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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Mar 4, 2021 11:42:04 GMT -5
Can we also stop the talk about UConn being some beast of a team? The Big East is so-so this year. Nobody is unbeatable and when I watched UConn they struck me as a pretty good team but they also seem like they can go on cold streaks like any other team. I think we will handle the pressure better the 2nd time as you get used to it a bit. This like every other game we have played is very winnable. We were in a good spot against WVU and I think that is a much better physical team than UConn. #nobodyputsbabyinacorner
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 4, 2021 11:59:49 GMT -5
Can we also stop the talk about UConn being some beast of a team? The Big East is so-so this year. Nobody is unbeatable and when I watched UConn they struck me as a pretty good team but they also seem like they can go on cold streaks like any other team. I think we will handle the pressure better the 2nd time as you get used to it a bit. This like every other game we have played is very winnable. We were in a good spot against WVU and I think that is a much better physical team than UConn. #nobodyputsbabyinacorner I’m actually more skeptical of the Big 10 and ACC. They are able to keep their rankings in house but seem really overrated and I think the big East would handle them in head to head matchups
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Post by vv83 on Mar 4, 2021 12:08:38 GMT -5
Interesting. Not a bad option, I still think it causes a rebounding problem because Blair or Carey is still guarding Martin and it takes Bile away from the basket, and I'm not sure how Bile would do navigating ball screens because we haven't really seen him guard a primary ball handler. All of Cole's stuff came via pick and roll. But I don't hate it as an option if Blair just simply can't get it done. Cole is a problem for the Hoyas, and everyone else in the Big East. He is a very crafty ball handler, excellent pick and roll player and just makes tough shots on a regular basis. Not sure Dante, or our other guards, can do much better on him than they did last game if the decision is to defend him one on one and not help. It might be a case that whenever Cole gets into the lane on a pick and roll situation, the defense needs to sag and help on him and make him give it up. The only shooter you can't help off of is Bouknight, who is a good three point shooter. The Pooley kid can really shoot it also, but he does not play as many minutes. After watching Cole light up the Hoyas last game, and other teams in recent games, I think you need to at least try to force him to pass the ball and make someone else on UConn make shots. That may, or may not work, but at a minimum I think you need to mix up the defensive scheme on Cole to keep him from getting in a rhythm. I don't see Georgetown stopping Cole, but if they can contain him to some degree and keep him to 10-12 points, instead of 20+, I think they give themselves a better chance. Cole's shooting is the key determining factor for Uconn in most games. he is very streaky. In the first half against us, he could not hit anything. In the second half, he didn't miss. We definitely have to play good D on Cole - but his performance is often fairly independent of the quality of defense he is facing. If he is hot, he can hit contested shots all over the court. If he is off, he misses wide open shots. He's a very interesting player. Talented and tough, but the streakiness of his shooting creates an inherent inconsistency in the offense for his team.
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Post by mdtd on Mar 4, 2021 12:30:41 GMT -5
Cole is a problem for the Hoyas, and everyone else in the Big East. He is a very crafty ball handler, excellent pick and roll player and just makes tough shots on a regular basis. Not sure Dante, or our other guards, can do much better on him than they did last game if the decision is to defend him one on one and not help. It might be a case that whenever Cole gets into the lane on a pick and roll situation, the defense needs to sag and help on him and make him give it up. The only shooter you can't help off of is Bouknight, who is a good three point shooter. The Pooley kid can really shoot it also, but he does not play as many minutes. After watching Cole light up the Hoyas last game, and other teams in recent games, I think you need to at least try to force him to pass the ball and make someone else on UConn make shots. That may, or may not work, but at a minimum I think you need to mix up the defensive scheme on Cole to keep him from getting in a rhythm. I don't see Georgetown stopping Cole, but if they can contain him to some degree and keep him to 10-12 points, instead of 20+, I think they give themselves a better chance. Cole's shooting is the key determining factor for Uconn in most games. he is very streaky. In the first half against us, he could not hit anything. In the second half, he didn't miss. We definitely have to play good D on Cole - but his performance is often fairly independent of the quality of defense he is facing. If he is hot, he can hit contested shots all over the court. If he is off, he misses wide open shots. He's a very interesting player. Talented and tough, but the streakiness of his shooting creates an inherent inconsistency in the offense for his team. He's very streaky indeed. But man he torched Blair that game. I'm not sure if I trust Blair on him, but he's either got Bouknight or Cole and I'd rather have Cole beat us again. Maybe you try a Sibley or a Clark on him and just go bigger, but what Blair can do offensively if he's on is what we will need this game so that's probably not an option. Blair just has to be awake defensively and not get caught. Sure a lot of Cole's looks were from mid range (a couple steps behind the free throw line for about all of them from what I remember), but they also were all wide open. Guys at this level will burn you if they are open from there. If he can get a hand up, I'm fine, but just stay active and don't get lost.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 4, 2021 13:00:07 GMT -5
Cole's shooting is the key determining factor for Uconn in most games. he is very streaky. In the first half against us, he could not hit anything. In the second half, he didn't miss. We definitely have to play good D on Cole - but his performance is often fairly independent of the quality of defense he is facing. If he is hot, he can hit contested shots all over the court. If he is off, he misses wide open shots. He's a very interesting player. Talented and tough, but the streakiness of his shooting creates an inherent inconsistency in the offense for his team. He's very streaky indeed. But man he torched Blair that game. I'm not sure if I trust Blair on him, but he's either got Bouknight or Cole and I'd rather have Cole beat us again. Maybe you try a Sibley or a Clark on him and just go bigger, but what Blair can do offensively if he's on is what we will need this game so that's probably not an option. Blair just has to be awake defensively and not get caught. Sure a lot of Cole's looks were from mid range (a couple steps behind the free throw line for about all of them from what I remember), but they also were all wide open. Guys at this level will burn you if they are open from there. If he can get a hand up, I'm fine, but just stay active and don't get lost. If Blair can't guard either, I don't see how he has a future in any pro league. He needs to suck it up and play defense.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 17:13:09 GMT -5
Can we also stop the talk about UConn being some beast of a team? The Big East is so-so this year. Nobody is unbeatable and when I watched UConn they struck me as a pretty good team but they also seem like they can go on cold streaks like any other team. I think we will handle the pressure better the 2nd time as you get used to it a bit. This like every other game we have played is very winnable. We were in a good spot against WVU and I think that is a much better physical team than UConn. #nobodyputsbabyinacorner I’m actually more skeptical of the Big 10 and ACC. They are able to keep their rankings in house but seem really overrated and I think the big East would handle them in head to head matchups You see what Marquette did to Carolina?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 17:37:48 GMT -5
Continue:
Coach, if you're listening, please put Pickett and Bile along with Blair on Bouknight for most of the game. Also, please have Dante and Blair double teaming R. J. Cole and stop Cole before he gets to set up that pick and roll crap!
Maybe apply some full court press and full court trap to get the ball out of Cole's hands early in the possession. Make him work hard to have to get the ball back to set up his team's plays.
Start Bile or Pickett off on Bouknight and interchange the two on him for the first half of the first half. Then after Blair gets going on offense, he can go back and forth with helping Dante against Cole and checking Bouknight by himself.
Bouknight likes to drive to the basket, make sure you have a second line defender ready to cut him off (Pickett, Bile) from getting all the way to the basket when Blair is checking him.
If we disrupt the game for Cole and Bouknight, we are going to win this game!
Start Blair and get Blair going early on offense! Let him penetrate and break down the defense looking to first shoot and to pass to the shooters when he doesn't have the shots. If some of the shots don't fall but he keeps breaking down the defense, that is a good thing and we must do it early and often.
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Blair is going to be the key to this game. He has got to make good decisions when he has the ball in his hands (jump shot floater vs taking it all the way in to draw foul against the big guys vs kicking it out for the perimeter shooters to knock down the shot). He has got to break down the defense by penetrating and going at the trees. As always, Pickett and Bile gotta crash the boards when they see either Blair driving to the basket or Q going up strong. Anybody going to the basket must go all the way in and pump fake to get Sonogo and Wiley off their feet then leaning in for the shot and the foul. Everybody must attack the lanes, drive to the basket. If the shot ain't there, kick it out. If the shot is there, take it even if you miss, it is a good thing because the defense will break down.
Back to Blair, run some screens and double screens for Blair to get his mid range shot off. Bile must continue to do what he does both on offense and defense. It's important for Bile to be banging on the glass for the boards and for the layups and drop offs pass to Q. Bile and Pickett must be busy on the boards and plus hit their threes when available. Pickett and Bile must also cause havoc for Bougknight when they are guarding him and when Blair is guarding Bougknight, Pickett and Bile must be down low to help Blair out should Bougknight get passed Blair on his way to the basket (Bougknight mostly wants to get to the rim). .
Anyone who is checking Boughkight must keep him in front of them but if he gets by them, somebody must be there to pick him up before he goes to the basket. We need Q blocking shots on defense. On offense, we need Q to PUMP FAKE before he shoots. I don't think Q needs to worry about kicking it out as I happen to believe that he is more effective when he doesn't kick out. He scores when he has 10 guys hanging all over him! Q just need not to turn the ball over when he gets it down low. However, if there is a clear shot open on the perimeter and Q has collapse the defense onto him, he should pass it out to get the wide open shot from the perimeter.
Bile and Pickett must crash the lanes as soon as Q goes up for his shot and they must not wait until after he misses the shot to go after the boards. They must look for rebounding and put back opportunities as soon as they see Q is going to shoot the ball.
We need Carey to practice, practice, practice his threes because we are going to need a few of them. Dante, please be steady. Run the offense and get guys in scoring position. Please don't do too much! Dante Cole is a handful so please don't start talking to him, you're going to need your concentration. Keep Cole in front of you and. Q don't let Dante get picked when they are doing that pick and roll where Cole gets some space for his jump shot. Communicate, communicate, communicate guys especially on defense!! Let's Go Hoyas!!
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Mar 4, 2021 17:42:31 GMT -5
I thought we did a good job against Bouknight overall. He had 2 buckets in transition and then those two backscreen lobs. If we don't spot him those 8 points we're talking about how we shut him down and won the game. We did a good job keeping him from getting to the rim in the half court.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 18:03:28 GMT -5
I thought we did a good job against Bouknight overall. He had 2 buckets in transition and then those two backscreen lobs. If we don't spot him those 8 points we're talking about how we shut him down and won the game. We did a good job keeping him from getting to the rim in the half court. True statement!
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Post by blueandgray on Mar 4, 2021 18:20:28 GMT -5
I’m not sure how important it is that we win this game. Sure ...I would love to win but it’s really win the BET or bust.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 4, 2021 19:40:47 GMT -5
I’m not sure how important it is that we win this game. Sure ...I would love to win but it’s really win the BET or bust. Even with our improved play, I am not confident about being able to string together 4 strong games in 4 days. Given that, a win Friday that gets us a .500 conference record has a little swagger to it.
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Post by jwp91 on Mar 4, 2021 19:44:36 GMT -5
Just enjoy our few remaining games. Then we can argue all summer.
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Post by smokeyjack on Mar 4, 2021 20:38:27 GMT -5
Now that Gillespie is done, UConn is the best team in the BE IMO by a considerable margin and not a great matchup for GU. Not impossible to win but also would easily be our most impressive victory of the season. If last week showed you anything, it's that Huskies are A LOT more athletic than GU. And unfortunately for us, they don't rely on triple at all, so they don't have an "off night" Achilles' like Nova and Creighton.
At least it's fun to watch GU hoops again as opposed to recent seasons. VERY easy to root for this team. Lot's of grinders and overachievers who have gotten way better as the season has progressed. I wish we had a week off before BE to give Dante a rest - that poor kid looks gassed to me. Such a tall ask to hand the ball to a frosh and ask for 35 mpg of PG duties. So impressed with the way he just keeps grinding (even when he really struggles offensively like Tuesday). Think about this - he hasn't really shot the ball well, in spite of a nice stroke. He has not been a particularly effective facilitator. And he's had a Jagan-esque start as a finisher (like he's finished NOTHING).
And yet, we've all been impressed with him...and rightly so. Because he hustles. He plays good D. He puts himself in position to finish. He largely protects the ball. And he sells out.
Given how much room he has for improvement offensively, just imagine what he might become when the game slows down for him just a bit? Put me in the 12 pts, 4 assists, 2 steals camp - I think that's what he averages over his last three seasons. Just for perspective, that would be very similar if not superior (given style and speed of play of current team vs. 2005-07 teams) to Jon Wallace (10.2, 3.0, 1.0). I actually think Dante has a chance to be better in most categories. He's already considerably better defensively. I think he will be a similar leader and intangibles guy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 21:03:51 GMT -5
Now that Gillespie is done, UConn is the best team in the BE IMO by a considerable margin and not a great matchup for GU. Not impossible to win but also would easily be our most impressive victory of the season. If last week showed you anything, it's that Huskies are A LOT more athletic than GU. And unfortunately for us, they don't rely on triple at all, so they don't have an "off night" Achilles' like Nova and Creighton. At least it's fun to watch GU hoops again as opposed to recent seasons. VERY easy to root for this team. Lot's of grinders and overachievers who have gotten way better as the season has progressed. I wish we had a week off before BE to give Dante a rest - that poor kid looks gassed to me. Such a tall ask to hand the ball to a frosh and ask for 35 mpg of PG duties. So impressed with the way he just keeps grinding (even when he really struggles offensively like Tuesday). Think about this - he hasn't really shot the ball well, in spite of a nice stroke. He has not been a particularly effective facilitator. And he's had a Jagan-esque start as a finisher (like he's finished NOTHING). And yet, we've all been impressed with him...and rightly so. Because he hustles. He plays good D. He puts himself in position to finish. He largely protects the ball. And he sells out. Given how much room he has for improvement offensively, just imagine what he might become when the game slows down for him just a bit? Put me in the 12 pts, 4 assists, 2 steals camp - I think that's what he averages over his last three seasons. Just for perspective, that would be very similar if not superior (given style and speed of play of current team vs. 2005-07 teams) to Jon Wallace (10.2, 3.0, 1.0). I actually think Dante has a chance to be better in most categories. He's already considerably better defensively. I think he will be a similar leader and intangibles guy. I agree totally what you're saying about UConn athleticism. They are definitely the most athletic team in the Big East. Because of their athleticism, their defense also hound our guys on the perimeter. It is important that we use some screens to get Blair and Carey open and it is important that we drive to the basket to try to get fouls and kick outs for perimeter shots if we are not able to get the layups.
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Post by wsdhoya on Mar 4, 2021 21:28:51 GMT -5
I’m not sure how important it is that we win this game. Sure ...I would love to win but it’s really win the BET or bust. Even with our improved play, I am not confident about being able to string together 4 strong games in 4 days. Given that, a win Friday that gets us a .500 conference record has a little swagger to it. Agreed. No point worrying about the tournament or the NIT right now because it's unrealistic, just take it game by game and focus on playing better and better. I'd love to beat UCon and win one game in the BET. That would wrap up a very impressive season all things considered. There are a lot of power six teams, Georgetown included, that could have made the tournament or NIT if there was a full non conference slate. We only played 5 non conference games, losing to 3 quad 1 teams (including Navy) and went 2-3. If we had 4 more cupcakes and maybe one quality OOC win then we'd be up to 7-3 before big east play, maybe 6-3 if we didn't want another tough opponent. That plus what we've done in conference would have us solidly in the NIT, and while that is not at all an acceptable place for Georgetown basketball, it is better than sitting at home in March. We've had a very encouraging last 9 games so let's finish strong and worry about the postseason in years to come. The clock is ticking on the program's remaining relevancy if we can't get to the tournament so hopefully in the next two seasons that goal is accomplished.
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Post by bigelephant on Mar 4, 2021 22:31:10 GMT -5
^ I am not sweating it. We just gonna do fine.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Mar 5, 2021 8:37:10 GMT -5
Just enjoy our few remaining games. Then we can argue all summer. Don't leave out Spring and Fall!!!
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Post by dchoya72 on Mar 5, 2021 9:02:23 GMT -5
He's untested, but if Kobe Clark is healthy, I would like to see him defend Boughknight sometimes. Kobe is very long limbed and comfortable on the perimeter. Coaches decision of course.
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Post by bearsandbulls on Mar 5, 2021 9:26:08 GMT -5
^ I am not sweating it. We just gonna do fine. Actually we already have I would say. Yup, we all want more, but how this team has come together and taken down teams above it in the standings is just plain fun. Everything else is a bonus and a tease for next year and after. Most improved team in the BEAST thru the course of the year. Not there yet, but a work in progress is always good to follow.
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Post by dchoya72 on Mar 5, 2021 10:04:11 GMT -5
^ I am not sweating it. We just gonna do fine. Actually we already have I would say. Yup, we all want more, but how this team has come together and taken down teams above it in the standings is just plain fun. Everything else is a bonus and a tease for next year and after. Most improved team in the BEAST thru the course of the year. Not there yet, but a work in progress is always good to follow. I think it is growth. There has been much speculation and suspicion by some on this board about the abilities of our coaching staff to develop our players, to apply useful strategies, call timeouts, insert plays, etc., etc , etc,! Ewing and staff have implemented a great style of play, applied different defensive schemes, and recruited good talent in the face of limitations. I think our record over the past years should allow basketball prospects a vision of whether they want to be a contributing part of this program. The answer should be yes! The program offers great TV exposure, competition at a high level against nationally ranked teams and great educational facilities in a beautiful, diverse, cultural and vibrant city. Georgetown and its basketball program offers a great deal to prospects. And now we are winning, and getting better year-by-year. There is a lot to be said for that!! It should be attractive to great talent.
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