hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 6, 2023 9:52:10 GMT -5
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Mar 6, 2023 10:17:14 GMT -5
Whomever voted is spot on. Nobody deserves any honors. The shocker to me is in hyping the BE tournament, they used Primo as a marquee player in the add. Seemed odd but I guess they had to get someone in there.
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Post by prhoya on Mar 6, 2023 10:19:34 GMT -5
Yikes! To think I believed Pat at 2022 BE Media Day: “You can’t ignore it,” Ewing said Wednesday at media day. “I’ve taken responsibility as the head of this program for last year’s season. When you don’t accomplish the things that you set out for, changes have to be made. Changes were made both on my staff and also with the players. . . . You have to make changes when things don’t go well. And I think that the guys that we have brought in have done a great job so far in trying to get us back to where we need to get to.”... Nice cliché! But, what film was he watching? Oscar nominated? My advice to Pat: change confidants. “I need to get better at everything,” Ewing said. “The day you think that you know everything is the day you stop growing. So naturally, I watched film. Watched last year’s film. Watched previous years’ film. Talked to my confidants that I have, not only in the NBA but all over, about things that I need to do to be better. You have to continue to grow to be successful.”... Well, we won seven this year, so there’s that: “It’s definitely a goal that we all think about,” said Akok Akok, a 6-foot-10 junior forward who played three seasons at Connecticut. “They only won six games last year. Everybody knows [within] the program that’s unacceptable. The program and the history of the program, the players that used to come from this program, we’ve got to lead the right way and also leave for the future guys that are coming here as well. So we’ve got a big chip on our shoulder this year.”... Primo and Qudus drank the Kool-Aid about some sort of culture under Patrick Ewing. They keep repeating that talking point: Sophomore Primo Spears, a transfer from Duquesne, added: “We think that when Georgetown basketball is great, then basketball all around is great. We definitely want to bring that energy back and that winning culture back to the program.”“Georgetown is like home to me,” Wahab said. “Also, the culture is changing, and the mentality is changing. We want to bring Georgetown back to the top.”... Pat, do you need a whole new set of players to try it again? Ewing added, ”We definitely have more talent than we had in the past.”Pat, it’s not the arrows; it’s the Indian... Quotes from: www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/10/26/patrick-ewing-georgetown-changes/ |
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Post by Elvado on Mar 6, 2023 10:32:48 GMT -5
Patrick is truly a record breaking coach.
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Post by drquigley on Mar 6, 2023 11:49:26 GMT -5
Goes directly to my thread, "So How Good Are the Players?" The folks who put these lists together can look objectively at our lineup and see clearly that compared to their conference peers our players are lacking. Yes, a new, better coach will be able to raise their performance but without an infusion of better players we will not be turning the program around anytime soon.
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TC
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Post by TC on Mar 6, 2023 12:00:35 GMT -5
Goes directly to my thread, "So How Good Are the Players?" The folks who put these lists together can look objectively at our lineup and see clearly that compared to their conference peers our players are lacking. The all-conference lists reward results, not talent. We've got plenty of players in the leaders categories (Primo in scoring and assists, Qudus in rebounding, Akok in blocks) but only two league wins. Bad teams aren't represented on first or second team usually. Normally, Primo would have made third team, but Primo wasn't anywhere on the EFG% list because of the way he was coached and the fact that he was never taken out after bad shots. We can't field anyone onto the all-defensive team because this team was abysmal defensively (coaching!). Typically bad teams are represented on the All-Freshman team but Patrick Ewing refused to play any of the freshmen. That's not a judgement of Denver Anglin's talent - that's a judgement on usage and coaching. All of this comes back to coaching and not talent. |
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Post by madgesiq92 on Mar 6, 2023 12:07:40 GMT -5
Too bad there is not a "The Razzies" version of the Big East Awards. We would have had a clean sweep, especially in the coaching categories.
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 6, 2023 12:40:57 GMT -5
Too bad there is not a "The Razzies" version of the Big East Awards. We would have had a clean sweep, especially in the coaching categories. “When I’m at the bottom looking up, the main question may not be ‘how do I get out of this hole?’ In reality, the main question might be ‘how do I get rid of the shovel that I used to dig it?” — Craig D. Lounsbrough |
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Post by drquigley on Mar 6, 2023 16:44:15 GMT -5
Goes directly to my thread, "So How Good Are the Players?" The folks who put these lists together can look objectively at our lineup and see clearly that compared to their conference peers our players are lacking. The all-conference lists reward results, not talent. We've got plenty of players in the leaders categories (Primo in scoring and assists, Qudus in rebounding, Akok in blocks) but only two league wins. Bad teams aren't represented on first or second team usually. Normally, Primo would have made third team, but Primo wasn't anywhere on the EFG% list because of the way he was coached and the fact that he was never taken out after bad shots. We can't field anyone onto the all-defensive team because this team was abysmal defensively (coaching!). Typically bad teams are represented on the All-Freshman team but Patrick Ewing refused to play any of the freshmen. That's not a judgement of Denver Anglin's talent - that's a judgement on usage and coaching. All of this comes back to coaching and not talent. "Results not talent"  ? I smell a lawyer here platinum. A distinction without a difference. If Primo were an All BE Player, even 3rd team, his talent should have produced some results. My point in this and other posts is that as bad a coach as Ewing is we don't have enough BE talent on this team to expect a new coach, even Rick Pitino, to take us from 2-18 to 10-10 in one year. |
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Post by CTHoya08 on Mar 6, 2023 18:27:34 GMT -5
We are not going to have the same roster next year. Likely not even close.
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Post by TC on Mar 6, 2023 18:33:56 GMT -5
"Results not talent" ? I smell a lawyer here platinum. Take that back! Please remove this ad-hominem attack!! I've been called a cancer and a locust this year but no one has stooped to this level of insult. |
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 6, 2023 19:51:08 GMT -5
"Results not talent" ? I smell a lawyer here platinum. Take that back! Please remove this ad-hominem attack!! I've been called a cancer and a locust this year but no one has stooped to this level of insult. I swear half the board is composed of lawyers! I plead guilty!! |
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Post by drquigley on Mar 6, 2023 20:20:38 GMT -5
Take that back! Please remove this ad-hominem attack!! I've been called a cancer and a locust this year but no one has stooped to this level of insult. I swear half the board is composed of lawyers! I plead guilty!! If the hominem fits. |
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Post by astrohoya on Mar 6, 2023 21:21:55 GMT -5
Pat didn’t get any votes for Coach of the Year?
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Post by Elvado on Mar 7, 2023 7:37:48 GMT -5
Pat didn’t get any votes for Coach of the Year? I am sure all 10 would vote for him if they thought he could stay in place providing each with 2 breathers every season… |
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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Mar 7, 2023 15:58:13 GMT -5
Nickleberry's kid named 6th man of the year in the A10.
So there is that.
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Post by hoyaguy on Mar 7, 2023 17:05:34 GMT -5
Pat didn’t get any votes for Coach of the Year? I am sure all 10 would vote for him if they thought he could stay in place providing each with 2 breathers every season… The basketball season is long so gotta give the other BE teams a couple of bye weeks |
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 7, 2023 17:48:27 GMT -5
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hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 7, 2023 19:16:50 GMT -5
Do you want me to add “men” to the thread title? |
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 7, 2023 20:06:01 GMT -5
Do you want me to add “men” to the thread title? Unnecessary. Just trying to interject some humor, clearly not recognized as such. As you were. |
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? I smell a lawyer here platinum. A distinction without a difference. If Primo were an All BE Player, even 3rd team, his talent should have produced some results. My point in this and other posts is that as bad a coach as Ewing is we don't have enough BE talent on this team to expect a new coach, even Rick Pitino, to take us from 2-18 to 10-10 in one year. 
