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Post by bostonfan on Mar 17, 2021 14:49:40 GMT -5
I heard Chris Beard has accepted the IU offer and is just waiting for the announcement post-tourney. That would be a shame for Mac if he was going to stay. Beard could build IU back into a monster if he takes it. I don't think Mac ever had any plans to stay another year. I want to say I saw somewhere that he was pretty open about playing one more year and then declaring for the draft again and going professional. I am not sure that he will get drafted, but it certainly seemed like his plan was he was done with playing in college. It has been such a crazy year so I am sure plans could have changed and maybe he wants to stay and really likes being at Texas Tech, but my guess would be that he is gone no matter who the coach at Tech is next year.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 15:33:31 GMT -5
I heard Chris Beard has accepted the IU offer and is just waiting for the announcement post-tourney. That would be a shame for Mac if he was going to stay. Beard could build IU back into a monster if he takes it. I don't think Mac ever had any plans to stay another year. I want to say I saw somewhere that he was pretty open about playing one more year and then declaring for the draft again and going professional. I am not sure that he will get drafted, but it certainly seemed like his plan was he was done with playing in college. It has been such a crazy year so I am sure plans could have changed and maybe he wants to stay and really likes being at Texas Tech, but my guess would be that he is gone no matter who the coach at Tech is next year. Mac done messed up his whole career. He turned his back on Patrick Ewing and the program. He didn't become a distributor he was supposed to become by going to this school and this so called "great coach" who was supposed to "develop" him. He wasn't the star on the team in the end. He basically ended up being the same player he was at Georgetown; basically he didn't improve one bit nor did his game change one bit. Now, his coach maybe gone from TTU. What a shame! By turning his back on Ewing and not getting any "development" at TTU, he is definitely not going to make it into the NBA. He basically "blackballed" himself from the league. At least if he had stuck in with Georgetown, coach Ewing could have given a good word on the young man. Now, not so much!
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 17, 2021 17:37:11 GMT -5
Mac done messed up his whole career. He turned his back on Patrick Ewing and the program. He didn't become a distributor he was supposed to become by going to this school and this so called "great coach" who was supposed to "develop" him. He wasn't the star on the team in the end. He basically ended up being the same player he was at Georgetown; basically he didn't improve one bit nor did his game change one bit. Now, his coach maybe gone from TTU. What a shame! By turning his back on Ewing and not getting any "development" at TTU, he is definitely not going to make it into the NBA. He basically "blackballed" himself from the league. At least if he had stuck in with Georgetown, coach Ewing could have given a good word on the young man. Now, not so much! I don't understand all your heat over this. Matt McClung was never going to be an IR major, he did not come to Georgetown to join the Wall Street Alliance. He wants to play basketball for his career. After Akinjo, LeBlanc, Alexander, Gardner, and Yurtseven left, it's entirely possible someone told him that being on a last place team isn't a resume builder. He left for Tech where he leads the Red Raiders in scoring, appeared nationally 19 times in a 27 game season and has a #6 seed in the tournament. A couple of good games in the bracket positions him for what he always wanted: a draft pick. Until the last three weeks, even the most ardent HoyaTalk poster would not have suggested Georgetown, with a 4-10 record in early February, would provide that level of exposure for him. There were no untoward words exchanged and Mac took not not to throw anyone under the bus when he left. Coaches know to wish players well because if they don't it comes back to bite them on the recruiting circuit. Are you this angry about James Akinjo?
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Post by the_way on Mar 17, 2021 17:52:19 GMT -5
In retrospect, everyone who left the program needed to leave for themselves and for our basketball program.
Those who stayed, needed to stay (Pickett, Blair).
Team ball and selfless play. That is the formula for us under Ewing. We saw it with the 6-man rotation last year and we are seeing it again this year with our Big East tournament title run.
That will be the key going forward.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 18:00:47 GMT -5
Mac done messed up his whole career. He turned his back on Patrick Ewing and the program. He didn't become a distributor he was supposed to become by going to this school and this so called "great coach" who was supposed to "develop" him. He wasn't the star on the team in the end. He basically ended up being the same player he was at Georgetown; basically he didn't improve one bit nor did his game change one bit. Now, his coach maybe gone from TTU. What a shame! By turning his back on Ewing and not getting any "development" at TTU, he is definitely not going to make it into the NBA. He basically "blackballed" himself from the league. At least if he had stuck in with Georgetown, coach Ewing could have given a good word on the young man. Now, not so much! I don't understand all your heat over this. Matt McClung was never going to be an IR major, he did not come to Georgetown to join the Wall Street Alliance. He wants to play basketball for his career. After Akinjo, LeBlanc, Alexander, Gardner, and Yurtseven left, it's entirely possible someone told him that being on a last place team isn't a resume builder. He left for Tech where he leads the Red Raiders in scoring, appeared nationally 19 times in a 27 game season and has a #6 seed in the tournament. A couple of good games in the bracket positions him for what he always wanted: a draft pick. Until the last three weeks, even the most ardent HoyaTalk poster would not have suggested Georgetown, with a 4-10 record in early February, would provide that level of exposure for him. There were no untoward words exchanged and Mac took not not to throw anyone under the bus when he left. Coaches know to wish players well because if they don't it comes back to bite them on the recruiting circuit. Are you this angry about James Akinjo? No sir. I love the kid but he's not a NBA prospect. His only NBA position is pg and he had more turnovers than assists in conference play. Jahvon had 25 more assists in conference than him in 2 less games. One thing Hoya fans consistently do is not understand how good you have to be to make the league. He's a very good college player and is exciting as all heck. He''s going to make a ton of money playing pro ball somewhere, but none of the 3 main guys kids that left are legit NBA prospect, and tbh they never have been.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 18:19:36 GMT -5
Mac done messed up his whole career. He turned his back on Patrick Ewing and the program. He didn't become a distributor he was supposed to become by going to this school and this so called "great coach" who was supposed to "develop" him. He wasn't the star on the team in the end. He basically ended up being the same player he was at Georgetown; basically he didn't improve one bit nor did his game change one bit. Now, his coach maybe gone from TTU. What a shame! By turning his back on Ewing and not getting any "development" at TTU, he is definitely not going to make it into the NBA. He basically "blackballed" himself from the league. At least if he had stuck in with Georgetown, coach Ewing could have given a good word on the young man. Now, not so much! I don't understand all your heat over this. Matt McClung was never going to be an IR major, he did not come to Georgetown to join the Wall Street Alliance. He wants to play basketball for his career. After Akinjo, LeBlanc, Alexander, Gardner, and Yurtseven left, it's entirely possible someone told him that being on a last place team isn't a resume builder. He left for Tech where he leads the Red Raiders in scoring, appeared nationally 19 times in a 27 game season and has a #6 seed in the tournament. A couple of good games in the bracket positions him for what he always wanted: a draft pick. Until the last three weeks, even the most ardent HoyaTalk poster would not have suggested Georgetown, with a 4-10 record in early February, would provide that level of exposure for him. There were no untoward words exchanged and Mac took not not to throw anyone under the bus when he left. Coaches know to wish players well because if they don't it comes back to bite them on the recruiting circuit. Are you this angry about James Akinjo? Look, I'm not angry about Mac leaving. I like Mac. You should have seen the things I said defending Mac before he put on a Georgetown jersey when people were saying negative things about him. I said the kid was talented and better than most when they gave him that low high school player's ranking. I've also have defended Mac a lot in the feeds so no I'm not angry with Mac. I was happy that he chose Georgetown and I went public about that too. Now my comment doesn't have anything to do with Akinjo but the observation is totally different with Akinjo. Akinjo didn't leave because he was going to get "developed" by a better coach. Akinjo didn't leave because he had NBA aspirations. Akinjo left because he didn't want to keep playing second fiddle to Mac. Now whether that was right or wrong, that's left up to you and others to debate. But Mac, on the other hand, left the program high and dry after we gave him his shine sacrificing other players on the team including Akinjo! I'm just simply making an observation. The observation being he did all of that, leaving the program and turning his back on his coach because supposedly this was better for his career according to some of you guys posting in the feeds. I don't see anything that the new school and Chris "The Guru" did for Mac's basketball acumen, skill, nothing. He's still the same dude. Mac said he left because he didn't like the environment here at Georgetown. He said the players weren't close enough. Let's see how close he's going to be with the players should his coach leave and a lot of those players on that team start transferring. Let's see if he gets "developed" next year should his coach leave and he hangs in there at TTU. Let's see if he makes the NBA as a non point guard "point guard". That's all I'm saying. To me, he made a big mistake even if the coach does stay with the program because in all honesty, I don't see any so call "development". But, it's all good because maybe we are better off without him now that Blair and Pickett, two guys who got sacrificed when Mac came in, in the end got the time to shine. I just find it ironic that his coach may be leaving and Mac is not better off than he was when he was at Georgetown. That's all.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 17, 2021 18:28:20 GMT -5
I don't understand all your heat over this. Matt McClung was never going to be an IR major, he did not come to Georgetown to join the Wall Street Alliance. He wants to play basketball for his career. After Akinjo, LeBlanc, Alexander, Gardner, and Yurtseven left, it's entirely possible someone told him that being on a last place team isn't a resume builder. He left for Tech where he leads the Red Raiders in scoring, appeared nationally 19 times in a 27 game season and has a #6 seed in the tournament. A couple of good games in the bracket positions him for what he always wanted: a draft pick. Until the last three weeks, even the most ardent HoyaTalk poster would not have suggested Georgetown, with a 4-10 record in early February, would provide that level of exposure for him. There were no untoward words exchanged and Mac took not not to throw anyone under the bus when he left. Coaches know to wish players well because if they don't it comes back to bite them on the recruiting circuit. Are you this angry about James Akinjo? Look, I'm not angry about Mac leaving. I like Mac. You should have seen the things I said defending Mac before he put on a Georgetown jersey when people were saying negative things about him. I said the kid was talented and better than most when they gave him that low high school player's ranking. I've also have defended Mac a lot in the feeds so no I'm not angry with Mac. I was happy that he chose Georgetown and I went public about that too. Now my comment doesn't have anything to do with Akinjo but the observation is totally different with Akinjo. Akinjo didn't leave because he was going to get "developed" by a better coach. Akinjo didn't leave because he had NBA aspirations. Akinjo left because he didn't want to keep playing second fiddle to Mac. Now whether that was right or wrong, that's left up to you and others to debate. But Mac, on the other hand, left the program high and dry after we gave him his shine sacrificing other players on the team including Akinjo! I'm just simply making an observation. The observation being he did all of that, leaving the program and turning his back on his coach because supposedly this was better for his career according to some of you guys posting in the feeds. I don't see anything that the new school and Chris "The Guru" did for Mac's basketball acumen, skill, nothing. He's still the same dude. Mac said he left because he didn't like the environment here at Georgetown. He said the players weren't close enough. Let's see how close he's going to be with the players should his coach leave and a lot of those players on that team start transferring. Let's see if he gets "developed" next year should his coach leave and he hangs in there at TTU. Let's see if he makes the NBA as a non point guard "point guard". That's all I'm saying. To me, he made a big mistake even if the coach does stay with the program because in all honesty, I don't see any so call "development". But, it's all good because maybe we are better off without him now that Blair and Pickett, two guys who got sacrificed when Mac came in, in the end got the time to shine. I just find it ironic that his coach may be leaving and Mac is not better off than he was when he was at Georgetown. That's all. His stats are exactly the same. He was doing well earlier in the season But he’s slumped over the last month just like last year. Akinjo stats are almost identical to his freshman year except he’s scoring 2 pts more. Josh’s stats are awful at LSU.
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Post by the_way on Mar 17, 2021 18:34:05 GMT -5
LeBlanc's abilities were intangibles (on the court) and hustle plays.
Not necessarily stats. He is also the same player, playing less minutes at LSU.
He was our biggest loss out of the 3 and he is the one who hurt himself the most.
But that opened the door for guys like Bile. One door closes, another one opens.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 18:39:30 GMT -5
Look, I'm not angry about Mac leaving. I like Mac. You should have seen the things I said defending Mac before he put on a Georgetown jersey when people were saying negative things about him. I said the kid was talented and better than most when they gave him that low high school player's ranking. I've also have defended Mac a lot in the feeds so no I'm not angry with Mac. I was happy that he chose Georgetown and I went public about that too. Now my comment doesn't have anything to do with Akinjo but the observation is totally different with Akinjo. Akinjo didn't leave because he was going to get "developed" by a better coach. Akinjo didn't leave because he had NBA aspirations. Akinjo left because he didn't want to keep playing second fiddle to Mac. Now whether that was right or wrong, that's left up to you and others to debate. But Mac, on the other hand, left the program high and dry after we gave him his shine sacrificing other players on the team including Akinjo! I'm just simply making an observation. The observation being he did all of that, leaving the program and turning his back on his coach because supposedly this was better for his career according to some of you guys posting in the feeds. I don't see anything that the new school and Chris "The Guru" did for Mac's basketball acumen, skill, nothing. He's still the same dude. Mac said he left because he didn't like the environment here at Georgetown. He said the players weren't close enough. Let's see how close he's going to be with the players should his coach leave and a lot of those players on that team start transferring. Let's see if he gets "developed" next year should his coach leave and he hangs in there at TTU. Let's see if he makes the NBA as a non point guard "point guard". That's all I'm saying. To me, he made a big mistake even if the coach does stay with the program because in all honesty, I don't see any so call "development". But, it's all good because maybe we are better off without him now that Blair and Pickett, two guys who got sacrificed when Mac came in, in the end got the time to shine. I just find it ironic that his coach may be leaving and Mac is not better off than he was when he was at Georgetown. That's all. His stats are exactly the same. He was doing well earlier in the season But he’s slumped over the last month just like last year. Akinjo stats are almost identical to his freshman year except he’s scoring 2 pts more. Josh’s stats are awful at LSU. In all honesty, I really really really do still miss those guys including Myron and Galen but stuff happens.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 17, 2021 19:08:31 GMT -5
I’m still upset that Michael Graham didn’t return for his sophomore year. ☹️
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Post by DudeSlade on Mar 17, 2021 19:18:23 GMT -5
Looking for some ideas while filling out my bracket this year. I think I have far too much chalk, but I'm having a hard time finding upsets I like.
I think the completely abnormal situations around the entire tournament and the reduction in non-conference games that made evaluating the relative merits of the different conferences more difficult has the potential to lead to more upsets than normal, in part because I think teams are probably not as accurately ranked as they would be in normal years. For example, there seems to be this overriding narrative that the Big Ten is beastly and thus teams from there are deserving of high seeds even with more losses. Could this be true? Absolutely. Was this hypothesis tested as much this year as it would be in normal years? No.
But, most upsets are match-up driven and I'm struggling to find ones I like. For instance, Virginia & Kansas are coming back from covid and will have had much less time together and on the court leading up to it -- potentially a recipe for upsets -- but I'm not enamored with Ohio or Eastern Washington in those matchups.
More than early upsets, the part I'm trying to figure out is how good are these top seeds, because I am heavily leaning toward a number of 1-2 matchups in the Elite Eight, but I just don't see how this year is the one where that sort of chalk happens. I'm having a hard time talking myself out of teams like Gonzaga, Iowa, Illinois, Baylor, Houston at that stage, though.
Most importantly for us, I can't help but think Michigan is vulnerable with the loss of Livers, but haven't been able to place where (and who) will knock them out. Every year Georgetown is in the Tournament, I pick them to go way too far because I can't help it, so I'm trying to remove my bias in thinking the East bracket through.
Perhaps Hoyatalk has some thoughts to how the rest of this will play out.
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Post by hoyazeke on Mar 17, 2021 19:23:39 GMT -5
Mac done messed up his whole career. He turned his back on Patrick Ewing and the program. He didn't become a distributor he was supposed to become by going to this school and this so called "great coach" who was supposed to "develop" him. He wasn't the star on the team in the end. He basically ended up being the same player he was at Georgetown; basically he didn't improve one bit nor did his game change one bit. Now, his coach maybe gone from TTU. What a shame! By turning his back on Ewing and not getting any "development" at TTU, he is definitely not going to make it into the NBA. He basically "blackballed" himself from the league. At least if he had stuck in with Georgetown, coach Ewing could have given a good word on the young man. Now, not so much! I don't understand all your heat over this. Matt McClung was never going to be an IR major, he did not come to Georgetown to join the Wall Street Alliance. He wants to play basketball for his career. After Akinjo, LeBlanc, Alexander, Gardner, and Yurtseven left, it's entirely possible someone told him that being on a last place team isn't a resume builder. He left for Tech where he leads the Red Raiders in scoring, appeared nationally 19 times in a 27 game season and has a #6 seed in the tournament. A couple of good games in the bracket positions him for what he always wanted: a draft pick. Until the last three weeks, even the most ardent HoyaTalk poster would not have suggested Georgetown, with a 4-10 record in early February, would provide that level of exposure for him. There were no untoward words exchanged and Mac took not not to throw anyone under the bus when he left. Coaches know to wish players well because if they don't it comes back to bite them on the recruiting circuit. Are you this angry about James Akinjo? DFW you don’t believe that if we had Mac we couldn’t have beaten Navy, Cuse, Butler and Quette. Maybe even WVU. Those 4gms change us from a team that needed the BE tourney to a team that gets an at large bid. Our problem was lack of good PG play to start the season. We wouldn’t have had the erratic offensive play early in the season waiting for Dante to grow into his role. Mac had his problems but he was better at running the team than Juggy and Juggy would’ve started the season in the position he’s striving at now, scoring assassin.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 17, 2021 19:33:53 GMT -5
Looking for some ideas while filling out my bracket this year. I think I have far too much chalk, but I'm having a hard time finding upsets I like. I think the completely abnormal situations around the entire tournament and the reduction in non-conference games that made evaluating the relative merits of the different conferences more difficult has the potential to lead to more upsets than normal, in part because I think teams are probably not as accurately ranked as they would be in normal years. For example, there seems to be this overriding narrative that the Big Ten is beastly and thus teams from there are deserving of high seeds even with more losses. Could this be true? Absolutely. Was this hypothesis tested as much this year as it would be in normal years? No. But, most upsets are match-up driven and I'm struggling to find ones I like. For instance, Virginia & Kansas are coming back from covid and will have had much less time together and on the court leading up to it -- potentially a recipe for upsets -- but I'm not enamored with Ohio or Eastern Washington in those matchups. More than early upsets, the part I'm trying to figure out is how good are these top seeds, because I am heavily leaning toward a number of 1-2 matchups in the Elite Eight, but I just don't see how this year is the one where that sort of chalk happens. I'm having a hard time talking myself out of teams like Gonzaga, Iowa, Illinois, Baylor, Houston at that stage, though. Most importantly for us, I can't help but think Michigan is vulnerable with the loss of Livers, but haven't been able to place where (and who) will knock them out. Every year Georgetown is in the Tournament, I pick them to go way too far because I can't help it, so I'm trying to remove my bias in thinking the East bracket through. Perhaps Hoyatalk has some thoughts to how the rest of this will play out. I think Big East is underrated and Big 10 is way overrated. ACC is also overrated. Haven't looked at the bracket but I would take the lower half of the Big 10 and ACC to be upset in the early rounds depending on matchup. The upper half get a boost from the seeding so you would want to keep picking them till the later rounds where they face an equal seed. That would be my strategy. Obviously Loyola Chicago - Illinois could be an upset special given Loyola's Pack Line Defense and Princeton style offense. Either scheme could slow the game down but they have both (the 2018 Final Four team only had a Pack Line Defense)
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 17, 2021 19:44:00 GMT -5
I don't understand all your heat over this. Matt McClung was never going to be an IR major, he did not come to Georgetown to join the Wall Street Alliance. He wants to play basketball for his career. After Akinjo, LeBlanc, Alexander, Gardner, and Yurtseven left, it's entirely possible someone told him that being on a last place team isn't a resume builder. He left for Tech where he leads the Red Raiders in scoring, appeared nationally 19 times in a 27 game season and has a #6 seed in the tournament. A couple of good games in the bracket positions him for what he always wanted: a draft pick. Until the last three weeks, even the most ardent HoyaTalk poster would not have suggested Georgetown, with a 4-10 record in early February, would provide that level of exposure for him. There were no untoward words exchanged and Mac took not not to throw anyone under the bus when he left. Coaches know to wish players well because if they don't it comes back to bite them on the recruiting circuit. Are you this angry about James Akinjo? DFW you don’t believe that if we had Mac we couldn’t have beaten Navy, Cuse, Butler and Quette. Maybe even WVU. Those 4gms change us from a team that needed the BE tourney to a team that gets an at large bid. Our problem was lack of good PG play to start the season. We wouldn’t have had the erratic offensive play early in the season waiting for Dante to grow into his role. Mac had his problems but he was better at running the team than Juggy and Juggy would’ve started the season in the position he’s striving at now, scoring assassin. I think initially we would have gotten a boost from Mac in those early loses. I think the problem we would run into is the problem Mac teams always run into is that Mac can only really play point guard (especially defensively), And Dante can really only play point. So you would have ended up having to play Mac at shooting guard which worsens are length/height/defense or have Dante come off the bench with Mac starting at point. Even on the Texas Tech team with Mac playing point, that's not the best defensive option. Overall, as good as Akinjo and Mac are, they are at worst defensive liabilities and at best slightly below average defensively because neither has height/length or absurd lateral quickness/speed. When you had those two on the court at the same time our defense suffered and I don't think we could have the defense that we've shown lately with them. We have a much higher defensive ceiling with the current personnel and composition on the team. The other thing is Blair and Mac kind of duplicate each other in terms of being super sub/instant offense with Mac with flashier athleticism and Blair with better 3pts. Blair kind of is doing the Mac function on how we would want to use Mac with Dante.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 17, 2021 20:13:44 GMT -5
Pretty sure we wouldn’t have won the Big East Tournament with Mac hunting shots. We basically ran a 1 and 4 on offense when he was here.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 20:41:26 GMT -5
Looking for some ideas while filling out my bracket this year. I think I have far too much chalk, but I'm having a hard time finding upsets I like. I think the completely abnormal situations around the entire tournament and the reduction in non-conference games that made evaluating the relative merits of the different conferences more difficult has the potential to lead to more upsets than normal, in part because I think teams are probably not as accurately ranked as they would be in normal years. For example, there seems to be this overriding narrative that the Big Ten is beastly and thus teams from there are deserving of high seeds even with more losses. Could this be true? Absolutely. Was this hypothesis tested as much this year as it would be in normal years? No. But, most upsets are match-up driven and I'm struggling to find ones I like. For instance, Virginia & Kansas are coming back from covid and will have had much less time together and on the court leading up to it -- potentially a recipe for upsets -- but I'm not enamored with Ohio or Eastern Washington in those matchups. More than early upsets, the part I'm trying to figure out is how good are these top seeds, because I am heavily leaning toward a number of 1-2 matchups in the Elite Eight, but I just don't see how this year is the one where that sort of chalk happens. I'm having a hard time talking myself out of teams like Gonzaga, Iowa, Illinois, Baylor, Houston at that stage, though. Most importantly for us, I can't help but think Michigan is vulnerable with the loss of Livers, but haven't been able to place where (and who) will knock them out. Every year Georgetown is in the Tournament, I pick them to go way too far because I can't help it, so I'm trying to remove my bias in thinking the East bracket through. Perhaps Hoyatalk has some thoughts to how the rest of this will play out. Ohio has an NBA level PG and he's about 6'4. I wouldn't be surprised if they won that game. Utah St is really good defensively and could beat TTU if their knocking down shots. Rutgers is a good one. They have a legit star who could carry them. Colgate and Liberty are really good 3 point shooting teams so think they have a shot but I'm not as high on Colgate since they will be playing Arkansas. Arkansas is basically a HM version of them but Colgate can score enough to win if Arkansas has an off night. They're very explosive. Syracuse could beat SDSU, but if SDSU wins that game they could go far. Veteran team that locks people down on D and will be very hungry.
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Post by Massholya on Mar 17, 2021 20:46:21 GMT -5
Looking for some ideas while filling out my bracket this year. I think I have far too much chalk, but I'm having a hard time finding upsets I like. I think the completely abnormal situations around the entire tournament and the reduction in non-conference games that made evaluating the relative merits of the different conferences more difficult has the potential to lead to more upsets than normal, in part because I think teams are probably not as accurately ranked as they would be in normal years. For example, there seems to be this overriding narrative that the Big Ten is beastly and thus teams from there are deserving of high seeds even with more losses. Could this be true? Absolutely. Was this hypothesis tested as much this year as it would be in normal years? No. But, most upsets are match-up driven and I'm struggling to find ones I like. For instance, Virginia & Kansas are coming back from covid and will have had much less time together and on the court leading up to it -- potentially a recipe for upsets -- but I'm not enamored with Ohio or Eastern Washington in those matchups. More than early upsets, the part I'm trying to figure out is how good are these top seeds, because I am heavily leaning toward a number of 1-2 matchups in the Elite Eight, but I just don't see how this year is the one where that sort of chalk happens. I'm having a hard time talking myself out of teams like Gonzaga, Iowa, Illinois, Baylor, Houston at that stage, though. Most importantly for us, I can't help but think Michigan is vulnerable with the loss of Livers, but haven't been able to place where (and who) will knock them out. Every year Georgetown is in the Tournament, I pick them to go way too far because I can't help it, so I'm trying to remove my bias in thinking the East bracket through. Perhaps Hoyatalk has some thoughts to how the rest of this will play out. I have the exact same problem. I couldn’t believe how much chalk I was writing. I kept looking at the bracket looking for potential upsets and I couldn’t find them. So I finally decided my best strategy was just to wait to submit my bracket till I could verify there weren’t any drop outs.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Mar 17, 2021 20:47:52 GMT -5
I don't understand all your heat over this. Matt McClung was never going to be an IR major, he did not come to Georgetown to join the Wall Street Alliance. He wants to play basketball for his career. After Akinjo, LeBlanc, Alexander, Gardner, and Yurtseven left, it's entirely possible someone told him that being on a last place team isn't a resume builder. He left for Tech where he leads the Red Raiders in scoring, appeared nationally 19 times in a 27 game season and has a #6 seed in the tournament. A couple of good games in the bracket positions him for what he always wanted: a draft pick. Until the last three weeks, even the most ardent HoyaTalk poster would not have suggested Georgetown, with a 4-10 record in early February, would provide that level of exposure for him. There were no untoward words exchanged and Mac took not not to throw anyone under the bus when he left. Coaches know to wish players well because if they don't it comes back to bite them on the recruiting circuit. Are you this angry about James Akinjo? No sir. I love the kid but he's not a NBA prospect. His only NBA position is pg and he had more turnovers than assists in conference play. Jahvon had 25 more assists in conference than him in 2 less games. One thing Hoya fans consistently do is not understand how good you have to be to make the league. He's a very good college player and is exciting as all heck. He''s going to make a ton of money playing pro ball somewhere, but none of the 3 main guys kids that left are legit NBA prospect, and tbh they never have been. For what it’s worth, he’s currently projected as a mid 2nd round pick in the latest mock on nbadraft.net
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Post by the_way on Mar 17, 2021 20:49:07 GMT -5
I don't understand all your heat over this. Matt McClung was never going to be an IR major, he did not come to Georgetown to join the Wall Street Alliance. He wants to play basketball for his career. After Akinjo, LeBlanc, Alexander, Gardner, and Yurtseven left, it's entirely possible someone told him that being on a last place team isn't a resume builder. He left for Tech where he leads the Red Raiders in scoring, appeared nationally 19 times in a 27 game season and has a #6 seed in the tournament. A couple of good games in the bracket positions him for what he always wanted: a draft pick. Until the last three weeks, even the most ardent HoyaTalk poster would not have suggested Georgetown, with a 4-10 record in early February, would provide that level of exposure for him. There were no untoward words exchanged and Mac took not not to throw anyone under the bus when he left. Coaches know to wish players well because if they don't it comes back to bite them on the recruiting circuit. Are you this angry about James Akinjo? DFW you don’t believe that if we had Mac we couldn’t have beaten Navy, Cuse, Butler and Quette. Maybe even WVU. Those 4gms change us from a team that needed the BE tourney to a team that gets an at large bid. Our problem was lack of good PG play to start the season. We wouldn’t have had the erratic offensive play early in the season waiting for Dante to grow into his role. Mac had his problems but he was better at running the team than Juggy and Juggy would’ve started the season in the position he’s striving at now, scoring assassin. Mac doesn't fit in what we have today as a program. Akinjo was Big East rookie of the year, not Mac. LeBlanc had the most raw talent of the 3. Both Mac and Akinjo wanted to be heroes while playing. Hero-ball. That is all well and good, but even the likes of Ewing and Michael Jordan adhered to the team concept and sacrificed their games for the betterment of the team while in college. Selfless, team ball is what works best with Coach Ewing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 20:52:47 GMT -5
No sir. I love the kid but he's not a NBA prospect. His only NBA position is pg and he had more turnovers than assists in conference play. Jahvon had 25 more assists in conference than him in 2 less games. One thing Hoya fans consistently do is not understand how good you have to be to make the league. He's a very good college player and is exciting as all heck. He''s going to make a ton of money playing pro ball somewhere, but none of the 3 main guys kids that left are legit NBA prospect, and tbh they never have been. For what it’s worth, he’s currently projected as a mid 2nd round pick in the latest mock on nbadraft.net NBADraft.net isn't really a reputable site. Guys like Givony and Vicente talk with GM's and they don't have him listed as a top 100 prospect.
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