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Post by Nevada Hoya on May 15, 2021 16:24:27 GMT -5
The men were ranked 4th (just 13 points out of 5th) in the conference standings, so it was great to beat Nova (a little like the bball BET) and all the other teams except UConn, which ran away with the title. I guess being a state school can have a deep team.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on May 15, 2021 16:31:28 GMT -5
Men's TJ
7 Josiah Laney Georgetown 13.75m 2
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Post by Nevada Hoya on May 15, 2021 16:36:15 GMT -5
Women
1 Villanova 197.50 2 Connecticut 157.50 3 St. John's 99 4 Butler 96 5 DePaul 90 6 Marquette 84 7 Georgetown 73 8 Providence 50 9 Xavier (Ohio) 9
The women were ranked 6th coming in, so a little defeat there.
Men
1 Connecticut 294 2 Georgetown 126 3 Villanova 121 4 Butler 99 5 Marquette 93 6 DePaul 78 7 Providence 30 8 Xavier (Ohio) 8
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Post by proudhoyadad on May 15, 2021 18:12:35 GMT -5
The men were ranked 4th (just 13 points out of 5th) in the conference standings, so it was great to beat Nova (a little like the bball BET) and all the other teams except UConn, which ran away with the title. I guess being a state school can have a deep team. Let us not forget that UCONN has over 2.5 times the amount of undergraduates that Georgetown does.
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sheasdad
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Post by sheasdad on May 16, 2021 8:02:24 GMT -5
A second place finish by the Hoya mens is a signal of how far this team has come in one year. A great group of mostly underclassmen with a couple of motivated grad students in leadership roles who go out of their way to inspire and mentor. Unfortunately for Hoya fans, UConn will conceivably win the Big East outdoor track meet for years to come because of their depth in the field events. The Huskie men had 100+ points after Day One as a result of first place finishes in the hammer, long jump, pole vault, javelin etc. Does Georgetown even have a pole vault pit? And you'd probably get arrested throwing a javelin in DC LOL.
I made the drive to Geneva OH and caught all the action...met some old friends...made some new ones...and got to know a few of the old ones better...what a great time...I feel blessed I might get to do it a couple of more times...I'm going to have to encourage Shea to drop some more classes so he gets on the six year plan...
NevadaHoya did a great job of reporting the results..a couple of observations from trackside:
1. Sean Dolan of Villanova is going to be a thorn in the side of our middle distance men for the next few years. Sean is fast and likes to win. I'm guessing that he is the reason for our mediocre performance in the 800 where we had four of the eight runners in the final. Somehow our guys were forced to the front early on in a tactical race, which set up Sean for his usual big kick at the end. In the 4x800 Jack S tried to go by Sean twice on the back stretch and got cut off 2x...
2. Maggie Donahue ran a great 5000...staying with the front group of four for the entire race...she should be in the front of that pack in the near future...it should also be pointed out that the 5000 was run in the middle of the afternoon...while the temp was "only" 70* the sun was very strong and had those in the stands looking for shade...or at least suntan lotion...the 10000 was run the previous evening with the track almost entirely in the shade and those runners were still complaining about the heat...in the men's 5000 Jack VS made a great move about mid-way to move up to the lead pack...and Robert was dominant in controlling the race despite the apparent closeness of the finish...
3. The women ran a great 4x800 with true freshman Sierra Dineen in the 2nd leg taking the team from 2nd last to first (100 meters?)...I don't know her split but it looked like she was running about 10-20 seconds faster than every other runner in the field...
4. I enjoyed watching the women's team cheering for the men and vice versa. In past seasons I always got the feeling that the men and women didn't really know each other...like they were two different teams from different schools. From what I understand the men and women know each other much better this year because they are sharing a dorm and there is a common room for them to hang out and talk. A positive outcome from this mess...I'd suggest that the powers that be might want to consider continuing this housing arrangement for years to come...
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on May 16, 2021 10:42:05 GMT -5
4. I enjoyed watching the women's team cheering for the men and vice versa. In past seasons I always got the feeling that the men and women didn't really know each other...like they were two different teams from different schools. From what I understand the men and women know each other much better this year because they are sharing a dorm and there is a common room for them to hang out and talk. A positive outcome from this mess...I'd suggest that the powers that be might want to consider continuing this housing arrangement for years to come... This may also be a function of the new director of the program? I do laps on the Duke Ellington Track a couple of times a week, sometimes overlapping with practices. It's always a mixed group as far as I've seen.
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Post by sheasdad on May 16, 2021 11:06:27 GMT -5
This may also be a function of the new director of the program? I do laps on the Duke Ellington Track a couple of times a week, sometimes overlapping with practices. It's always a mixed group as far as I've seen. That is an excellent report RusskyHoya and whatever is behind this development it is very positive. At the meets I see various individual men and women running together to warm up or cool down...I think I also saw a couple of budding romances but I won't report on that... I do not know the new Director but I see a lot of positives with the program.
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on May 16, 2021 15:30:43 GMT -5
I do not know the new Director but I see a lot of positives with the program. I would strongly encourage anyone with the least bit of interest in Georgetown track and field to listen to the Hoya Insider podcast with Alton McKenzie: guhoyas.com/sports/2020/3/4/hoya-insider-podcast.aspxThese podcasts as a whole are *shockingly* good. The level of honesty, the deep dives into coaches' upbringing and backgrounds and philosophies not just toward sports but toward life... it's easily the best thing McDonough has produced in the 16+ years that I've been a fan. Miles above the scrubbed coachspeak dreck you get out of Power 5 propaganda.
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Nevada Hoya
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Post by Nevada Hoya on May 16, 2021 18:43:28 GMT -5
Additional men’s performances of note include Georgetown’s Jack Salisbury, who recorded the fastest 1,500m time at the BIG EAST Championships since 2009 with a winning clip of 3:44.85, while teammate Robert Brandt ran the fastest 5,000m since 2002 with a finish of 13:48.12; UConn hurdlers Terrel Williams (110m-H, 14.13) and Wellington Ventura (400m-H, 51.70) recorded the fastest times at the conference meet since 2013 and 2012, respectively; D'Andre Barriffe, Joshua Paige, Josiah Laney and Andrew Robinson scored Georgetown’s first ever 4x100 title (40.52); and Villanova’s Nicholas Ackerman, Miller Anderson, Sean Dolan and Josh Phillips recorded the fastest 4x800 gold medal time (7:25.26) since 2011.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on May 16, 2021 19:10:49 GMT -5
A second place finish by the Hoya mens is a signal of how far this team has come in one year. A great group of mostly underclassmen with a couple of motivated grad students in leadership roles who go out of their way to inspire and mentor. Unfortunately for Hoya fans, UConn will conceivably win the Big East outdoor track meet for years to come because of their depth in the field events. The Huskie men had 100+ points after Day One as a result of first place finishes in the hammer, long jump, pole vault, javelin etc. Does Georgetown even have a pole vault pit? And you'd probably get arrested throwing a javelin in DC LOL. That is what I am afraid of. I guess the most that we can expect is for the Hoyas to win the "Track Meet" because we are not going to be a field power except for maybe LJ and TJ. I have not counted the points for track vs field, but I would guess that we won the "Track Meet" yesterday.
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Post by hoyaduck on May 17, 2021 10:42:52 GMT -5
4. I enjoyed watching the women's team cheering for the men and vice versa. In past seasons I always got the feeling that the men and women didn't really know each other...like they were two different teams from different schools. From what I understand the men and women know each other much better this year because they are sharing a dorm and there is a common room for them to hang out and talk. A positive outcome from this mess...I'd suggest that the powers that be might want to consider continuing this housing arrangement for years to come... This is interesting to hear. I chose Georgetown in large part because of the camaraderie I felt between the men and women and between the different classes on the team. Hopefully that bond continues to grow between them.
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Post by birdman on May 17, 2021 12:29:01 GMT -5
A second place finish by the Hoya mens is a signal of how far this team has come in one year. A great group of mostly underclassmen with a couple of motivated grad students in leadership roles who go out of their way to inspire and mentor. Unfortunately for Hoya fans, UConn will conceivably win the Big East outdoor track meet for years to come because of their depth in the field events. The Huskie men had 100+ points after Day One as a result of first place finishes in the hammer, long jump, pole vault, javelin etc. Does Georgetown even have a pole vault pit? And you'd probably get arrested throwing a javelin in DC LOL. That is what I am afraid of. I guess the most that we can expect is for the Hoyas to win the "Track Meet" because we are not going to be a field power except for maybe LJ and TJ. I have not counted the points for track vs field, but I would guess that we won the "Track Meet" yesterday. Here's what I got: Event Georgetown UCONN 100 13 (3, 5, 6) 12 (1, 7) 200 12 (3, 5, 7) 11 (1, 8) 400 0 17 (1, 5, 6) 800 13 (4, 5, 6, 8) 14 (2, 3) 1500 17 (1, 3, 8) 0 Steeple 19 (1, 3, 6) 6 (4, 8) 5000 14 (1, 5) 7 (3, 8) 10000 10 (3, 5) 3 (6) 110H 6 (3) 16 (1, 6, 7, 8) 400H 0 16 (1, 3) 4x100 10 (1) 6 (3) 4x400 2 (7) 5 (4) 4x800 8 (2) 4 (5) 124 117So we outperformed them to "win" the "Track Meet". Meanwhile UCONN WON (never mind other scoring places) the High Jump, Pole Vault, Long Jump, Shot Put, Hammer, Javelin, and Decathlon
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Nevada Hoya
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Post by Nevada Hoya on May 17, 2021 12:55:55 GMT -5
The rankings came in today after conference weekend. It seems as if the teams with the good sprinters benefited better than the middle distance and distance schools because these races are generally tactical races and will not get points for their times. That being said the Hoyas dropped from 32nd to 44th. However, the steeple, which was one of our best scoring events suffered greatly as five guys from the ACC went ahead of Parker and with other conferences 10 men slipped ahead of Parker.
The women dropped from 131st to 148th.
In the Regional rankings the men went from 3rd to 2nd just after Navy. Track and Field powerhouses Pittsburgh, Penn State, and Villanova are 3, 4, and 6, respectively. The women remain 9th in the region.
In the conference rankings the men moved up one place to 3rd, even though they beat Nova in the head to head competition. The women remained 6th in the BE.
The men remain 4th in the team SC, and are 5th in the 800m and 1500m. The women rank 22nd in both the 800m and 1500m.
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Post by sheasdad on May 17, 2021 17:05:26 GMT -5
FYI the Hoya press release is WRONG that the men's second place finish is the best since 2014...it is actually the best since 2001!!!! In 2014 the men finished third behind Villanova and DePaul.
That makes their performance even more outstanding.
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