BU DMR Meet

[Nevada Hoya]

The men go up versus other top teams (e.g., BYU, Stanford, New Mexico, VA Tech) at Boston to try to get their DMR team into the NCAA. Top 12 teams across the country will compete at nationals.

[birdman]

USTFCCCA rundown of the NCAA's "DMR Weekend" meets: www.ustfccca.org/2024/02/featured/collegiate-track-field-dmr-weekend-alex-wilson-invitational-arkansas-qualifier

Go Hoyas!

[Nevada Hoya]

It used to be only one or two meets that were running the DMR. So the Hoyas will be running against the field at Boston but also against the teams at the other DMR set up meets for a bid at nationals.

[birdman]

Impressive times out of the Arkansas Qualifier

1 Washington 9:18.81 New '24 DI #1 • 'A' • H1 • J. Waskom, D. Gaik, N. Green, L. Houser

2 Virginia 9:18.95 New '24 DI #2 • 'A' • H1 • C. Murphy, A. Sherman, A. Leath, G. Martin

3 Oklahoma State 9:19.74 New '24 DI #3 • 'A' • H1 • B. Musau, D. McArthur, M. Yanouri, R. Schoppe

4 Arkansas 9:20.09 New '24 DI #4 • 'A' • H1 • B. Shearer, T. Tomlyanovich, R. Wells, P. Maru

5 Iowa State 9:24.22 New '24 DI #5 • 'A' • H1 • D. Kipyego, G. Langford, F. McLear, S. Mechaal

[birdman]

Sean Laidlaw is listed in Heat 2 of the Men's Mile.

Edit: Sean was on the start list, but is a DNS in the results.

[birdman]

Hoyas answer the challenge out of Arkansas! Great race, boys!

1 Virginia Tech
Plant, Lincoln IV, Jackson, Coleman
9:22.71 1
2 Georgetown
Payamps, Givan, Matsatsa, Teffra
9:23.78 1
3 Auburn
Hardin, Bessick, O'Loughlin, Kinnane
9:24.43 1
4 BYU
Bons, Taylor, Fernandez, Troutner, Haughton, Jackson
9:25.79 1
5 Stanford
Sprout, Floyd, Young, Robinson, Boyden, Young, Ryan, Skapinsky
9:27.06 1
6 New Mexico
Kiplagat, Soos, Burrows, Samuel, Young
9:28.79 1
7 Duke
Gabay, Rodriguez, Drometer, Wittstadt
9:29.20 1
8 Boston College
Brown, Kravitz, Kelly, Jackson
9:44.53 1
9 Connecticut
Martin, Sharif, Geisler, Cawley, Sutton, Rajamanickam
9:46.07 1
DNF Empire Elite TC
1

[Nevada Hoya]

1 Virginia Tech
Plant, Lincoln IV, Jackson, Coleman
9:22.71 1
2 Georgetown
Payamps, Givan, Matsatsa, Teffra
9:23.78 1
3 Auburn
Hardin, Bessick, O'Loughlin, Kinnane
9:24.43 1
4 BYU
Bons, Taylor, Fernandez, Troutner, Haughton, Jackson
9:25.79 1
5 Stanford
Sprout, Floyd, Young, Robinson, Boyden, Young, Ryan, Skapinsky
9:27.06 1
6 New Mexico
Kiplagat, Soos, Burrows, Samuel, Young
9:28.79 1
7 Duke
Gabay, Rodriguez, Drometer, Wittstadt
9:29.20 1
8 Boston College
Brown, Kravitz, Kelly, Jackson
9:44.53 1
9 Connecticut
Martin, Sharif, Geisler, Cawley, Sutton, Rajamanickam
9:46.07 1
DNF Empire Elite TC
1

[Nevada Hoya]

Birds of a feather...

[birdman]

Hoyas are 6th nationally after tonight. Guess we hold our breath waiting for ND and JCL (NC) results.

[Nevada Hoya]

Here are the splits, as I figured them out.

Matt Payamps (1200): 2:52.23
Nick Givan (400)47.40
Tinoda Matsatsa (800) 1:48.01
Abel Teffra (1600) 3:56.15

[Nevada Hoya]

We were trailing VA Tech by five seconds going into the 1600m leg and trailing BYU by two seconds.

[Nevada Hoya]

This is another Georgetown record in the DMR by about 4.5 seconds.

[Nevada Hoya]

At the Notre Dame meet

Men's DMR

1 Northern Arizona
9:17.43
2 North Carolina
9:17.92
3 Michigan
9:19.33
4 Wisconsin
9:21.07
5 Indiana
9:23.41
6 Cornell
9:24.49

So if the Notre Dame results stand and the Arkansas meet stands, it looks as if the Hoyas have the 11th fastest time; remember the top 12 go to nationals. Also, the Notre Dame track is 320m, which is bigger than the 200m track, and I think the times on that track will be modified down.

[birdman]

Also, I would be surprised if Northern Arizona entered a DMR at Nationals. Young and Quax seem likely to double 3k/5k. Sahlman has one of the fastest mile times in the nation and that's a really tough double to come back from mile prelims to the DMR (especially with the expedited timetable of the men's/women's-only nights).

I don't know what the substitute rules are, but I think it used to be you could only swap out one runner from the qualifying squad (when I was a freshman, Colorado St. qualified a DMR with Bryan Berryhill anchoring, then he only ran (and won) the mile at Nationals and the relay got pantsed without him).

[birdman]

Feb 17, 2024 14:41:34 GMT -5 Nevada Hoya said:

At the Notre Dame meet

Men's DMR

1 Northern Arizona
9:17.43
2 North Carolina
9:17.92
3 Michigan
9:19.33
4 Wisconsin
9:21.07
5 Indiana
9:23.41
6 Cornell
9:24.49

So if the Notre Dame results stand and the Arkansas meet stands, it looks as if the Hoyas have the 11th fastest time; remember the top 12 go to nationals. Also, the Notre Dame track is 320m, which is bigger than the 200m track, and I think the times on that track will be modified down.

Thank you for the update and analysis. Hopefully the men get in!

[Nevada Hoya]

From The Stride Report:

As for Georgetown, they'll seemingly sneak into the national meet with their time, but they aren't necessarily 100% safe with conference championships coming up.

Here's the thing: What we saw from the Hoyas on Friday was not their best effort. This should be a DMR that is flirting with the 9:20 barrier. Abel Teffra ran fairly well on the anchor leg, but it did feel like there were two or three seconds that Georgetown collectively left on the track.


The good news is that this relay seems to be interchangeable. You can reorder a lot of these Hoyas in a variety of different ways and still find success, especially when you throw in other men like Tim McInerney, Camden Gilmore and Parker Stokes.

[Nevada Hoya]

I think Joshua Paige's not running lost the Hoyas at least one second.

[RG]

Tinoda and Abel were both two seconds slower than their best times. So add Joshua not running and we are potentially looking at five seconds.

[Nevada Hoya]

In this week's rankings:

Women's Regional: down one to #7
Men's Regional: up one to #7
Women's Conference: #3
Men's conference: up one to #4
Women's National: up 11 to #29
Men's National: up also 11 to #48
In the squad event;
Women are ranked #10 in the 3000m and 24th in the mile; 44th in the 400m, 82nd in the 200m, 85th in the 800m, 124th in the 60m.
Men are ranked 4th in the 800m, 6th in the mile, 44th in the 3000m, 111th in the 200m, 127th in the 400m, and 191st in the 60m.

[birdman]

Feb 17, 2024 15:38:58 GMT -5 birdman said:

Also, I would be surprised if Northern Arizona entered a DMR at Nationals. Young and Quax seem likely to double 3k/5k. Sahlman has one of the fastest mile times in the nation and that's a really tough double to come back from mile prelims to the DMR (especially with the expedited timetable of the men's/women's-only nights).

I don't know what the substitute rules are, but I think it used to be you could only swap out one runner from the qualifying squad (when I was a freshman, Colorado St. qualified a DMR with Bryan Berryhill anchoring, then he only ran (and won) the mile at Nationals and the relay got pantsed without him).

I know nobody is relying on my "expert analysis" (biggest of sarcasm fonts) on this, but I took a second look at the 5k charts and reconsidered my take on whether they'll run the DMR. Obviously Nico is doubling 5k/3k and not going to run the relay (he's not Rupp, and not even King Ches could pull off the triple), so they would need to sub him out (they have another 3:57 miler (run at Boston, so not even an altitude conversion) or shift Sahlman or Quax and slip a sub in the 1200 or 800). However, NAU has another guy higher than Theo Quax on the 5k list, so holding him out doesn't cost them the points I thought it might. A DMR/3K double is very doable for someone of Quax's caliber.

The real risk is still Sahlman, who would need to double back from the mile prelims to run the DMR. Maybe they'll move him to the 800 leg (he's run 1:47.88 indoors this year) for less cumulative work or to the mile anchor leg for an extra 6 minutes of rest after his mile heat.

Either way, if NAU is a serious contender for the Indoor title, the points of a high-finish in the DMR aren't ones they're likely to leave on the table. Bummed that the Hoyas men won't have a buffer, and I hope they make the meet.