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Post by This Just In on Mar 22, 2021 22:09:08 GMT -5
I think Shaka Smart survives due to winning the Big 12 Tournament for the first since forever Is Bill Self on the hot seat? if you read the UT board he's done. Shaka is burning up in flames. They have a fire Shaka Smart thread stickied. And are already discussing coaching options. Boosters want to buy out his contract. www.surlyhorns.com/board/index.php?/forum/3-basketball/Self is always on the hot seat if he doesn't win the national championship and obviously is expected to make the Final Four. USC is boat racing Kansas right now too
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Post by This Just In on Mar 22, 2021 22:24:13 GMT -5
Kansas is finally getting the Andy Enfield FGCU treatment
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 22, 2021 22:25:14 GMT -5
Kansas is finally getting the Andy Enfield FGCU treatment I guess big 12 was overrated too. Is Baylor all they have left
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Post by This Just In on Mar 22, 2021 22:27:25 GMT -5
If you watch us against Colorado or UConn, it’s clear we lack long athletic players. Quick kids with bounce who can finish a fast break with a flush or disrupt on defense. Recruitment has really fallen off Hopefully with the national attention that area can pickup and Ewing can bring in the much needed talent improvement
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Post by drquigley on Mar 22, 2021 22:28:02 GMT -5
Anyone else dying to see Colorado play tonight? Anyone else ready to jump out of their easy chairs if Colorado goes 6-25 from 3? DEAR GOD! I CALLED IT! And oh yeah Wright had 1 assist!
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Post by This Just In on Mar 22, 2021 22:28:51 GMT -5
Kansas is finally getting the Andy Enfield FGCU treatment I guess big 12 was overrated too. Is Baylor all they have left And the Pac 12 just wow 9-1 and Kansas is just getting taken to the woodshed.
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Post by This Just In on Mar 22, 2021 22:29:55 GMT -5
Anyone else dying to see Colorado play tonight? Anyone else ready to jump out of their easy chairs if Colorado goes 6-25 from 3? DEAR GOD! I CALLED IT! And oh yeah Wright had 1 assist! You credit more bad shooting by Colorado or Florida State's defense.
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Post by vv83 on Mar 22, 2021 22:36:40 GMT -5
the 2007 team was great. But if they had faced a team with the personnel to play small ball/5 out against us - our defense would have really struggled. Look what happened to Hibbert when the NBA moved towards small ball - he went from being an all star to being unplayable in about one season. When Atlanta spread the court against a very good Indy team in the playoffs - they barely hung on to win in 7 because Roy could not get out to the three point line to guard their center (who was a decent, but not great, shooter). Right there you could see that Roy's career was in trouble. By the end of the next season, he was done as an effective NBA player.
As for the current Hoyas - if we are going to play with a fairly traditional 5, we probably have to do what hoyainLA suggests - concede the jump shot to the guard. Our current bigs don't have the quickness to stay in front of a decent guard if they come up on them.
This is the stuff that makes basketball an endlessly interesting game. Strategy is always evolving, coaches are always searching out the adjustment to counter the opponent's adjustment. Ewing and his staff made some progress in defensive strategy this year (going away from hard hedge to mostly drop D on PnR) and in getting the players to execute better over the last 6 weeks or so of the season. But there is still a lot of work to be done both strategically and in the coaching teaching of defense. We'll have two high level athletes in the mix next year (Aminu and Riley) who both are reportedly committed defenders in terms of effort. Looking forward to seeing how the defense develops. also curious to see Mutombo against Big East competition. He is a kind of unique player defensively. He is not quick footed, and he does not fly around the court. Yet he seems to know where to be/what to do, and he is an effective shot blocker because he rarely leaves his feet. He just stands tall and uses his length and good timing to contest/block shots. It is impossible to say how this will translate, since he was so much taller than everyone he played, and the comp was not strong. But the combination of basketball IQ and good fundamental shot blocking skills makes him interesting. Even though he lacks lateral quickness, he might be smart enough to know how to give ground while still using his length to discourage/contest jump shots from guards. Again, lots to look forward to seeing in the potential of the team next season.
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Post by drquigley on Mar 22, 2021 22:39:03 GMT -5
DEAR GOD! I CALLED IT! And oh yeah Wright had 1 assist! You credit more bad shooting by Colorado or Florida State's defense. I credit FSU defense. So quick. Even when open Colorado was rushing their shots.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Mar 22, 2021 22:39:58 GMT -5
Anyone else dying to see Colorado play tonight? Anyone else ready to jump out of their easy chairs if Colorado goes 6-25 from 3? DEAR GOD! I CALLED IT! And oh yeah Wright had 1 assist! Right on the nose hahaha good call.
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Post by vv83 on Mar 22, 2021 22:40:07 GMT -5
I guess big 12 was overrated too. Is Baylor all they have left And the Pac 12 just wow 9-1 and Kansas is just getting taken to the woodshed. I had not watched USC play before tonight. After watching them tonight - I don' see how Mobley is not the top pick in the draft. Cade Cunningham is very talented. But Mobley is a 7 footer who can shoot 3s, defend then perimeter, block shots, score in the post, and pass out of double teams. He is the rarest, most valuable kind of player in the league. I think any team that passes on him in the draft will end up regretting it. I have no idea what kind of kid he is, but unless there is some kind of off court general personality issue - I would definitely take him #1. It may take him some time to build up his strength. But the skill level at his height/length is the kind of star player profile that wins NBA titles.
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Post by This Just In on Mar 22, 2021 22:45:00 GMT -5
I did not know that Andy Enfield and Bill Self were hired by Florida State's head coach Leonard Hamilton
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Post by the_way on Mar 22, 2021 22:49:27 GMT -5
I did not know that Andy Enfield and Bill Self were hired by Florida State's head coach Leonard Hamilton Hamilton was an assistant coach on the Kentucky team in 1984.
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Post by This Just In on Mar 22, 2021 22:55:18 GMT -5
Kansas Jayhawks just got it worst loss ever in the NCAA Tournament...34pt loss
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Post by bamahoya11 on Mar 22, 2021 23:01:34 GMT -5
Our poor performance made me less enthusiastic, but it was still an incredible opening weekend to the Tournament. Tons of upsets, and the Midwest I suppose is now guaranteed to produce a surprise Final Four participant. I count Houston because, despite their seed, they would be a new face.
The Big 10 was badly overrated, the PAC-12 was badly underrated. The Big East has done about as well as one could hope. I’m glad we got both Creighton and Villanova into the second weekend. I think both will struggle in the next round, but it’s good for the league to have multiple teams still playing after the first weekend. Plus, it makes our run in New York a little bit sweeter. We did beat some really good teams in Madison Square Garden, even if we couldn’t keep it going against Colorado.
Speaking of Colorado, I wish they played on Saturday like they played tonight. Teams like FSU give me hope, though, that Ewing could build a dangerous team built around big men inside. We just need the right (and more) personnel to get it done.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 22, 2021 23:32:39 GMT -5
Kansas Jayhawks just got it worst loss ever in the NCAA Tournament...34pt loss Your daughter's must be happy with their brackets given Syracuse's wins!
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 23, 2021 6:02:44 GMT -5
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Post by rhw485 on Mar 23, 2021 9:37:36 GMT -5
I'm not surprised that thread focused on Colorado but I was WAY more interested in watching LSU / Michigan than Colorado / Florida St. I'll echo others on what I saw when Michigan was at halftime and then get into that game. Florida St - Repeating what others said. Their center wasn't guarding the PG, but when you switch everything and the first action you run is a 1-5 pnr, you end up with Center on PG easily. McKinley Wright doesn't want to shoot 3s, so the C can play off a little bit, was mobile enough to cut off driving lanes, and there was nowhere to go. Should Dante have just gone under screens? Probably not but interesting nonetheless
- No, Q couldn't have done that. But not only that, you can't switch 1-5 because of Dante as much as Q. Florida St's nominal PG, whether it was Barnes or Walker someone else, doesn't get hurt by switching onto a center either. I said when the Colorado matchup was announced that I liked that one but thought Florida St was UConn on steroids, a terrible matchup. It would've been a disaster
- Honestly this is exactly what Nova does, except all of the FSU guys were like 6'8. Watch Baylor play, they're switching every single screen with guys ranging from 6'3-6'8. This isn't revolutionary, it's what a lot of teams have adopted.
- Does Ewing need to change his recruiting style? That seems like a dramatic response (I'll explain in Michigan game). He does need to have a Plan B when facing small ball lineups. Would a lineup of Beard, Riley, Aminu, Sibley, and Bile have survived? Probably not but it's closer
- That being said, no team needs 4 centers. The 3 center class never really made sense from Day 1. If you think the center can be an offensive focal point to punish small teams, then yes they make sense. But taking a 7 footer to be a simple rim runner who's not an offensive threat probably doesn't make sense. Dwight Howard got played off the court in the NBA Finals. Q was basically played off the court vs. Nova but only came back when Bile fouled out.
Michigan / LSU Once Gtown was eliminated my first thought was: "who in the tournament plays similar to Gtown?" It didn't take long to find the pretty obvious answer of Michigan. - Big man NBA assistant transitioning back to college? Yup. And this isn't a "wow look what's Howard done compared to Ewing". We can debate how dire the situation was when Ewing took over, but Michigan didn't fire their coach, he left for the NBA, all the players stayed. Not fair to compare. But they are drawing from similar experience /playbooks to an extent
- Back to the basket, traditional center? Yup
- Speedy, small PG? Yup
- Athletic wings? Yup (ours are on the way)
Throw in the fact they were playing a LSU team without a traditional center, I wanted to see what they did. Here's what I noticed: - On defense, Dickinson guarded the "worst" 3 point shooter, regardless of size. It wasn't ideal and led to some issues but that was their first attempt. That also wasn't always the nominal screener so it helped throw off LSU a little bit in that regard.
- They quickly had to pivot to a 3/4 press to slow game down. And then started mixing in 2-3 zone to prevent Dickinson from being exposed. It looked like a 2-3 zone where the second the ball was passed inside, it converted to man defense the rest of the possession. Interesting stuff
- LSU had LeBlanc guard Dickinson when he was in the game, which I thought was interesting. He was their small ball center when he was on the court for Watford
- Michigan took control in the 2nd half as LSU lack of bench became a problem and Smart / Thomas just went 1-on-1. They stopped going to pick and pop but it was there most of the night if they wanted it
- On offense, Dickinson's passing is WORLDs better than Q. They simply threw it into Dickinson, he immediately found an open cutter or perimeter player, they'd make the extra pass either for a 3 or attack closeout
- Also, Michigan does a much better job of cutting away from the ball. Terrance Williams got a layup off a Dickinson double team by diving to the hoop. We simply don't do that, it makes Q's job that much more difficult.
Hoopvision did a breakdown of the Michigan offense. If I'm on staff, I'd watch what they're doing. There's just a little bit more window dressing / creativity to their offense off the ball than what we're doing. Would be good stuff to adopt for next year's squad. I'm having trouble searching in youtube for whatever reason but I'll post the link at some point.
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 23, 2021 9:46:57 GMT -5
^^^^^ Re: Big man NBA assistant transitioning back to college comparison, Martelli > Orr. Not intended as a knock on either Ewing or Orr but Martelli has a good record as a successful college coach relative to Orr.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 23, 2021 9:51:22 GMT -5
I liked that one but thought Florida St was UConn on steroids, a terrible matchup. So steroids on steroids. And Florida State destroyed Colorado by 18 points. Beside the 14 point loss to Arizona (where Akinjo hit 5 3's) All there loses have been really close. lost by 9 to Tenessee lost by 3 to UCLA lost by 4 to Washington lost by 3 to Utah lost by 9 to Californai lost by 4 to Oregon lost by 2 to Oregon State
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