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Post by wrestlemania on Mar 2, 2023 13:30:43 GMT -5
Would the result have been any different had John Thompson lived a few more years and been healthy enough to still have an impact? I'm guessing not really, but, if we're going glass half full, it's a good bet that he would have realized earlier than most that Patrick was a bad fit, and thus he might have been willing to broker a compromise departure that spared everyone's feelings while avoiding the unmitigated disaster we're seeing now. I'm not sure Patrick would have opposed this as long as he got paid. But the flipside is that John presumably would have been heavily involved in vetting Pat's replacement, perpetuating the cycle the program needs to escape.
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astrohoya
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Post by astrohoya on Mar 2, 2023 13:38:48 GMT -5
I don’t like to speculate, because I do not enjoy people being dead, but at this point the continued presence of John Thompson Jr. would be a huge negative to the program. Most here agree that on top of dismissing Ewing, the program needs to bring someone in from outside “the family” in order to shake up a program racked by I institutional rot. Many of us, me included, fear that DeGioia is so in thrall to the “family” that he will protect Ronny, who is and always was a complete cipher. This problem would be infinitely worse if JTJr was still around, because I cannot see DeGioia being willing to tell him he needs to take a back seat, then enforcing that.
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hoya9797
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Post by hoya9797 on Mar 2, 2023 13:46:10 GMT -5
John Thompson’s ghost is a huge problem for this team right now so I don’t think the real, living guy would be any better.
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Post by madgesiq92 on Mar 2, 2023 14:05:48 GMT -5
There have been reports that certain potential candidates were not interested in job in 2017 because they weren't comfortable with the continued presence that JT2 had in the program so it would only make things worse if he had continuing veto power over the next coach even if we had moved on from Pat.
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Post by This Just In on Mar 2, 2023 14:13:00 GMT -5
Would the result have been any different had John Thompson lived a few more years and been healthy enough to still have an impact? I'm guessing not really, but, if we're going glass half full, it's a good bet that he would have realized earlier than most that Patrick was a bad fit, and thus he might have been willing to broker a compromise departure that spared everyone's feelings while avoiding the unmitigated disaster we're seeing now. I'm not sure Patrick would have opposed this as long as he got paid. But the flipside is that John presumably would have been heavily involved in vetting Pat's replacement, perpetuating the cycle the program needs to escape. If John Thompson Jr was still around to be involved in the dismissal and hire of the next coach. The top 3 choices would be: Patrick Ewing Jr. Jonathan Wallace JTIII None would be worst than Patrick Ewing if that is goal and keeping the head coaching job as having a past connection to Georgetown. |
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Post by practice on Mar 2, 2023 14:37:54 GMT -5
Would the result have been any different had John Thompson lived a few more years and been healthy enough to still have an impact? I'm guessing not really, but, if we're going glass half full, it's a good bet that he would have realized earlier than most that Patrick was a bad fit, and thus he might have been willing to broker a compromise departure that spared everyone's feelings while avoiding the unmitigated disaster we're seeing now. I'm not sure Patrick would have opposed this as long as he got paid. But the flipside is that John presumably would have been heavily involved in vetting Pat's replacement, perpetuating the cycle the program needs to escape. If John Thompson Jr was still around to be involved in the dismissal and hire of the next coach. The top 3 choices would be: Patrick Ewing Jr. Jonathan Wallace JTIII None would be worst than Patrick Ewing if that is goal and keeping the head coaching job as having a past connection to Georgetown. I'd add Ronny to that list .... |
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Post by prhoya on Mar 2, 2023 14:57:09 GMT -5
Would the result have been any different had John Thompson lived a few more years and been healthy enough to still have an impact? I'm guessing not really, but, if we're going glass half full, it's a good bet that he would have realized earlier than most that Patrick was a bad fit, and thus he might have been willing to broker a compromise departure that spared everyone's feelings while avoiding the unmitigated disaster we're seeing now. I'm not sure Patrick would have opposed this as long as he got paid. But the flipside is that John presumably would have been heavily involved in vetting Pat's replacement, perpetuating the cycle the program needs to escape. If John Thompson Jr was still around to be involved in the dismissal and hire of the next coach. The top 3 choices would be: Patrick Ewing Jr. Jonathan Wallace JTIII None would be worst than Patrick Ewing if that is goal and keeping the head coaching job as having a past connection to Georgetown. Pick anyone off the street to coach the team and that person couldn’t have a poorer record than Pat. That’s not an exaggeration. |
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Post by Elvado on Mar 2, 2023 15:02:02 GMT -5
If John Thompson Jr was still around to be involved in the dismissal and hire of the next coach. The top 3 choices would be: Patrick Ewing Jr. Jonathan Wallace JTIII None would be worst than Patrick Ewing if that is goal and keeping the head coaching job as having a past connection to Georgetown. Pick anyone off the street to coach the team and that person couldn’t have a poorer record than Pat. That’s not an exaggeration. If only Sky King were still with us…. Or Pebbles… |
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