Dug McDaniel 2022 verbal to Michigan

[justsaying]

need his own thread

[hoyaguy]

Saw that he talked about committing sooner rather than later, don't know much, but would be nice to keep recruiting momentum going if he committed in the coming months especially with a local.

[ColumbiaHeightsHoya]

He would be a great four year player. He has some Chris Lykes in him. Quick, small, plays on a great team. I really hope he comes to Georgetown.

[RBHoya]

The obvious reason to want him is that he's a unanimous Top 100 player who could be a 4 year starter for us. But the fact that he's a point guard from a high profile school in the area means that he'd be even more impactful than a player of comparable ranking. I think a lot of other recruits from the area would be intrigued by the idea of joining forces with him and having him set the table for them. Following up the Aminu commitment with a McDaniel commitment would send a loud and clear message to other recruits, especially in the area, that Georgetown is building something to be reckoned with, even with our on-court challenges in recent years.

It feels like Michigan is the favorite, but it would seem a bad idea for him to line up behind Frankie Collins. Don't think there's enough playing time to keep both of those two happy for 3 seasons, nevermind whomever else they may bring in.

[hoyas89]

He should consult Terrance Williams

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It feels to me like a McDonald or McDaniel situation. (But not McDowell's. Shady.)

I don't know how the PG situation is gonna turn out for next year, but it sure seems like Pat's still interested in getting some help there. If it's a '21 HS kid (McDonald, Brantley, etc) then you've got Harris+Beard+other21 at the PG spot -- and that's pretty crowded to bring in a '22 kid like Dug, or maybe even grad xfer help.

If he's confident that he can bring in McDaniel -- and he likes him better anyway -- then maybe Pat concentrates on finding that 1 year grad xfer guy to hold his spot for a season.

In a perfect world, maybe that's the preference. You get an experienced guy who can handle duties for next year, and then you get the guy you really want in DM.

But... a bird in hand (another '21 3/4* kid) might be too good to pass up. And if lots of guys end up taking advantage of a 1yr chance to switch teams... this "choice" may be moot.

[hoyaguy]

We definitely seem to be at an interesting crossroads with PE still pursuing '21 players, so could get '21 pg with risk of losing '22 PGs, a grad transfer to bridge the gap, just wait for a '22, or a PF at any level. I am very curious to see how this plays out, but I hope Dug decides soon to give some direction as to what we are doing.

[ColumbiaHeightsHoya]

Jan 26, 2021 13:18:21 GMT -5 hoyaguy said:

We definitely seem to be at an interesting crossroads with PE still pursuing '21 players, so could get '21 pg with risk of losing '22 PGs, a grad transfer to bridge the gap, just wait for a '22, or a PF at any level. I am very curious to see how this plays out, but I hope Dug decides soon to give some direction as to what we are doing.

That shouldn't effect Dug. Beard sounds like a combo guard who can play point vs. the other way around. With the type of D beard, aminu and Riley could bring, Dug would be the perfect fit. He played lots of minutes early in high school with Keels and Roach so it's not like he doesn't know how this could work.

[trillesthoya]

Michigan fans are extremely confident McDaniel is theirs. Apparently he is very close to Juwan Howard. The benefit we have going for us is the fact that we're local but also that we will have plenty of minutes for him to play while Michigan will be packed at point for years to come.

[justsaying]

Keeping the pg line of succession going and with experience of previous pgs helps to eliminate the need for the grad xfer pg going forward.

[hoyazeke]

Jan 26, 2021 14:25:17 GMT -5 trillesthoya said:

Michigan fans are extremely confident McDaniel is theirs. Apparently he is very close to Juwan Howard. The benefit we have going for us is the fact that we're local but also that we will have plenty of minutes for him to play while Michigan will be packed at point for years to come.

If this kid goes to UM behind Collins then he either doesn't care about playing time or is extremely confident. No way Howard plays a backcourt with two 6ft and below guards. Dug would be relegating himself to backup minutes for at least 2yrs.

[ColumbiaHeightsHoya]

Jan 26, 2021 14:59:41 GMT -5 hoyazeke said:

Jan 26, 2021 14:25:17 GMT -5 trillesthoya said:

Michigan fans are extremely confident McDaniel is theirs. Apparently he is very close to Juwan Howard. The benefit we have going for us is the fact that we're local but also that we will have plenty of minutes for him to play while Michigan will be packed at point for years to come.

If this kid goes to UM behind Collins then he either doesn't care about playing time or is extremely confident. No way Howard plays a backcourt with two 6ft and below guards. Dug would be relegating himself to backup minutes for at least 2yrs.

I wish this was true but nobody wants to play a freshman point guard tons of minutes. Look at us with Akinjo. He had a great year but we weren't great. If Collins would be a sophomore, Dug would still get minutes. I think the argument is more that Dug would be a great fit for what we are trying to do. He would slot nicely along D. Harris and would get plenty of minutes his freshman year and we have the combo guards with athleticism to offset his height on the D end. I just feel like he has to measure whether playing near home or not is what he wants.

Now Williams is another case. That kid has competition today at his spot and Michigan has two or three five star kids at the PF slot coming in right behind him. He will be in a tougher spot for minutes probably throughout his Michigan career.

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He calls Juwan Howard "uncle" and has played with his kid since he was little. UM is in pretty good with a 5 star point who currently plays with Juwan's son, so maybe something happens there though.

[wponds]

And I'm pretty sure he has a good relationship with Williams and Dickson (WCAC and Team Takeover) who are in Ann Arbor already. Hoping for the best here, regardless

[hoyazeke]

Jan 26, 2021 16:14:59 GMT -5 @yaboynyp said:

He calls Juwan Howard "uncle" and has played with his kid since he was little. UM is in pretty good with a 5 star point who currently plays with Juwan's son, so maybe something happens there though.

Are you saying Dug calls Juwan "uncle"? And you are saying that UM has 4* Frankie and are in good shape with a 5*(Bradley?)kid, who Dug will be fighting for PT?

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Jan 27, 2021 6:49:04 GMT -5 hoyazeke said:

Jan 26, 2021 16:14:59 GMT -5 @yaboynyp said:

He calls Juwan Howard "uncle" and has played with his kid since he was little. UM is in pretty good with a 5 star point who currently plays with Juwan's son, so maybe something happens there though.

Are you saying Dug calls Juwan "uncle"? And you are saying that UM has 4* Frankie and are in good shape with a 5*(Bradley?)kid, who Dug will be fighting for PT?

Yes, but don’t think they wouldn’t take both Dug and Bradley. Bradley doesn’t appear close to deciding fwiw but did speak highly of UM.

[oldbigeast]

GTown has no chance. He went to play behind Roach with no fear. I can't see Dug worrying about playing time because of Frankie Collins. He's confident he'll find his way on the floor.

[hoyazeke]

Jan 28, 2021 6:48:45 GMT -5 oldbigeast said:

GTown has no chance. He went to play behind Roach with no fear. I can't see Dug worrying about playing time because of Frankie Collins. He's confident he'll find his way on the floor.

That is a little different. Roach is 2yrs older. Even the most confident person understands that you aren't starting as a sophomore over a 5* senior. But this is a more highly ranked sophomore and possibly a even more highly ranked freshman. I don't care either way really but I think it's NBA career suicide if he chooses that situation.

[trotters10]

I agree it's different, and it's a big difference to compare high school to college. High school you're auditioning for colleges/universities. College Basketball you're auditioning for your pro career (whether it's the NBA or overseas). I don't think these young 3-5 star players coming out of high school these days want to sit on the bench or play a limited role behind someone for more than a year. Frankie is a damn good point guard (but likely a 3-4 year guy), Dug would have to really be something to start in front of him -- but in today's game it's also possible they see a lot of the floor at the same time if they're that good.

It seems Georgetown has a legitimate chance. There is some buzz around Georgetown right now. The team may suck currently, but it's a serious recruiting class coming in next year and as tragic as JTII's passing was, it also really put Georgetown basketball into the news -- in terms of his legacy and what he was to his players. Georgetown basketball was all over ESPN for a good while there, and there was several articles written about how special the program was (and hopefully what it can be going forward). Furthermore, if Georgetown doesn't land Brantley or A.J. Neal in the 2021 class (assuming they are still chasing a '21 PG?), the Hoyas will be wide open for a PG to walk in in 2022 and be the starter. I like Dante, but he's got work to do. If Dug is as good as I (and many) think he is, he could walk into a starting role with what should be a pretty good cast around him, even better if Aminu is around for a year 2.

AND OF COURSE, he has a 1 year baby sister based in DC, which he mentioned in his recruitment specifically playing a key role in his interest in G'Town. That's a huge deal, with that age gap I would think he probably feels like a parent to her in many ways. Seeing children develop (specifically at that age) is a really special thing. I think we have a legit shot, I think Dug is a fantastic player so I'm being very optimistic!

[hoya73]

Thanks, Trotters10. That's a really nice bowl of cornflakes to start with this morning. I'm hoping you-know-who, the Voldemort of this board isn't, for once, compieled to p**s in it.