DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 21, 2024 14:32:22 GMT -5
Your take on Biden is straight from the Fox News script. My goodness what load of BS, with all due respect. So they have not covered up his slipping? He won’t pardon his son? Please… Don’t worry, I’m not getting in a debate with you over this. God forbid one of your children ever makes a mistake.
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Post by Elvado on Jul 21, 2024 14:37:08 GMT -5
So they have not covered up his slipping? He won’t pardon his son? Please… Don’t worry, I’m not getting in a debate with you over this. God forbid one of your children ever makes a mistake. They have made plenty and will make more. Likely not as many as I have.
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Post by Massholya on Jul 21, 2024 15:09:33 GMT -5
Imagine a political party that is able to convince its designated leader that stepping down from power is the right thing to do and he does it. Why would he do that? Aren’t they supposed to just keep saying how great he is and what an amazing person he is. I mean I just watched this convention where they spent four days saying their nominee was essentially a god incarnate. What’s going on here?! This guy Biden must be a true patriot or something. George Washington would be very proud.
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Post by SSHoya on Jul 21, 2024 20:22:08 GMT -5
President Joe Biden has chosen to put his country over his own ego, a heroic decision that shows the difference between a political party and a cult of personality. Of course, if the nominee is Harris, the Republicans will go into culture-war overdrive. They will say that as a Californian, she is too liberal. They will say that as a former prosecutor, she is too conservative. They will say that she is too female and too Black. (Well, they won’t say those last two out loud, but get ready for a fusillade of dog whistles that will be amped up to the point that they could shatter granite.) After today the difference between the Democrats and the Republicans could not be clearer. Biden faces challenges of age that are not going to get any easier. His decision to make way for a younger candidate reaffirmed that his party is not about one man. Trump, meanwhile, continues to bellow gibberish at his rallies, raving like the emotionally unstable, would-be dictator that he is. www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2024/07/a-candidate-not-a-cult-leader/679182/
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Post by prhoya on Jul 21, 2024 23:08:18 GMT -5
So, are you voting for Kamala or Trump?
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Post by hoyaguy on Jul 21, 2024 23:46:38 GMT -5
Seemed like the appropriate decision given the train wreck of a debate that had me questioning my sanity while listening to both candidates on the radio. As someone who is left of the democrats (or at least most of them), I was very disappointed with how they handled this whole situation with some just trying to sweep it under the rug and others attacking anyone who dared to question Biden's ability to continue serving. His administration has done some good stuff no doubt, but an election is different especially in these circumstances. I hope they make the right choice to replace him and a good VP that can crush Vance in a debate especially by bringing up his stance on reproductive rights. I just hope the democrats have learned some lessons over the past 10 years and today is a bit of proof they have. And despite it taking the words and pressures of donors, reps, senators, a horrendous debate performance, etc to get Biden to drop out, I am glad we are not going to see another politician cling to power until they are barely functioning and away from their family. Overall a very ummm interesting man who offered a more steady hand than his predecessor and taught me that as a poor kid, I could be just as bright as the white kids! We gotta laugh because if we don't then our political situation is just depressing. One thing is for sure, it just got a lot more interesting.
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Post by hoyajinx on Jul 22, 2024 4:40:42 GMT -5
Despite all their intent to project confidence, there is one thing that is absolutely certain: Republicans are now scared. The breathlessness with which they are trying to frame Biden dropping out as anti-democratic, threatening law suits, and claiming that nothing has changed is a huge a tell. Their convention of lies and Trump worship is over, and now all the focus will be on the Democratic Convention. This is a huge opportunity to sell an alternative vision for the country than the dystopian hellscape Republicans are offering. Trump was nearly assassinated just a week ago and that’s already old news. Things move fast, and Democrats need to take advantage of that. Democrats have squandered enormous opportunities in the past, they best not do that when they have the temporary narrative advantage.
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Post by Elvado on Jul 22, 2024 5:43:20 GMT -5
Despite all their intent to project confidence, there is one thing that is absolutely certain: Republicans are now scared. The breathlessness with which they are trying to frame Biden dropping out as anti-democratic, threatening law suits, and claiming that nothing has changed is a huge a tell. Their convention of lies and Trump worship is over, and now all the focus will be on the Democratic Convention. This is a huge opportunity to sell an alternative vision for the country than the dystopian hellscape Republicans are offering. Trump was nearly assassinated just a week ago and that’s already old news. Things move fast, and Democrats need to take advantage of that. Democrats have squandered enormous opportunities in the past, they best not do that when they have the temporary narrative advantage. Kamala Harris has spent three and a half years failing her way to the top. A far cry from underneath Willie Brown…
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Post by hoyajinx on Jul 22, 2024 5:47:47 GMT -5
Despite all their intent to project confidence, there is one thing that is absolutely certain: Republicans are now scared. The breathlessness with which they are trying to frame Biden dropping out as anti-democratic, threatening law suits, and claiming that nothing has changed is a huge a tell. Their convention of lies and Trump worship is over, and now all the focus will be on the Democratic Convention. This is a huge opportunity to sell an alternative vision for the country than the dystopian hellscape Republicans are offering. Trump was nearly assassinated just a week ago and that’s already old news. Things move fast, and Democrats need to take advantage of that. Democrats have squandered enormous opportunities in the past, they best not do that when they have the temporary narrative advantage. Kamala Harris has spent three and a half years failing her way to the top. A far cry from underneath Willie Brown… Trump has spent a lifetime of privilege failing and conning his way to the top. So in terms of being a failure, Trump wins in a landslide.
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Post by Elvado on Jul 22, 2024 5:49:28 GMT -5
Kamala Harris has spent three and a half years failing her way to the top. A far cry from underneath Willie Brown… Trump has spent a lifetime of privilege failing and conning his way to the top. So in terms of being a failure, Trump wins in a landslide. How about starting a career laying under a political boss 30 years her senior? Good messaging? Admirable?
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 22, 2024 5:54:38 GMT -5
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Post by hoyajinx on Jul 22, 2024 5:54:41 GMT -5
Trump has spent a lifetime of privilege failing and conning his way to the top. So in terms of being a failure, Trump wins in a landslide. How about starting a career laying under a political boss 30 years her senior? Good messaging? Admirable? Are we really gonna get into an argument about “admirable”? Your guy is a rapist, a felon, an adulterer, an insurrectionist, and found liable for massive fraud, so spare me the pearl-clutching about messaging or being admirable. It’s so profoundly hollow. We know you are terrified of women and people of color being in power, so just be honest and come out and say it.
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Post by Elvado on Jul 22, 2024 5:58:13 GMT -5
How about starting a career laying under a political boss 30 years her senior? Good messaging? Admirable? Are we really gonna get into an argument about “admirable”? Your guy is a rapist, a felon, an adulterer, an insurrectionist, and found liable for massive fraud, so spare me the pearl-clutching about messaging or being admirable. It’s so profoundly hollow. We know you are terrified of women and people of color being in power, so just be honest and come out and say it. Democrats in power., especially those who have failed as spectacularly as Biden/Harris. Call me racist and misogynist all you like. I will not vote for either major party ticket because neither is qualified. You?
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Post by hoyajinx on Jul 22, 2024 6:06:16 GMT -5
Are we really gonna get into an argument about “admirable”? Your guy is a rapist, a felon, an adulterer, an insurrectionist, and found liable for massive fraud, so spare me the pearl-clutching about messaging or being admirable. It’s so profoundly hollow. We know you are terrified of women and people of color being in power, so just be honest and come out and say it. Democrats in power., especially those who have failed as spectacularly as Biden/Harris. Call me racist and misogynist all you like. I will not vote for either major party ticket because neither is qualified. You? I will vote for anybody who will prevent Trump from being president and voting for a third party undermines that. I will vote for whoever is on the Democratic ticket. If they dig up JFK’s corpse and put him at the top, I’ll vote for it. Trump is antithetical to everything I value, so I will vote for anyone or anything that is less so.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 22, 2024 6:09:12 GMT -5
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Post by Elvado on Jul 22, 2024 6:09:45 GMT -5
Democrats in power., especially those who have failed as spectacularly as Biden/Harris. Call me racist and misogynist all you like. I will not vote for either major party ticket because neither is qualified. You? I will vote for anybody who will prevent Trump from being president and voting for a third party undermines that. I will vote for whoever is on the Democratic ticket. If they dig up JFK’s corpse and put him at the top, I’ll vote for it. Trump is antithetical to everything I value, so I will vote for anyone or anything that is less so. Good for you. I can’t vote for either party because they care only for power and longevity. .
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 22, 2024 6:11:34 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 22, 2024 6:27:23 GMT -5
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Post by prhoya on Jul 22, 2024 6:39:23 GMT -5
I will vote for anybody who will prevent Trump from being president and voting for a third party undermines that. I will vote for whoever is on the Democratic ticket. If they dig up JFK’s corpse and put him at the top, I’ll vote for it. Trump is antithetical to everything I value, so I will vote for anyone or anything that is less so. Good for you. I can’t vote for either party because they care only for power and longevity. . RFK Jr? How’s your wallet these days? Trump likes to use the stock market as his “main economic indicator”. I would think you would be happy with its performance under Biden/Harris.
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Post by EtomicB on Jul 22, 2024 8:20:41 GMT -5
Trump has spent a lifetime of privilege failing and conning his way to the top. So in terms of being a failure, Trump wins in a landslide. How about starting a career laying under a political boss 30 years her senior? Good messaging? Admirable? Even if this were true, a grown man slut shaming on a message board is a terrible look.. Smh.. Harris started her career as a DA in 1990... www.reuters.com/article/world/fact-check-kamala-harrisandwillie-brownhad-a-relationshipover-adecadeafte-idUSKBN26Y2RJ/Kamala Harris did have a relationship with Willie Brown, who later served as San Francisco’s mayor, between 1994 and 1995 ( here Los Angeles Times first linked the pair in 1994 ( here her career in the Alameda County District Attorney's Office ( here 29 and Brown, speaker of the California State Assembly ( here;), was 60 ( here; Although Brown was legally married at the time, he had reportedly been estranged from his wife, Blanche Brown, since 1981, according to People magazine ( here;As reported ( here;) by the San Francisco Chronicle, Harris and Brown broke up in 1995. On Dec. 26, 1995, reporter Herb Caen wrote in his daily column that the couple had split, adding the “news came as a shock to many, including those who found Kamala Harris attractive, intelligent and charming.”
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