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Post by prhoya on Sept 13, 2023 16:35:23 GMT -5
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Sept 13, 2023 16:46:54 GMT -5
No McKenna??? Does anyone had credible info about what happened? That is a huge blow. Any chance he could join the team during second semester?
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Post by thedragon on Sept 13, 2023 17:01:18 GMT -5
No McKenna??? Does anyone had credible info about what happened? That is a huge blow. Any chance he could join the team during second semester? As I've posted on here many times. I've heard all along that he was going to redshirt this year. Part of that is a need to still finish some HS classes, although there was some hope that would happen after the summer semester. But that likely didn't occur based on this. |
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Post by jackofjoy on Sept 13, 2023 17:20:36 GMT -5
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Post by EtomicB on Sept 13, 2023 17:23:24 GMT -5
No McKenna??? Does anyone had credible info about what happened? That is a huge blow. Any chance he could join the team during second semester? As I've posted on here many times. I've heard all along that he was going to redshirt this year. Part of that is a need to still finish some HS classes, although there was some hope that would happen after the summer semester. But that likely didn't occur based on this. So where is he right now? |
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Post by hoyaboya on Sept 13, 2023 17:24:09 GMT -5
No McKenna??? Does anyone had credible info about what happened? That is a huge blow. Any chance he could join the team during second semester? As I've posted on here many times. I've heard all along that he was going to redshirt this year. Part of that is a need to still finish some HS classes, although there was some hope that would happen after the summer semester. But that likely didn't occur based on this. But wouldn't Mckenna be in school and on the roster if he was redshirting? Since he's not on the roster, and there haven't been reports of him being on campus for school, appears likely that he's finishing high school somewhere. |
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Post by thedragon on Sept 13, 2023 17:30:55 GMT -5
As I've posted on here many times. I've heard all along that he was going to redshirt this year. Part of that is a need to still finish some HS classes, although there was some hope that would happen after the summer semester. But that likely didn't occur based on this. So where is he right now? Don't know. Hopefully will hear soon. |
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Post by prhoya on Sept 13, 2023 17:37:55 GMT -5
And a lot of players familiar with each other and raised/trained by the same coach for years… |
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Post by DFW HOYA on Sept 13, 2023 17:38:21 GMT -5
Six Walk-ons. Wow. Is that a Gtown bball record in the scholarship era DFW HOYA? *I guess I should clarify that I'm assuming Bacote, Montgomery, Muresan, Assadallah, Kazur, Grant are walk on because they've either been reported as such or previously were. But it wouldn't be a shock if a couple got scholarships due to availability I'll go with five -- no inside information, but I don't think Bacote is walking on for a seventh year of college ball and he was not a walk-on elsewhere. Five walk-ons would appear to be the most since 1962-63, when the Hoyas lost eight players to graduation and brought up only three scholarship players from the freshman team. |
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Post by TC on Sept 13, 2023 17:45:23 GMT -5
15 players on the roster…just 5 (incl. Muresan) over 6’7”… 6’11”, 173 lbs, senior Muresan will have to contribute. Without considering the SF (or 3) position, there are at least 80 minutes per game between C and PF. We have 5 front court players for those mpg. Looking at those 5 players’ career stats, the most Massoud has averaged in a season is 24.3 mpg; Cook’s most was 26.2 mpg; and Mutombo tops at 11.8 mpg. Fielder and Muresan are dnp. That’s 62.3 mpg. Where do the other 17.7 mpg? If Ryan is ready, I expect his minutes to increase to 17 mpg. Can Cook and Massoud handle more? Fielder and 6’11”, 173 lbs senior Muresan will need to provide the other 10 mpg. Please come back to reality. Drew Fielder is a great scholarship recruit who practiced all summer and who people in the know have pointed out will be a surprise this season. Victor Muresan is a Senior who we haven't seen in Kenner or in practice all summer and who has played 4 total minutes. They don't belong in the same sentence and I doubt Muresan plays in any scenario other than empty the bench. |
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Sept 13, 2023 18:09:11 GMT -5
I think it’s highly unlikely Muresan plays much, if any role. That Ryan Mutombo played low minutes the last two years is, I think, more Ewing mishandling him than anything else. Ryan is a young guy and by all accounts healthy. Really the only thing that should prevent him from playing at least 20 minutes a game is either better players or foul trouble. Fielder is also young and barring injury should be able to play at least 10-15 unless he fouls like mad.
And as others have said, Supreme Cook has played fairly high minutes at Fairfield before. I just don’t see how you play walk ons like Muresan unless it’s an extreme need resulting from injury or foul trouble. I have to think if he had real skills, we’d know it by now.
The other wild card would be McKenna becoming available all of a sudden if he manages to meet enrollment requirements.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Sept 13, 2023 18:13:17 GMT -5
As I've posted on here many times. I've heard all along that he was going to redshirt this year. Part of that is a need to still finish some HS classes, although there was some hope that would happen after the summer semester. But that likely didn't occur based on this. But wouldn't Mckenna be in school and on the roster if he was redshirting? Since he's not on the roster, and there haven't been reports of him being on campus for school, appears likely that he's finishing high school somewhere. Nobody can seemingly answer this question, but if McKenna hasn’t graduated from high school, I don’t think he can enroll at Georgetown. Part of the issue is you have both NCAA requirements AND Georgetown requirements. As somebody noted, the NCAA no longer requires an SAT or ACT, but Georgetown does. Not knowing what the reason for his lack of eligibility is, it’s hard to even figure out whether he could be enrolled. That doesn’t mean he cannot dorm with our guys, take high school classes, use the practice facility and be with our coaches and guys (not sure if technically he could join official practices but I’m sure he could do unofficial activities). |
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Post by calhoya on Sept 13, 2023 18:15:45 GMT -5
This is the team. I will be rooting hard for this group to succeed. We have an experienced coach and assistants and I am optimistic they can get more out of this group than we have seen the past couple of years when we had many more scholarship players. Never thought next year was going to be a tournament team. If they are competitive, unselfish on offense and play respectable defense it will be an improvement. Lot's of guards means problems on the boards but if we have some shooters and some slashers it can be hard on an opposing team as well. The key will be whether Cooley can adapt his scheme to the talent on hand.
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Post by seaweed on Sept 13, 2023 18:20:36 GMT -5
The sum is greater than the parts.
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Post by hoyaboya on Sept 13, 2023 19:36:45 GMT -5
But wouldn't Mckenna be in school and on the roster if he was redshirting? Since he's not on the roster, and there haven't been reports of him being on campus for school, appears likely that he's finishing high school somewhere. Nobody can seemingly answer this question, but if McKenna hasn’t graduated from high school, I don’t think he can enroll at Georgetown. Part of the issue is you have both NCAA requirements AND Georgetown requirements. As somebody noted, the NCAA no longer requires an SAT or ACT, but Georgetown does. Not knowing what the reason for his lack of eligibility is, it’s hard to even figure out whether he could be enrolled. That doesn’t mean he cannot dorm with our guys, take high school classes, use the practice facility and be with our coaches and guys (not sure if technically he could join official practices but I’m sure he could do unofficial activities). Georgetown requires the SAT/ACT to be taken by its applicants, including athletes. Georgetown does not require applicants, especially athletes, to obtain certain SAT/ACT scores to be admitted. Very important distinction...it's highly likely that McKenna has not obtained NCAA qualification, as opposed to somehow Georgetown's admissions department holding him back. |
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Post by prhoya on Sept 13, 2023 19:38:06 GMT -5
15 players on the roster…just 5 (incl. Muresan) over 6’7”… 6’11”, 173 lbs, senior Muresan will have to contribute. Without considering the SF (or 3) position, there are at least 80 minutes per game between C and PF. We have 5 front court players for those mpg. Looking at those 5 players’ career stats, the most Massoud has averaged in a season is 24.3 mpg; Cook’s most was 26.2 mpg; and Mutombo tops at 11.8 mpg. Fielder and Muresan are dnp. That’s 62.3 mpg. Where do the other 17.7 mpg? If Ryan is ready, I expect his minutes to increase to 17 mpg. Can Cook and Massoud handle more? Fielder and 6’11”, 173 lbs senior Muresan will need to provide the other 10 mpg. Please come back to reality. Drew Fielder is a great scholarship recruit who practiced all summer and who people in the know have pointed out will be a surprise this season. Victor Muresan is a Senior who we haven't seen in Kenner or in practice all summer and who has played 4 total minutes. They don't belong in the same sentence and I doubt Muresan plays in any scenario other than empty the bench. We’ll need all the front court size we can get. |
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Post by dense on Sept 14, 2023 5:29:29 GMT -5
Probably gonna see alot of a Brumbaugh, Epps, Heath, Styles, Massoud lineup also.
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Post by DanMcQ on Sept 14, 2023 9:56:28 GMT -5
2023-24 Roster Table updated. All 6 newcomers listed as walk-ons, absent any independently verified indications to the contrary. Feel free to PM me with such information. And no, a tweet stating someone knows one of them is on athletic scholarship is not independent verification.
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Post by bluegray79 on Sept 14, 2023 11:38:36 GMT -5
Nobody can seemingly answer this question, but if McKenna hasn’t graduated from high school, I don’t think he can enroll at Georgetown. Part of the issue is you have both NCAA requirements AND Georgetown requirements. As somebody noted, the NCAA no longer requires an SAT or ACT, but Georgetown does. Not knowing what the reason for his lack of eligibility is, it’s hard to even figure out whether he could be enrolled. That doesn’t mean he cannot dorm with our guys, take high school classes, use the practice facility and be with our coaches and guys (not sure if technically he could join official practices but I’m sure he could do unofficial activities). Georgetown requires the SAT/ACT to be taken by its applicants, including athletes. Georgetown does not require applicants, especially athletes, to obtain certain SAT/ACT scores to be admitted. Very important distinction...it's highly likely that McKenna has not obtained NCAA qualification, as opposed to somehow Georgetown's admissions department holding him back. Don't know if it means anything or how long it's been up there, but McKenna is listed on HoyaReport.com's commitment list for next year's class. I might be wrong, but I don't think he was on that list a couple of weeks ago. |
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Post by iowa80 on Sept 14, 2023 12:20:19 GMT -5
Having been awakened from a slumber of several months by the arrival of an actual roster, it seems clear that this is a de facto 9-man team on game day, certainly in the second halves of BE games. We can hope for someone truly helpful to emerge from the walk-ons (Bacote? Alexander?), but history argues strongly against it. Rebuilding from the depths is not easy, so please takes this as a statement of reality and not a criticism of Coach Cooley.
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