DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 23, 2024 7:21:13 GMT -5
This woman is a hell of a lot more qualified than many would have you believe.
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 23, 2024 8:19:08 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 23, 2024 8:21:19 GMT -5
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hoyajinx
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Post by hoyajinx on Aug 23, 2024 8:49:03 GMT -5
I watched the focus group. Unsurprisingly, the one voting for Trump made very little sense in why he chose Trump. His big thing was “she’s just not ready yet” whatever that means. He said she wasn’t specific enough on policy. Apparently Trump’s “don’t worry how, but I’ll fix it” is the type of specificity he was looking for in an acceptance speech.
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Post by Massholya on Aug 23, 2024 8:56:49 GMT -5
I watched the focus group. Unsurprisingly, the one voting for Trump made very little sense in why he chose Trump. His big thing was “she’s just not ready yet” whatever that means. He said she wasn’t specific enough on policy. Apparently Trump’s “don’t worry how, but I’ll fix it” is the type of specificity he was looking for in an acceptance speech. I don’t believe there’s such a thing as an “undecided” who then chooses Trump. These people are just mis-representing themselves and were planning to vote Trump all along.
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Post by hoyajinx on Aug 23, 2024 9:02:15 GMT -5
I watched the focus group. Unsurprisingly, the one voting for Trump made very little sense in why he chose Trump. His big thing was “she’s just not ready yet” whatever that means. He said she wasn’t specific enough on policy. Apparently Trump’s “don’t worry how, but I’ll fix it” is the type of specificity he was looking for in an acceptance speech. I don’t believe there’s such a thing as an “undecided” who then chooses Trump. These people are just mis-representing themselves and were planning to vote Trump all along. Agree 100%. You know what you’re getting with him. If her speech didn’t sway that voter, there was literally nothing that she could have said that would have. At least the one who said she probably wasn’t going to vote also said that at the outset. That position makes far more sense than saying you’re undecided, then going to Trump.
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Post by Massholya on Aug 23, 2024 9:29:20 GMT -5
www.cnn.com/2024/08/23/politics/trump-businesses-campaign-spending-invs/index.htmlI still find it strange that these folks continue to let themselves be conned. It is certainly the greatest con in the history of the world. I have to give him that. He is actually,perhaps, the greatest conman ever to have lived. He doesn’t even have to try to hide it at this point because they refuse to allow it into their data stream.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Aug 23, 2024 12:29:58 GMT -5
I still find it strange that these folks continue to let themselves be conned. It is certainly the greatest con in the history of the world. I have to give him that. He is actually,perhaps, the greatest conman ever to have lived. He doesn’t even have to try to hide it at this point because they refuse to allow it into their data stream. There are three levels to the con game, with some phrases once left to carnivals and pre-Internet wrestling fans: the marks, the smarts, and the smarks. Donald Trump is no judge of character but picked up some of the confidence game from Vince McMahon Jr., longtime friend and former WWE promoter. Old time wrestling was built on a cosplay of good (mostly local and regional performers, almost all white men) prevailing versus evil (often cast as foreigners, minorities, or rich guys). This appealed to audiences which didn't understand the same show, with the same finish, would be repeated the next night at another town down the road, and no one (well, almost no one) clued them in. It's not that they were stupid but that it gave them a chance to see a fight knowing that "good" would eventually triumph. The "marks" would believe it because they had no reason not to. Trump didn't create the modern Republican Party but took advantage of its structural instability: it was increasingly rural (e.g., not a lot of Nelson Rockefellers and John Lindsays in the GOP anymore), moved away from its urban Catholic and Jewish bases in favor of evangelicals that were once Democrats, and began to appeal directly to lower income, high school educated white voters who had largely been abandoned or outright ridiculed by the Democratic party, when the Democrats cared less about rural, suburban, or faith issues in its conversion to a urban/high income party on the coasts. Trump and those that preceded him in the Tea Party played to the con that only "they" could save the masses from the "evil" (read= foreigners, minorities, or rich guys) which had "ruined" the America they grew up in. There were still some grow-ups on the national stage which tamped this down (Romney, McCain, etc.) but time was not on their side and the marks would vote them out if they didn't get in line. More perfidious are the smarts: those that know the con and make money off it. There aren't a lot of rural, high school educated evangelicals at Fox News, quite the opposite. Tucker Carlson, late of Fox, was the son of the former president of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, his stepmother was an heiress to the Swanson's Food fortune, and was educated in Switzerland, St. George's School, and Trinity College. Jesse Watters, the latest such Fox provocateur, grew up in Germantown, PA, educated at Penn Charter and Trinity College. His relatives were publishers of magazines such as Better Homes & Gardens and the Saturday Evening Post. Laura Ingraham went to Dartmouth, Brit Hume went to high school at St. Alban's, and the Murdoch sons went to Harvard and Princeton. These are not marks. They are all very well educated. They are in on the con and will ride it for the money. (In a variation on this theme, Greg Gutfeld (BA, Berkeley) hosts a nighttime opinion show. One of his regular guests is a retired wrestler.) Then there are the smarks, the so-called "smart marks" who know it's a con but are entertained anyway. Social media has eviscerated any remaining WWE fans who don't get the plot, and as such they know that Roman Reigns is not a "tribal chief" but Joe Anoa'i, a Georgia Tech grad and a father of five. Nearly a third of the talent are women and building a fan base on Instagram is as important than what they do at the shows, as 40 percent of the WWE audience is now women. The fans get that matches are scripted (ACL tears and concussions are unfortunately real) but it's all part of the act--however, if the act gets too silly or downright offensive fans stop watching, which happened more than once to McMahon oved the years before he sold the company to Endeavor, which also owns the UFC and the college broadcasts of Learfield Sports. Netflix didn't sign a 10 year, $5 billion deal with WWE for the marks. The Harris campaign can't change the marks that show up at the rallies and say that Trump "is still real to us", nor the smarts at Fox who laugh at Trump behind his back but still cash the checks from the con. The audience that is entertained by Trump but grows tired of his childish and increasingly unstable antics represent a segment ripe for the taking. www.psychopac.org/donald-trump-is-a-narcissist-and-a-sociopath-heres-the-proof/
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 23, 2024 19:29:24 GMT -5
This fact should trigger Demented Donnie but he'll probably say the ratings are rigged. George Conway with his Anti-psycho PAC should create an ad to troll him. Democratic convention beat RNC in TV ratings, despite some late nights More than 26.2 million people watched the fourth and final night of the Democratic National Convention on Thursday — edging out the 25.4 million who watched the Republicans’ televised finale last month, according to newly released figures from Nielsen. The audience measurement service found consistently higher viewership for the Democratic event than its GOP counterpart over the equivalent four days they aired. And despite programming that tended to run long and late, viewers by and large stuck around to watch the main event. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/22/dnc-tv-ratings-rnc-conventions/www.psychopac.org/
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 23, 2024 20:48:30 GMT -5
I watched the focus group. Unsurprisingly, the one voting for Trump made very little sense in why he chose Trump. His big thing was “she’s just not ready yet” whatever that means. He said she wasn’t specific enough on policy. Apparently Trump’s “don’t worry how, but I’ll fix it” is the type of specificity he was looking for in an acceptance speech. I don’t believe there’s such a thing as an “undecided” who then chooses Trump. These people are just mis-representing themselves and were planning to vote Trump all along.
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 23, 2024 20:56:23 GMT -5
When you've been accurately tagged with the label "weird" do you think it is helpful to accept an endorsement and have on stage a guy whose brain has been eaten by a worm and staged a bizarre death of a bear cub in Central Park? Just wondering. . . The party/cult of weirdo, freaks and insurrectionists. And Vance in a doughnut shop? Priceless. In the video that was captured by CSPAN and posted on X by NBC News reporter Carl Quintanilla, Vance approaches one of the employees at the donut shop and says, "I'm JD Vance. I'm running for vice president," for which the employee looks a little puzzled and responds, "Okay." Vance then tries to make small talk with the employees while ordering donuts, during which one of the employees at the donut shop tells the camera crew that she does not want to be filmed. www.11alive.com/article/news/politics/national-politics/jd-vance-awkward-visit-georgia-donut-shop/85-8f0ea315-0744-4907-9c2c-ee8898057c4bx.com/carlquintanilla/status/1826678117781688807
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 23, 2024 21:25:16 GMT -5
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Post by Massholya on Aug 23, 2024 21:28:44 GMT -5
I don’t believe there’s such a thing as an “undecided” who then chooses Trump. These people are just mis-representing themselves and were planning to vote Trump all along. Shocking. Nice job CNN.
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 24, 2024 8:08:08 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 24, 2024 8:16:38 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 24, 2024 8:19:14 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 24, 2024 8:51:35 GMT -5
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Post by tashoya on Aug 24, 2024 9:29:34 GMT -5
Cohen may not be correct but, the simple fact that you can't write this off as entirely ridiculous or impossible, is reason enough to vote for anyone else.
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Post by tashoya on Aug 24, 2024 9:31:33 GMT -5
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