RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Sept 18, 2022 14:46:36 GMT -5
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Post by hoyatables on Sept 19, 2022 13:42:16 GMT -5
I did get the chance to attend the Zoom call with the community providing an overview of the Henle Rebuild project. Here are the bullets from the top two slides: Project Overview- New Henle will replace ~470 beds with ~730 beds
- Fulfills Campus Plan requirement to add 244 on-campus beds by 2030 (5 years early)
- Combined with past projects, the Henle reconstruction will result in:
- 720+ new on-campus beds added since 2012 - $75M invested to renovate existing on-campus beds since 2020 - Project expected to begin with demolition in May 2023 and conclude in time for Fall 2025
- Campus Plan requires Georgetown to offer no fewer than 5,438 on-campus beds
- During construction, campus hotel will be repurposed (~300) and existing capacity optimized (~70) to create ~370 replacement beds
- Commitment to address the ~100 student bed "gap" has been developed - and supported by the Georgetown Community Partnership - based on increasing campus occupancy such that an equal or greater number of undergrads will be housed on campus as in a typical semester before Henle is demolished
Timeline and Next Steps- Preliminary presentations made to ANC 2E and 3D on May 31 and June 1, respectively
- Campus Plan Amendment and Further Processing Application filed with the Zoning Commission in June
- Design filed with OGB in May and Concept Approval Secured on September 1
- Scheduled to present again to ANC 2E and 3D on October 3 and 12, respectively
- Zoning Commission hearing scheduled for November 3 - approval sought for:
- Campus Plan Amendment and Further Processing Application
- Variance relief from height setback requirement to accommodate top floor near boundary with Visitation
- Special exception relief for multiple penthouses
- Special exception relief from loading requirements to allow shared loading
- Demolition to begin in May 2023 and construction to conclude by Fall 2025
And you didn't say hi?
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Sept 19, 2022 19:16:08 GMT -5
And you didn't say hi? Sorry, DA, didn't want to out myself to the neighbors as a Friend of The U
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Post by RusskyHoya on Oct 6, 2022 17:51:25 GMT -5
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Post by RusskyHoya on Oct 7, 2022 17:51:51 GMT -5
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Post by DFW HOYA on Oct 7, 2022 18:16:04 GMT -5
"The plan aims to promote “interconnected campus systems that together promote environmental, academic, social, and fiscal vitality” through the restructuring and construction of old and new spaces." Sounds like that came straight from the PR office. I guess "more square footage" isn't as popular. That said, why doesn't someone cut to the chase and raze Reiss? There's a lot more "interconnected campus systems" possible on that footprint which could support offices, classes or, and I'll go on a limb here, the kind of home for the SFS which is constrained in what is now a 40 year old ICC. Jamming another ill-fitted building on a tiny chunk of land still doesn't address Reiss' age and deferred maintenance. A new building at Reiss combined with a gutting of the ICC opens a lot more more doors than simply a Regents annex.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Oct 9, 2022 22:18:54 GMT -5
"The plan aims to promote “interconnected campus systems that together promote environmental, academic, social, and fiscal vitality” through the restructuring and construction of old and new spaces." Sounds like that came straight from the PR office. I guess "more square footage" isn't as popular. That said, why doesn't someone cut to the chase and raze Reiss? There's a lot more "interconnected campus systems" possible on that footprint which could support offices, classes or, and I'll go on a limb here, the kind of home for the SFS which is constrained in what is now a 40 year old ICC. Jamming another ill-fitted building on a tiny chunk of land still doesn't address Reiss' age and deferred maintenance. A new building at Reiss combined with a gutting of the ICC opens a lot more more doors than simply a Regents annex. Hah, you wish the Georgetown PR office was that good. That's clearly from one of the contracted firms (or, who knows, maybe from hoyatables ) As for Reiss... given its extremely central location, any construction there would have to be very carefully planned and executed. The biggest challenge with razing Reiss is that full teardowns are very environmentally unfriendly. Not impossible, of course, even on Georgetown's campus - see Kober-Cogan, for example. But there would have to be a huge benefit to just the cost. Taking the usable space of Reiss - to say nothing of ICC - offline would create a major space crunch, so the "ill-fitted building on a tiny chunk of land" is a necessary precondition for being able to absorb some of that demand and make a fundamental transformation of Reiss (teardown, internal gutting and retrofitting, expansion, etc.) feasible.
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Oct 19, 2022 7:27:23 GMT -5
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Post by KenteKrazies on Oct 29, 2022 15:14:57 GMT -5
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Post by boxout05 on Oct 30, 2022 17:29:38 GMT -5
Odds “New Building South of Regents” is the actual name, following in the tradition of New South, New North, Village C East and West, etc?
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Post by DFW HOYA on Oct 30, 2022 22:06:16 GMT -5
Odds “New Building South of Regents” is the actual name, following in the tradition of New South, New North, Village C East and West, etc? If they get a donor, it gets a name; if not, it'll likely be called Regents. Hopefully some trendsters won't name it "SoRe" or somesuch nonsense.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Nov 1, 2022 10:25:55 GMT -5
The moat (dragon-filled?) around the precious neighbors remains firmly in place:
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Post by RusskyHoya on Dec 11, 2022 14:48:21 GMT -5
New Henle moves forward:
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Post by boxout05 on Dec 11, 2022 20:30:25 GMT -5
Russky, can you elaborate on your last post from Nov… what does it mean students won’t have the option of living in West Gtown, Foxhall, Burleith, etc?
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Post by DFW HOYA on Dec 11, 2022 21:37:25 GMT -5
I missed the reference to American Campus Communities (ACS) when this first posted. This would be a great story for The HOYA or Voice to look into but they are too deep into identity politics to cover much in the way of investigative campus journalism.
ACS is a REIT that builds and manages college housing that was bought this summer by Blackstone for $13 billion. In exchange for building the dorm at little or no cost to Georgetown, ACS get a long term deal to lease and manage it; put another way, in most cases it's a landlord. They have 138,000 beds nationally at 200 schools: a lot of them state schools, but also at places like Princeton, Northeastern, and Seton Hall.
At some schools, students pay ACS the rent directly, at others, it's a pass-through. Georgetown saves the cost of construction for a new 750 bed dorm ($125-150 million), they can get out of the deferred maintenance on the existing Henle footprint, and squeezes more kids on campus much faster, in exchange for the housing revenue on the property.
Privatization is not altogether new at GU, though it may ruffle some of its blue-state sensibilities. The University maintained its own cooks and dining staff into the early 1960's before farming out food service--first to Macke, then Marriott and now Aramark. The Leavey Center is managed by a third party and MedStar runs the hospital.
It will be interesting to see how/if ACS rebrands the dorm because it will be theirs at its opening.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Dec 12, 2022 18:27:51 GMT -5
Russky, can you elaborate on your last post from Nov… what does it mean students won’t have the option of living in West Gtown, Foxhall, Burleith, etc? The Campus Plan was approved with the understanding that undergrads would be housed on campus for three years (up from the two that has been required before) so as to - among other things - stay out of the neighbors' hair. As I understand it, this new 'flexibility' allows them to live off-campus an extra year, but it can't be in the neighbors' backyard. Think of it as being akin to year-long study abroad - they don't care that you're not on campus so long as you're not nearby. Rosslyn or Foggy Bottom is far enough.
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Post by boxout05 on Dec 13, 2022 0:11:24 GMT -5
So students aren’t allowed to live in Burleith, or they are if it’s their first year off campus and not their second? How is this policed - does the school not permit you to enroll in class if your mailing address is in a no-go zone? Do kids sign an affidavit? Are there still landlords trying to rent 8 students to a house or have all of them been sent to the stocks?
I get the intent, it just seems impractical.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Dec 18, 2022 12:26:43 GMT -5
So students aren’t allowed to live in Burleith, or they are if it’s their first year off campus and not their second? How is this policed - does the school not permit you to enroll in class if your mailing address is in a no-go zone? Do kids sign an affidavit? Are there still landlords trying to rent 8 students to a house or have all of them been sent to the stocks? I get the intent, it just seems impractical. Yeah, just think of it as "you get to live in one of the surrounding neighborhoods for one year only." As far as the mechanics of enforcement go, students are required to provide their off-campus address, and there are various sanctions for non-compliance: neighborhood.georgetown.edu/georgetown-students/policies-know/local-off-campus-address/As ever, what compliance actually looks like in practice is a different question. How many students list one address but actually live somewhere else? Who knows. As far as the local slumlords, the proliferation of both University-sponsored and other tools for validating rental/landlord quality has cut down on a fair amount of it, I think...but there will always be some number of people for whom low price is critical and are willing to accept substandard conditions. How many landlords out there are willing to provide the supply to meet that demand, I don't know, but it's surely not zero.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Jan 4, 2023 13:04:41 GMT -5
Definitely a better place for it than the old spot on 37th
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Post by boxout05 on Jan 4, 2023 20:53:45 GMT -5
Unless you’re living at 3623 O St…
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