tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Aug 30, 2024 20:11:38 GMT -5
How could they not be enraged? I never served but my father and my grandfather did. And, I've been to Arlington Cemetery dozens of times because it's beautiful and solemn and heartbreaking and affirming and thought-provoking. As a visitor who never sacked up, I'm livid. Not just on behalf of my loved ones who did, but for every American that gives a rip about the privileges we've been provided by the spilling of blood of patriots who made the greatest sacrifice in service of an ideal of what America can be. The disrespect is beyond galling.
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Post by hoyajinx on Aug 31, 2024 4:03:02 GMT -5
Flailing and failing, Demented Don the Con. Trump contradicts himself on abortion, grasping for a winning message Donald Trump announced Friday that he would be voting against a ballot measure in his home state of Florida that would make abortion legal until a fetus becomes viable. But just a day earlier he appeared poised to do the opposite. When asked if he would vote for the measure — the only clear path to restoring abortion access in Florida, where abortion is banned after six weeks of pregnancy — he said, “I am going to be voting that we need more than six weeks.” With two months to go until the election, Trump, who has taken credit for the fall of Roe v. Wade, is sending contradictory messages as he grapples with how to handle an issue many Democrats believe will help lead them to victory in November — trying to appear more moderate on abortion than much of his party without alienating his evangelical base. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/30/trump-vance-abortion-anger/Republicans are apoplectic about Harris changing her tune on fracking after 5 years, calling her a “flip-flopper”. I’m gonna go ahead and assume that they will lose their minds when they find out Trump did the quickest flip-flop in political history on abortion. Or at least they would if they any capacity for honesty, which of course they don’t. I mean, it wasn’t even 24 hours, but it’s the their messiah so it’s totally fine.
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Post by hoyajinx on Aug 31, 2024 5:10:46 GMT -5
Oops… somebody didn’t read the article they posted. It’s a good thing you deleted it before everyone else saw it, but I was able to quote the part that destroyed your argument.
“The photo of the Bidens at the cemetery was not during a campaign, it was taken by the cemetery, as part of the official publicity of the event.”
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Post by Elvado on Aug 31, 2024 5:16:03 GMT -5
Oops… somebody didn’t read the article they posted. It’s a good thing you deleted it before everyone else saw it, but I was able to quote the part that destroyed your argument. “The photo of the Bidens at the cemetery was not during a campaign, it was taken by the cemetery, as part of the official publicity of the event.” 5/25/20. He may not remember but he was running for President. And if you think he was not campaigning, you probably believe Kamala was not tasked with the border.
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 31, 2024 5:16:29 GMT -5
Violent morons. MAGA faithful blow off polls in Michigan, insist ‘Trump’s got it made.’ Trump’s base is digging in. By Adam Wren 08/29/2024 07:45 PM EDT POTTERVILLE, Michigan — Inside a hulking steel warehouse where Donald Trump rallied his supporters on Thursday, the former president’s backers sweltered in the heat — and gave no oxygen, either, to the idea that their candidate arrived in this battleground state weakened by Kamala Harris’ ascent. None said they believed recent polling showing Trump slipping behind Harris here. Nor could they stomach the latest Fox News polling showing that, entering the crucial post-Labor Day stretch of the campaign, the vice president had improved her position over President Joe Biden against Trump in Arizona, Georgia, Nevada and North Carolina. And none could envision a world where they wake up on Nov. 6 and Trump is not the winner; if he isn’t, they say, Harris has either cheated or the election has been rigged. “The media would tell you that Harris is winning, but the heart of America will tell you that Trump’s got it made,” said Kirk Deatrick, who said he stopped trusting Fox News when the network parted ways with Tucker Carlson. He added of Democrats, “I think if they don’t cheat, I think he’ll win by a huge amount,” predicting an 80-20 margin of victory for Trump “if it was a fair and honest election, and illegal people don’t vote and they don’t use cheating.” “We need God’s help, and I’m praying he’ll transition this thing peacefully, but if not, that’s where I come in,” said 62-year-old Richard McLeod, who said he was a member of two Michigan militias. He added: “I’m standing my ground. I’m fighting ‘til I die. And I want to make the other side die for their cause.” www.politico.com/news/2024/08/29/trump-michigan-maga-faithful-polls-win-00176808
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Post by hoyajinx on Aug 31, 2024 5:26:10 GMT -5
Oops… somebody didn’t read the article they posted. It’s a good thing you deleted it before everyone else saw it, but I was able to quote the part that destroyed your argument. “The photo of the Bidens at the cemetery was not during a campaign, it was taken by the cemetery, as part of the official publicity of the event.” 5/25/20. He may not remember but he was running for President. And if you think he was not campaigning, you probably believe Kamala was not tasked with the border. What part of the “it was taken by the cemetery” was difficult to understand? Did Biden push aside ANC personnel so he could make a crass TikTok video? I’m done engaging with you. It’s a complete waste of time. You never let facts get in the way.
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Post by Elvado on Aug 31, 2024 5:28:33 GMT -5
5/25/20. He may not remember but he was running for President. And if you think he was not campaigning, you probably believe Kamala was not tasked with the border. What part of the “it was taken by the cemetery” was difficult to understand? Did Biden push aside ANC personnel so he could make a crass TikTok video? I’m done engaging with you. It’s a complete waste of time. You never let facts get in the way. What part of photo taken at Cemetery during campaign is unclear? He had no duties; he was not serving anyone; he went for political purposes.
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Post by hoyajinx on Aug 31, 2024 5:29:14 GMT -5
What part of the “it was taken by the cemetery” was difficult to understand? Did Biden push aside ANC personnel so he could make a crass TikTok video? I’m done engaging with you. It’s a complete waste of time. You never let facts get in the way. What part of photo taken at Cemetery during campaign is unclear? He had no duties; he was not serving anyone; he went for political purposes. Cool.
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Post by prhoya on Aug 31, 2024 5:33:11 GMT -5
What part of the “it was taken by the cemetery” was difficult to understand? Did Biden push aside ANC personnel so he could make a crass TikTok video? I’m done engaging with you. It’s a complete waste of time. You never let facts get in the way. What part of photo taken at Cemetery during campaign is unclear? He had no duties; he was not serving anyone; he went for political purposes. Memorial Day that year was 5/25/20. Is he not supposed to go on election year when he goes every year?
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Post by hoyajinx on Aug 31, 2024 5:37:20 GMT -5
What part of photo taken at Cemetery during campaign is unclear? He had no duties; he was not serving anyone; he went for political purposes. Memorial Day that year was 5/25/20. Is he not supposed to go on election year when he goes every year? I can’t do it with him anymore. If he doesn’t understand the difference between cemetery employees taking a picture for ANC purposes and dragging a photographer along for the purposes of making a TikTok video while assaulting ANC personnel, there’s nothing we can help do to help him. We can explain it to him, we can’t understand it for him.
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 31, 2024 5:37:30 GMT -5
What part of photo taken at Cemetery during campaign is unclear? He had no duties; he was not serving anyone; he went for political purposes. Memorial Day that year was 5/25/20. Is he not supposed to go on election year when he goes every year? You just don't get it. If Biden goes to ANC it's for a political purpose. If Demented Donnie goes, it's because he's a patriot!
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Post by Elvado on Aug 31, 2024 5:40:29 GMT -5
Memorial Day that year was 5/25/20. Is he not supposed to go on election year when he goes every year? You just don't get it. If Biden goes to ANC it's for a political purpose. If Demented Donnie goes, it's because he's a patriot! No. Exactly opposite that. They are both politicians and thus beneath contempt. Each used the cemetery as a prop for political reasons. Trump as is his wont was exponentially more crass and ham handed.
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Post by prhoya on Aug 31, 2024 5:47:06 GMT -5
You just don't get it. If Biden goes to ANC it's for a political purpose. If Demented Donnie goes, it's because he's a patriot! No. Exactly opposite that. They are both politicians and thus beneath contempt. Each used the cemetery as a prop for political reasons. Trump as is his wont was exponentially more crass and ham handed. When Trump went to ANC during his presidency on Memorial Day, I don’t remember a HTer saying it was for political purposes (even though it might have been because we know he rather be golfing instead of being reminded that he’s a 4-time draft dodger). Why whine about Biden?
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Post by Elvado on Aug 31, 2024 5:49:23 GMT -5
No. Exactly opposite that. They are both politicians and thus beneath contempt. Each used the cemetery as a prop for political reasons. Trump as is his wont was exponentially more crass and ham handed. When Trump went to ANC during his presidency on Memorial Day, I don’t remember a HTer saying it was for political purposes (even though it might have been because we know he rather be golfing instead of being reminded that he’s a 4-time draft dodger). Why whine about Biden? In this case, Biden was not President and was not Vice President. He was, wait for it, running for President.
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Post by hoyajinx on Aug 31, 2024 5:54:24 GMT -5
No. Exactly opposite that. They are both politicians and thus beneath contempt. Each used the cemetery as a prop for political reasons. Trump as is his wont was exponentially more crass and ham handed. When Trump went to ANC during his presidency on Memorial Day, I don’t remember a HTer saying it was for political purposes (even though it might have been because we know he rather be golfing instead of being reminded that he’s a 4-time draft dodger). Why whine about Biden? Going there wasn’t the problem, political or not. You can take issue with how gross it is to go there for political purposes. It was all the other circumstances surrounding it that is the huge problem here and makes this visit different than visits from literally every other president or presidential candidate.
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Post by prhoya on Aug 31, 2024 5:56:44 GMT -5
When Trump went to ANC during his presidency on Memorial Day, I don’t remember a HTer saying it was for political purposes (even though it might have been because we know he rather be golfing instead of being reminded that he’s a 4-time draft dodger). Why whine about Biden? In this case, Biden was not President and was not Vice President. He was, wait for it, running for President. Biden has been in politics for 50(?) years and Beau was an army vet. He has always honored fallen soldiers on Memorial Day. Honestly, I would think you would have a special place in your heart for Biden, who lost his son to brain cancer.
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 31, 2024 5:58:28 GMT -5
No. Exactly opposite that. They are both politicians and thus beneath contempt. Each used the cemetery as a prop for political reasons. Trump as is his wont was exponentially more crass and ham handed. When Trump went to ANC during his presidency on Memorial Day, I don’t remember a HTer saying it was for political purposes (even though it might have been because we know he rather be golfing instead of being reminded that he’s a 4-time draft dodger). Why whine about Biden? That's not right! Demented Donnie is a FIVE TIME draft dodger!
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 31, 2024 6:00:35 GMT -5
In this case, Biden was not President and was not Vice President. He was, wait for it, running for President. Biden has been in politics for 50(?) years and Beau was an army vet. He has always honored fallen soldiers on Memorial Day. Honestly, I would think you would have a special place in your heart for Biden, who lost his son to brain cancer. You still don't get it. Biden lost his son to cancer for political purposes!
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Post by prhoya on Aug 31, 2024 6:01:18 GMT -5
When Trump went to ANC during his presidency on Memorial Day, I don’t remember a HTer saying it was for political purposes (even though it might have been because we know he rather be golfing instead of being reminded that he’s a 4-time draft dodger). Why whine about Biden? Going there wasn’t the problem, political or not. You can take issue with how gross it is to go there for political purposes. It was all the other circumstances surrounding it that is the huge problem here and makes this visit different than visits from literally every other president or presidential candidate. Oh, yeah. No one goes to a cemetery to smile and do a thumbs up for a camera crew… well, except candidate Trump…
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 31, 2024 6:03:00 GMT -5
Going there wasn’t the problem, political or not. You can take issue with how gross it is to go there for political purposes. It was all the other circumstances surrounding it that is the huge problem here and makes this visit different than visits from literally every other president or presidential candidate. Oh, yeah. No one goes to a cemetery to smile and do a thumbs up for a camera crew… well, except candidate Trump… And have his campaign post a Tik Tok video of it! Elvado is simply immune to facts and reason. Arlington Cemetery staff dealt directly with Mast’s chief of staff, James Langenderfer, briefing him extensively on the rules, which include no campaign events at the cemetery. They also reiterated that only an official Arlington National Cemetery photographer — and no campaign photographer — could be used at Section 60, the location of the recent American war dead. The source said Langenderfer told them the Trump campaign agreed to these rules. NPR reached out to Mast’s staff and asked if Langenderfer was briefed and relayed that information to the Trump campaign. They did not address the questions but instead released a statement. In the statement to NPR, Mast said: "President Trump conducted no politics at Arlington National Cemetery." The statement comes a day after Trump shared a TikTok video including footage from Arlington National Cemetery that likely violates a federal law against using military cemeteries for campaigning purposes. www.npr.org/2024/08/29/nx-s1-5092087/trump-arlington-cemetery-altercation-video
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