sweetness
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Post by sweetness on Jun 5, 2024 17:35:57 GMT -5
I'm assuming/expecting that the guys we are bringing in at the wing spot will be able to knock down shots.
As for the big man....not looking good obviously, but still hoping he pulls a rabbit out of his hat.
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bills
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Post by bills on Jun 5, 2024 17:42:17 GMT -5
Is the 24th ranked transfer class really that impressive when we were told we had a top 5 NIL budget and only brought back 2 players from last season? No, it’s not. Particularly when the number one need: a Center, is not part of the class. The number 1 need at the end of last season was a strong point guard, not a Center, and we filled that requirement. We have Fielger who played well and improved significantly one one of the top centers in the class of 2024 coming in.
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bills
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Post by bills on Jun 5, 2024 17:46:55 GMT -5
If they are dealing with agents and not the players themselves, it's easy to see a scenario where they are being played and duped. I would hope they are learning from this. this off-season has been an complete failure this roster could possibly be worse than last season if we don't find a big east quality big and a shooter this team doesn't have not one. We are significantly better offensively and defensively at 4 of the five positions and we have a MUCH stronger bench than last year. If a better point guard, more coaching, and year to year growth help Epps catch and shoot a higher percentage from 3 then we are improved at every position on the roster over last year.
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bluechi
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Post by bluechi on Jun 5, 2024 17:52:02 GMT -5
Everyone keeps referring to Fielder as a Center, I think he's a PF.
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conshyhoya
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Post by conshyhoya on Jun 5, 2024 18:12:10 GMT -5
Everyone keeps referring to Fielder as a Center, I think he's a PF. That may be true but most likely isn't on this current roster at least some of the time.
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bluegray79
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Post by bluegray79 on Jun 5, 2024 18:16:51 GMT -5
If they are dealing with agents and not the players themselves, it's easy to see a scenario where they are being played and duped. I would hope they are learning from this. this off-season has been an complete failure this roster could possibly be worse than last season if we don't find a big east quality big and a shooter this team doesn't have not one. Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike -- hyperbole is good to provoke but is not often good for putting out facts and fact-based opinions. You're going to have to back that stuff up lest people think you're here just to be blowin' smoke.
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Jun 5, 2024 18:20:36 GMT -5
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Jun 5, 2024 18:21:14 GMT -5
this off-season has been an complete failure this roster could possibly be worse than last season if we don't find a big east quality big and a shooter this team doesn't have not one. Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike -- hyperbole is good to provoke but is not often good for putting out facts and fact-based opinions. You're going to have to back that stuff up lest people think you're here just to be blowin' smoke. Writing a first post in proper English might have also not been a bad idea.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jun 5, 2024 18:25:24 GMT -5
Who cares about high school rankings. Clearly they both had potential coming out of high school in order to be recruited and given a scholarship by Kentucky. They both played a year of college. You conveniently skipped those stats. I'm not saying Burks will guaranteed be Hopkins but Hopkins wasn't a stud when he left Kentucky. They had similar stats and similar measurables. Maybe Hopkins would have still been the player he is now if he went elsewhere but that isn't what happened so there is no way to know. You don't think that Burks is a similar type of player that Cooley has had success developing prior even outside Hopkins? "Burks was one of only five three-star recruits (per the 247Sports Composite) to ever play for Calipari at UK. According to college basketball statistician Evan Miyakawa, Burks ranked as the No. 507 overall player in the transfer portal, as of Thursday morning." www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/uk-basketball-men/article287852805.htmlBesides being on the roster for one year at Kentucky and then transferring, Hopkins and Burks have very little in common. If Calipari had Burks on his roster as one of only five three star recruits to play for Calipari at Kentucky, that says something about what he thought of Burks, no? If he was that selective with three star players, he must have seen potential. But go ahead and spin it negatively. This is silly anyway. Once you have guys who have actually played basketball, the recruiting ranks mean less. Hopkins was better ranked than Burks, sure, but his performance on the Court at Kentucky wasn't anything special. And there are 4-5 star guys who flame out and turn out to be duds. Hopkins, under Cooley, was certainly not a dud. Given that Burks was stuck behind 10 better players at Kentucky he basically didn't play. That's what the No. 507 ranking is about. Cooley recruited Burks on his potential, not on his performance at Kentucky or his recruiting ranking.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jun 5, 2024 18:26:46 GMT -5
Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike -- hyperbole is good to provoke but is not often good for putting out facts and fact-based opinions. You're going to have to back that stuff up lest people think you're here just to be blowin' smoke. Writing a first post in proper English might have also not been a bad idea. While I am not too optimistic yet on our roster (I'll get there by November!), I think we clearly have a better roster than we had this past season. We will be better. But the bar is low. How much better? That's the real unknown.
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vv83
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Post by vv83 on Jun 5, 2024 18:49:31 GMT -5
Just play even a little remotely competent defense, and I'll be happy! The past three years of awful D have been tough to take. Even without a defensive C - I'll lose much of whatever hope I have for Cooley's leadership if he can't figure out a way to get at least mediocre defense out of this year's team.
On the plus side (and it is the smallest plus imaginable!) - did you see Burks maxing out on the vertical leap test device in the little clip from practice they put out today? We are at the point where this kind of almost completely meaningless stuff becomes a tiny nugget of positivity to try to latch onto.
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madgesiq92
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Post by madgesiq92 on Jun 5, 2024 19:02:41 GMT -5
Burks has more upside than anyone we’ve had in the program in a long time. NBA athleticism.
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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Jun 5, 2024 19:22:54 GMT -5
Still surprised we could not (yet?) get a significant upgrade at the 5 in the portal. It is fair comment on Cooley IMO but still like the freshmen and transfers coming in.
Hoping we can get to the bubble this year but OOC might make that quite difficult.
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hoyariv71
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Post by hoyariv71 on Jun 5, 2024 19:30:17 GMT -5
Trust me, Sorber will be an upgrade at every part of the game!!!!!
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jun 5, 2024 19:37:07 GMT -5
The best this program has had this century is when Barker Davis covered the team... Absolutely agree. Barker was the best.
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Post by madmike on Jun 5, 2024 19:55:25 GMT -5
Absolutely think we are a much better team than last year. We can defend at an average/above average level. Just feel like a defensive center (even a backup to sorber) would have taken us from bottom of the big east to middle of the league. Epps and Mack are going to be tough to watch defensively. Would have been nice to have someone to erase those mistakes.
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madgesiq92
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Post by madgesiq92 on Jun 5, 2024 20:09:59 GMT -5
Absolutely think we are a much better team than last year. We can defend at an average/above average level. Just feel like a defensive center (even a backup to sorber) would have taken us from bottom of the big east to middle of the league. Epps and Mack are going to be tough to watch defensively. Would have been nice to have someone to erase those mistakes. Last year we had four rotation players that did not belong playing high major basketball. This team has much better talent.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Jun 5, 2024 21:18:12 GMT -5
Absolutely think we are a much better team than last year. We can defend at an average/above average level. Just feel like a defensive center (even a backup to sorber) would have taken us from bottom of the big east to middle of the league. Epps and Mack are going to be tough to watch defensively. Would have been nice to have someone to erase those mistakes. Last year we had four rotation players that did not belong playing high major basketball. This team has much better talent. Massoud, Bacote, Cook, Bristol?
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hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Jun 5, 2024 21:21:11 GMT -5
Absolutely think we are a much better team than last year. We can defend at an average/above average level. Just feel like a defensive center (even a backup to sorber) would have taken us from bottom of the big east to middle of the league. Epps and Mack are going to be tough to watch defensively. Would have been nice to have someone to erase those mistakes. Last year we had four rotation players that did not belong playing high major basketball. This team has much better talent. Which ones were those?
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bluechi
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Post by bluechi on Jun 5, 2024 22:46:47 GMT -5
Burks has more upside than anyone we’ve had in the program in a long time. NBA athleticism. Those who can see, know.
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