Europe. He likely is making a good bit more money than he would on an NBA vet minimum salary. Probably has an opportunity for more minutes a better role etc. I can see in his case easily preferring that to trying to hustle again to see if he can find an NBA team where he is probably in a league minimum deep bench role. He's young he may have more NBA opportunities eventually. Might be better career wise to go to Europe now and ball out so if he does come back its in a better position.
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Post by jwp91 on Sept 24, 2024 10:02:38 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing Daytona. I know you have NOT seen him play, but have the people you have spoken to referenced anything about 1) his ability to defend or 2) whether his skills set fit at 4 or exclusively at the 5? He is clearly a talented offensive player, but I don't think I have seen a single defensive highlight...which concerns me. I have also heard chatter reportedly from NBA scouts about his skills being relevant to playing the 4. Maybe that works at the pros but at his size and apparent mobility, I have questions again defensively. I have seen a few defensive highlights sprinkled in, mostly blocks. The thing is however that 95% of the highlights for most players will be those on the offensive end. Thanks. I am aware of the absence of defensive plays in highlight videos but for centers sometimes it is different. Most centers with a defensive presence feature something defensively. In his case, the absence of defensive highlights (to my recollection) was a topic for follow-up.
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