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Post by professorhoya on Dec 3, 2021 18:52:58 GMT -5
They can't seem to stop going after cheaters.
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Post by daveg023 on Dec 3, 2021 18:58:12 GMT -5
They can't seem to stop going after cheaters. Maryland is considered a top 15 job nationally by many in college basketball and a consensus top-five job in the Big Ten. The Terrapins are the most recent Big Ten program to win a national championship, in 2002, although Maryland was still in the ACC at the time.
The biggest advantage the Terrapins have is their fertile recruiting ground; the D.C.-Maryland-Virginia area might be the most talent-rich recruiting base in the country. On top of that, Maryland has tradition, it has an energetic fan base that cares about basketball and it has a great home-court environment.
There aren't too many negatives to the job, outside of its location being far from the Big Ten's geographic footprint and the fact the school doesn't have the resources of some of the league's biggest programs. But if the Terrapins hire the right coach who can keep the DMV's best recruits home for school, they have a chance to be a consistent Big Ten contender at the top of the standings. Feel like you can replace Maryland for Georgetown in the above and Big East for Big Ten, and most of this rings true (except the fan base / home court advantage).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2021 19:01:36 GMT -5
Ed Cooley!
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Post by daveg023 on Dec 3, 2021 19:03:47 GMT -5
Once Cooley turned down the Michigan job I think the ship sailed on him ever leaving PC. To me he's there through his recent extension which I think runs through like 2028 or something. So long as they make the tournament every other year or so, they won't push him out of town and he can comfortably stay there. He makes like $3-4 million there and he has a ton a goodwill going for him.
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Post by prhoya on Dec 3, 2021 19:07:16 GMT -5
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Post by terphoya on Dec 3, 2021 19:10:06 GMT -5
Or the one who was first team all-WCAC? Not 2021 Aminu played for Boo Williams AAU during the summers which is only open for players that live in the DMV. Look at his bio and see where it says he’s from. He’s a local recruit.
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Post by saxagael on Dec 3, 2021 19:52:21 GMT -5
Agreed, the best case for us is that Maryland has a coach who focuses his recruiting nationally instead of locally, and who is just good enough to not get fired. Turgeon and staff did pull some solid local players over the years, but he was certainly not the worst case scenario for us. Will be interesting to see where this goes. Meanwhile we have at least one open spot on the roster after King's departure and they have at least a couple players worth a look (and that we recruited previously). Lol, do we take Q back? Or did he use up his one free transfer. Free transfer is used up, the basic piece is mid-year transfers can't play on two teams has to sit out until the next season if they played at all. NCAA hasn't let that one slide at all.
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Post by the_way on Dec 3, 2021 19:54:12 GMT -5
Beilein probably won't get hired, but he is one of the best college coaches.
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Post by saxagael on Dec 3, 2021 19:59:01 GMT -5
They can't seem to stop going after cheaters. There are 10 or 12 names on the list and two get picked out, who are least likely as they are under investigation? The list is basically just good coaches that potentially could move, not on bit of that list came from Maryland. The last two ADs at University of Maryland have been working hard to clean up problems in the athletic programs and get be self sustaining, if not contributing to the University's budget (the underlying reason behind the move out of the ACC, for football money). Given the athletic program is trying to get better with the budget from mess of the AD before Anderson, having $5 million of dead money goes against what they have been trying to do.
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Post by saxagael on Dec 3, 2021 20:05:09 GMT -5
HA! All of you are right about Georgetown not being able to recruit local 5 star players too, but there's a larger margin for error when Maryland is in the same boat One might point out the obvious that Georgetown LITERALLY has a local 5* on its current roster (Aminu). There are two players, but both moved away 5 to 7 years ago and haven't had a home in the DMV, Aminu and Dante. Then you have Carey too. All three left the area, but are back. If you spend any time talking to local players in the last 5 to 10 years nearly all of them say one thing, I want to go to college away from home. Recruiting doesn't fix that. Many of the local WaPo All Met players have said they would have made the same decision to leave the area for college, hands down. But, many also say if something happened and they needed to be home (Pandemic has had a lot of players thinking about this losing relatives) they would play and Georgetown is the program they would want to play at. But, at the end of the day they are happy as all get out to be in college hundreds or thousands of miles away from home.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2021 20:07:00 GMT -5
Once Cooley turned down the Michigan job I think the ship sailed on him ever leaving PC. To me he's there through his recent extension which I think runs through like 2028 or something. So long as they make the tournament every other year or so, they won't push him out of town and he can comfortably stay there. He makes like $3-4 million there and he has a ton a goodwill going for him. Agreed. I just thought it was odd he was listed haha.
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Post by professorhoya on Dec 3, 2021 20:07:10 GMT -5
Lol, do we take Q back? Or did he use up his one free transfer. Free transfer is used up, the basic piece is mid-year transfers can't play on two teams has to sit out until the next season if they played at all. NCAA hasn't let that one slide at all. I think the real mistake by the admin/school was to suspend Tre King before the season. I guess if he had played one game and then was booted for the semester, then he would've had to stay at Georgetown. If this had happened early in the summer there still would have been time to get another piece. Really it was just awful timing.
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Post by saxagael on Dec 3, 2021 20:10:11 GMT -5
Free transfer rule just means you don't need a waiver. But I could see Q pretty easily getting a waiver, if he went back to his former coach on top of his current coach having stepped down. Did he burn any bridges with Ewing or his teammates on the way out? It didn't sounds like his teammates were pleased with his leaving. There could be bad chemistry issues with players. Why and how he did it, didn't go down well. The decision sounds like it was made in January, but he stuck out the season, which is a good thing. Yet players still with the team weren't happy about it and that gets passed down to new players.
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Post by saxagael on Dec 3, 2021 20:11:49 GMT -5
Or the one who was first team all-WCAC? Who?
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Post by prhoya on Dec 3, 2021 20:20:32 GMT -5
Aminu played for Boo Williams AAU during the summers which is only open for players that live in the DMV. Look at his bio and see where it says he’s from. He’s a local recruit. He’s from Nigeria. Before GU, he went to high school in Missouri for 3 years. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aminu_Mohammed_(basketball)
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Post by daveg023 on Dec 3, 2021 20:20:57 GMT -5
Once Cooley turned down the Michigan job I think the ship sailed on him ever leaving PC. To me he's there through his recent extension which I think runs through like 2028 or something. So long as they make the tournament every other year or so, they won't push him out of town and he can comfortably stay there. He makes like $3-4 million there and he has a ton a goodwill going for him. Agreed. I just thought it was odd he was listed haha. Same. Lazy reporting it seems like.
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Post by prhoya on Dec 3, 2021 20:22:46 GMT -5
One might point out the obvious that Georgetown LITERALLY has a local 5* on its current roster (Aminu). There are two players, but both moved away 5 to 7 years ago and haven't had a home in the DMV, Aminu and Dante. Then you have Carey too. All three left the area, but are back. If you spend any time talking to local players in the last 5 to 10 years nearly all of them say one thing, I want to go to college away from home. Recruiting doesn't fix that. Many of the local WaPo All Met players have said they would have made the same decision to leave the area for college, hands down. But, many also say if something happened and they needed to be home (Pandemic has had a lot of players thinking about this losing relatives) they would play and Georgetown is the program they would want to play at. But, at the end of the day they are happy as all get out to be in college hundreds or thousands of miles away from home. I guess this doesn’t happen, for example, in NYC area and St. John’s.
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Post by professorhoya on Dec 3, 2021 20:40:30 GMT -5
One might point out the obvious that Georgetown LITERALLY has a local 5* on its current roster (Aminu). There are two players, but both moved away 5 to 7 years ago and haven't had a home in the DMV, Aminu and Dante. Then you have Carey too. All three left the area, but are back. If you spend any time talking to local players in the last 5 to 10 years nearly all of them say one thing, I want to go to college away from home. Recruiting doesn't fix that. Many of the local WaPo All Met players have said they would have made the same decision to leave the area for college, hands down. But, many also say if something happened and they needed to be home (Pandemic has had a lot of players thinking about this losing relatives) they would play and Georgetown is the program they would want to play at. But, at the end of the day they are happy as all get out to be in college hundreds or thousands of miles away from home. That's the going trend everywhere. and it makes sense. Back in the day, games were only televised locally/regionally so players tended to stay at home so that family could either attend games or watch on TV. The Big East and DePaul through the WGN superstation televised nationally and so this allowed those schools to start to recruit nationally. Now pretty much every game is available on TV nationally and also airline travel costs have come down considerably so the main two reasons that pulled players to stay at home are gone.
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Post by Loyal Hoya on Dec 3, 2021 20:42:40 GMT -5
www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/32779473/maryland-terrapins-men-basketball-coach-mark-turgeon-steps-10-plus-seasons“He led the Terps to a 226-116 record and five NCAA tournament appearances in the past seven seasons, and he won a share of the Big Ten regular-season championship in 2020… The Terrapins reached the second round of the NCAA tournament last season before falling to Alabama to finish 17-14… The school said the decision for Turgeon to step down was a mutual one, and that a national search for a new coach would take place following this season…” Better record than GU during the same period… various tournament appearances… regular season title… If a Thompson or Ewing had that record at GU, some of you would give him a lifetime contract. At Maryland, that record gets you fired. But JTII did make it to the Sweet 16 and Final Four, made it to the NCCA Tourney in 8 of 13 seasons (62%), won a BET, and three regular season titles...
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Post by 95hoya on Dec 3, 2021 20:44:11 GMT -5
LOL @ considering Aminu local.
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