2022-23 Schedule Talk

[hoyainla]

Jul 26, 2022 15:36:32 GMT -5 hoyaboya said:

The other thing about this schedule - it will take an absolute marketing wizard to get more than 8,000 fans to attend any of these home games. Northwestern on Tuesday, 11/15 and South Carolina on Saturday, 12/3 are the only decent games for home fans to watch. Based on last year's attendance, I'd guess we're looking at between 4K - 7K for most of the non-conference home games.

This is not getting enough attention. It's one thing to talk about the wins and losses but those will play out how they will regardless. This schedule does us no favors with our tournament hopes and that should be the ultimate goal. That clearly isnt the case so at least work on the biggest problem. What the basketball department clearly doesn't understand and/or care about is that the fanbase is uninspired at best right now. Why not start there and try to get butts in the seats? Our record as it relates to the future of the program clearly is meaningless as was proven this year. Why are they so worried about stacking meaningless wins? It seems that getting interest/money making should be a little higher on the priority list. Would they really rather have a cucpake win in front of 2000 than a good less in front of 12000? The incompetency of this program continues to reach new lows.

[hoyaguy]

Jul 27, 2022 21:06:15 GMT -5 hoyaboya said:

About wanting the non conf to be equal to the BE had me genuinely laughing, so I hope he was actually joking and doesn't really see it this way

[prhoya]

Jul 27, 2022 21:06:15 GMT -5 hoyaboya said:

Is he out of touch, kidding or just doesn’t know?

[bigskyhoya]

Jul 27, 2022 23:17:38 GMT -5 prhoya said:

Jul 27, 2022 21:06:15 GMT -5 hoyaboya said:

Is he out of touch, kidding or just doesn’t know?

In the sales world it’s called puffing.

[TC]

Jul 27, 2022 21:06:15 GMT -5 hoyaboya said:

What a bunch of nonsense. You can't hide the fact that you put together a weak schedule.

[dchoya72]

Im glad he doesnt spend his time, or energy responding to the peanut gallery! If the team wins, you wont be happy, but rather backseat coaching. And if they win you'll be appeased for a moment and then doubling down on your criticism. I believe he wants to win more than anybody! But continue with your right to critcize, but you are not in the arena with blood, sweat,and tears!!

[dchoya72]

I'm glad he doesn't spend his time, or energy responding to the peanut gallery! If the team wins, you won't be happy, but rather backseat coaching. And if they win, you'll be appeased for a moment and then doubling down on your criticism. I believe he wants to win more than anybody on this board or in the seats! But continue with your right to critcize,however you are not in the arena with blood, sweat,and tears!!

[hoyasaxa2003]

Jul 27, 2022 23:17:38 GMT -5 prhoya said:

Jul 27, 2022 21:06:15 GMT -5 hoyaboya said:

Is he out of touch, kidding or just doesn’t know?

This is just illustrative of the problem. Ewing is given opportunity after opportunity (well more than most coaches) to prove himself as a coach. And, his defenders come onto HoyaTalk saying this schedule was not put together with an expectation of getting to the NCAA tournament, but rather to make progress from last year. And then Ewing comes out, says what he says about the schedule, and totally blows up the explanation his defenders put forth.

Frankly, statements like this make Ewing sound clueless. He's doing himself no favors. I'll grant him that Texas Tech is a good game. But, Northwestern finished 87th on KenPom last year, and it's a home game for us. That's not a tough game (or shouldn't be - they might be better than us, in which case, it could be a tough game, but I'd hope we'd be minor favorites, at least).

[conshyhoya]

Jul 28, 2022 13:14:35 GMT -5 hoyasaxa2003 said:

Jul 27, 2022 23:17:38 GMT -5 prhoya said:

Is he out of touch, kidding or just doesn’t know?

This is just illustrative of the problem. Ewing is given opportunity after opportunity (well more than most coaches) to prove himself as a coach. And, his defenders come onto HoyaTalk saying this schedule was not put together with an expectation of getting to the NCAA tournament, but rather to make progress from last year. And then Ewing comes out, says what he says about the schedule, and totally blows up the explanation his defenders put forth.

Frankly, statements like this make Ewing sound clueless. He's doing himself no favors. I'll grant him that Texas Tech is a good game. But, Northwestern finished 87th on KenPom last year, and it's a home game for us. That's not a tough game (or shouldn't be - they might be better than us, in which case, it could be a tough game, but I'd hope we'd be minor favorites, at least).

Northwestern isn't even a game he scheduled as that was given to us for the conference challenges. I'm sure you can find numerous other examples on this schedule like his buddy/buddy scheduling of Coppin State. I'm guessing as long as Ewing and Dixon are the HCs that game will happen. The Northwestern game isn't the problem here. It is having one decent home weekend opponent who probably will be better than last year but then no one else. Green Bay was part of the weaker tournament we are in so ok if you know you are playing in that tournament get rid of Siena and add a top 40ish team that will be Quad 1 or 2. Someone that you have a chance to beat similar to a team like Cuse. Maryland would have been a good one here or Ole Miss, Cincinnati, Rutgers etc. You take away Siena and say Coppin State and add two of them and even though you don't have any great teams outside the BE opponents and TT you have a handful of games that will be close winnable games. TCU last year was a good example of the type of team I'm talking about even though that was a conference challenge. South Carolina this year would be another good one.

[hoya73]

Jul 28, 2022 14:44:56 GMT -5 conshyhoya said:

Jul 28, 2022 13:14:35 GMT -5 hoyasaxa2003 said:

This is just illustrative of the problem. Ewing is given opportunity after opportunity (well more than most coaches) to prove himself as a coach. And, his defenders come onto HoyaTalk saying this schedule was not put together with an expectation of getting to the NCAA tournament, but rather to make progress from last year. And then Ewing comes out, says what he says about the schedule, and totally blows up the explanation his defenders put forth.

Frankly, statements like this make Ewing sound clueless. He's doing himself no favors. I'll grant him that Texas Tech is a good game. But, Northwestern finished 87th on KenPom last year, and it's a home game for us. That's not a tough game (or shouldn't be - they might be better than us, in which case, it could be a tough game, but I'd hope we'd be minor favorites, at least).

Northwestern isn't even a game he scheduled as that was given to us for the conference challenges. I'm sure you can find numerous other examples on this schedule like his buddy/buddy scheduling of Coppin State. I'm guessing as long as Ewing and Dixon are the HCs that game will happen. The Northwestern game isn't the problem here. It is having one decent home weekend opponent who probably will be better than last year but then no one else. Green Bay was part of the weaker tournament we are in so ok if you know you are playing in that tournament get rid of Siena and add a top 40ish team that will be Quad 1 or 2. Someone that you have a chance to beat similar to a team like Cuse. Maryland would have been a good one here or Ole Miss, Cincinnati, Rutgers etc. You take away Siena and say Coppin State and add two of them and even though you don't have any great teams outside the BE opponents and TT you have a handful of games that will be close winnable games. TCU last year was a good example of the type of team I'm talking about even though that was a conference challenge.

"South Carolina this year would be another good one"

Do we not play South Carolna this year? Thought we did.

[conshyhoya]

Jul 28, 2022 15:35:39 GMT -5 hoya73 said:

Jul 28, 2022 14:44:56 GMT -5 conshyhoya said:

Northwestern isn't even a game he scheduled as that was given to us for the conference challenges. I'm sure you can find numerous other examples on this schedule like his buddy/buddy scheduling of Coppin State. I'm guessing as long as Ewing and Dixon are the HCs that game will happen. The Northwestern game isn't the problem here. It is having one decent home weekend opponent who probably will be better than last year but then no one else. Green Bay was part of the weaker tournament we are in so ok if you know you are playing in that tournament get rid of Siena and add a top 40ish team that will be Quad 1 or 2. Someone that you have a chance to beat similar to a team like Cuse. Maryland would have been a good one here or Ole Miss, Cincinnati, Rutgers etc. You take away Siena and say Coppin State and add two of them and even though you don't have any great teams outside the BE opponents and TT you have a handful of games that will be close winnable games. TCU last year was a good example of the type of team I'm talking about even though that was a conference challenge.

"South Carolina this year would be another good one"

Do we not play South Carolna this year? Thought we did.

We do play them. I'm saying this is a good example of a type of team we should play. A team that is probably not top 25 but winnable and rising team, probably will be a better team than initially thought so will be Q1 or Q2 win if we win.

[hoyaboya]

Jul 28, 2022 16:57:07 GMT -5 conshyhoya said:

Jul 28, 2022 15:35:39 GMT -5 hoya73 said:

We do play them. I'm saying this is a good example of a type of team we should play. A team that is probably not top 25 but winnable and rising team, probably will be a better team than initially thought so will be Q1 or Q2 win if we win.

Beating South Carolina at home will not be a Q1 win. GG Jackson is good but he's not taking them from Bart Torvik 136 to top 50.

[hoya9797]

Jul 28, 2022 13:14:35 GMT -5 hoyasaxa2003 said:

Frankly, statements like this make Ewing sound clueless.

Evergreen statement

[guru]

Boy are the bots out in force today.

[hoyarooter]

I'm not sure I understand the criticism of Ewing's statement. After all, Seton Hall = Coppin State, and Creighton = American, right? Seems the same to me.

[blueandgray]

Ewing isn’t artful when it comes to trying to spin. He should have some sort of prepared statement….ie “our job is to win games this year no matter who or where we play. We do that and the rest will take care of itself”.

[daveg023]

Jul 28, 2022 22:32:26 GMT -5 blueandgray said:

Ewing isn’t artful when it comes to trying to spin. He should have some sort of prepared statement….ie “our job is to win games this year no matter who or where we play. We do that and the rest will take care of itself”.

He's his worst enemy sometimes with these things...

My one gripe remains the Jamaica Classic.  If we are in a better MTE instead of GB, Loyola, Wake/Lasalle, we'd be getting 3 better games.  I am not sure when we committed we knew who else was going to be in it, but it fits a pattern that since Ewing has been here we have been in some very weak MTEs.  Unfortunately the only two times we were in a stronger field we bowed out of the PK80 and we had the Wooden Classic cancelled (UCLA, Kansas, UVA) on us.

Here's the fields of some of the events on ESPN:

www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/34296910/your-guide-seven-early-season-2022-23-men-college-basketball-tournaments

Any of these events (sans maybe the Hawaii one) would be a massive improvement over Jamaica, and would lead to a schedule I'd find totally acceptable.

[conshyhoya]

Jul 28, 2022 17:32:07 GMT -5 hoyaboya said:

Jul 28, 2022 16:57:07 GMT -5 conshyhoya said:

Beating South Carolina at home will not be a Q1 win. GG Jackson is good but he's not taking them from Bart Torvik 136 to top 50.

I said Quad 1 or 2 and you said the same about TCU not being any good last year and were completely wrong. We don't know how any team truly will be but they shouldn't be a mark against us for playing them.

[practice]

Ewing thinks that 20 wins = job security. He totally ignores the Quad system, strength of schedule, etc. He either thinks the fans fools or is one himself ... or maybe both!

[hoya73]

Jul 29, 2022 5:34:32 GMT -5 daveg023 said:

Jul 28, 2022 22:32:26 GMT -5 blueandgray said:

Ewing isn’t artful when it comes to trying to spin. He should have some sort of prepared statement….ie “our job is to win games this year no matter who or where we play. We do that and the rest will take care of itself”.

He's his worst enemy sometimes with these things...

My one gripe remains the Jamaica Classic.  If we are in a better MTE instead of GB, Loyola, Wake/Lasalle, we'd be getting 3 better games.  I am not sure when we committed we knew who else was going to be in it, but it fits a pattern that since Ewing has been here we have been in some very weak MTEs.  Unfortunately the only two times we were in a stronger field we bowed out of the PK80 and we had the Wooden Classic cancelled (UCLA, Kansas, UVA) on us.

Here's the fields of some of the events on ESPN:

www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/34296910/your-guide-seven-early-season-2022-23-men-college-basketball-tournaments

Any of these events (sans maybe the Hawaii one) would be a massive improvement over Jamaica, and would lead to a schedule I'd find totally acceptable.

Not wanting to come off as a negative guy, and one of the most negative has also criticized our being in the Jamaica tournament, but... do you really believe a team that went 0-20 in the BE last year had an offer for a significantly better tournament?