prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Dec 1, 2020 20:59:03 GMT -5
So other then Coppin St, any other game we win this year will be an upset. The bar was so low, I didn’t expect much for this team, but it did include beating Navy at home. Maybe we play to the opposition? Trying to be glass half-full... We'll find out on Sunday.
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saxagael
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Post by saxagael on Dec 1, 2020 21:01:25 GMT -5
Not sure we have the right point guard in! The guard Davis killed us time and time again! I've been sort of curious how point guard would he handled this year. Carey and Blair have played off guard roles. The player whom I thought could be a good option took an additional year at a prep school and will arrive next year. The year is still young, there was no summer play, a shortened practice period, and no early scrimmages. The team is young and other than four players, they haven't played together. The players don't know where each other are going to be and players are spending too much time sorting out whom to pass to, being tentative in making the pass, and spend too much time looking at where they are going to pass. Ewing seems to have been building to a team and teams that defend well, get the ball out in transition, and score outside or inside quickly. Then get back on defense and pressure back up the court. The offense hasn't been getting set up by the defense yet and that defense takes a bit of work and there just hasn't been time to build this. Last year when Ewing was able to get his teams to played this way they did really well, but they had an insanely short bench and playing high energy and exertion type of ball isn't great with a short bench. Getting to this takes a bit of time getting the team comfortable with each other and knowing who is where and how they play. That said, with hope... This loss sucked. It will get better.
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Post by dchoya72 on Dec 1, 2020 21:02:54 GMT -5
I don't share your opinion! There were a lot of missed shots tonight and poor defense! JHarris 12 pts, 7asts, 1 TO DHarris 0 pts, 0 asts, 0-3 FG Don’t really know that my opinion is all that subjective in this case. Dante might end up being fine or even good. But he’s a frosh. And tonight he played like one, and he was allowed to play like one for an extended period while a guy who played 4 yrs of hoops at Arkansas sat and watched while our chance to knockout Navy turned into a dogfight.[</quote] Curious what was Jalen Harris' shooting percentage? Who was the guard Davis was killing? Who was trying to check him? I was frustrated by the game! There is room for growth by the entire team.
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 1, 2020 21:03:59 GMT -5
These are the best ideas he’s got. It’s hopeless.
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Post by daveg023 on Dec 1, 2020 21:05:56 GMT -5
The sentiments shared earlier that this wasn’t that bad a game from this team sum up the problem best, and I totally agree. This is not a BE caliber roster and unfortunately our staff isn’t good enough to do more with less.
While we have had terrible losses to low/mid majors in the past 6 years, never once did I feel like we weren’t the more talented team. Tonight felt like if you handed out generic jerseys with no colors or logos, this would have looked like two Patriot League teams playing against each other.
Say what you want about Govan, Yurt, Mac, Akinjo etc., but when they were on the court against lesser competition, the talent superiority was clear. There is not one person on our roster that possesses that quality.
I’m beginning to actually think that we grossly underachieved for some of the talent we had, and any wins we did enjoy covered up the coaching deficiencies. Now without the talent, asking the staff to conjure up magic to win a few games seems like a huge ask.
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Post by saxagael on Dec 1, 2020 21:06:01 GMT -5
There are potential point guard candidates, but they need coaching (making the switch to solid point guard takes time, but also takes a good coach who has been a solid point guard. Hmm, if only there was a point guard like Chris Wright around who played PG really well, played years of pro (Europe counts) and is a good coach.
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Post by mdtd on Dec 1, 2020 21:06:12 GMT -5
This was the worst coaching performance of Ewing's career. It was an embarrassing, unmitigated disaster. We can't stop the pick and roll and Davis had everything he wanted either one on one or one on none after our terrible pick and roll defense. And Wahab getting a touch every time down?!? When he's not passing out and our guards aren't able to penetrate, nothing will work. Our team shot it well and we still were awful. The defense today was terrible. Nothing short of awful. Everyone was open and the scouting report was awful. This coaching performance was awful. Tim and Bile getting as many touches as they did is just part of how terrible this coaching performance was. Tim has no post moves and yet he's getting the ball on the block. Bile's ball-handling is awful and he is out of control in the lane either putting up a terrible shot (if he's lucky he gets fouled, to miss 75% of his free throws) and there was minimal ball movement. Pickett didn't have the ball enough. Jalen Harris had the highest usage rate for a long part of this game. Wahab did nothing with his back to the basket. Sibley and Malcolm not seeing the floor is indefensible. There is no chance Sibley is worse than Tim and Bile's performance tonight. He's better than both imo and I don't think it's close. Tim was not good at all again. Malcolm is actually mobile defensively and wouldn't have three goaltendings on the season (and I don't think any of those shots would've gone in). Ewing's coaching didn't work. MARYLAND BEAT THIS TEAM BY 30!!!!!! A UMD TEAM WHICH ISN'T GONNA MAKE THE TOURNEY BEAT THEM BY 30. And we couldn't even win. Our offense had no movement. Pickett played well. Harris was improved. That's it. Dante Harris looked out of place all game long. This team doesn't belong on the same floor as West Virginia. The program is in the dumpster because we failed to make a move this summer. I shouldn't have convinced myself that keeping Ewing could pay off. Where IU goes on a neutral floor and blows out Provy and Tom Crean had the number one pick, we can't beat Navy. So yeah, Aminu Mohammed is coming. This was embarrassing. Wes Miller dominates a good Little Rock team, has a Lou Henson watch list caliber PG (who would be the best player on our team... wow player development. It's almost like playing young guys pays off!!!!!! Like idk your best recruit in Sibley) and plays a great, tenacious defense and we chose this... He took a UNCG program out of a dumpster, while our coach took our team out the dumpster, just to throw us right back in. I'm embarrassed. Getting blown out by WVU is one thing. They are an excellent team and we are rebuilding. But getting beat badly by Navy who looked like world-beaters?!? Utterly embarrassing. The coaching was dreadful. There are no excuses for that. And if I hear one person even mention the lack of practice, I'm gonna lose my mind again. Again.
That felt good to get off my chest.
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Post by iowa80 on Dec 1, 2020 21:06:26 GMT -5
Two words: coaching loss.
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Post by mdtd on Dec 1, 2020 21:10:55 GMT -5
JHarris 12 pts, 7asts, 1 TO DHarris 0 pts, 0 asts, 0-3 FG Don’t really know that my opinion is all that subjective in this case. Dante might end up being fine or even good. But he’s a frosh. And tonight he played like one, and he was allowed to play like one for an extended period while a guy who played 4 yrs of hoops at Arkansas sat and watched while our chance to knockout Navy turned into a dogfight.[</quote] Curious what was Jalen Harris' shooting percentage? Who was the guard Davis was killing? Who was trying to check him? I was frustrated by the game! There is room for growth by the entire team. He killed them both and our teams atrocious team defense. Not just Harris. Dante wasn't good today. He's shown potential, but he was not good today. Jalen was much better on the offensive end. Neither were very good on the other end, though I would agree that Dante was probably better. But, he played 12 minutes and didn't record a single stat.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Dec 1, 2020 21:11:30 GMT -5
Gonna be a loooong season. We will find out if Patrick can coach. So far not good at all.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2020 21:12:22 GMT -5
These are the best ideas he’s got. It’s hopeless. Ewing can't get out on the court and play for the kids too. What he is saying is correct, the team needs to guard better especially the team's opposing point guard. Wahab needs to come higher up the key to cut off the guard penetration by people like Cam who uses screens to get deep into the paint. There were two bad shots by Blair and Harris back to back when we were up by 7 or 8 points. On those bad shots, The Midshipmen got the rebound and scored quickly which got them back into the game. Those two bad shots taken by Blair and Harris were quick threes. Blair shot was a brick and Harris shot was an air ball. So yeah, what Ewing is saying is correct. What else do you expect for him to say?
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Post by hoyainla on Dec 1, 2020 21:12:51 GMT -5
The sentiments shared earlier that this wasn’t that bad a game from this team sum up the problem best, and I totally agree. This is not a BE caliber roster and unfortunately our staff isn’t good enough to do more with less. While we have had terrible losses to low/mid majors in the past 6 years, never once did I feel like we weren’t the more talented team. Tonight felt like if you handed out generic jerseys with no colors or logos, this would have looked like two Patriot League teams playing against each other. Say what you want about Govan, Yurt, Mac, Akinjo etc., but when they were on the court against lesser competition, the talent superiority was clear. There is not one person on our roster that possesses that quality. I’m beginning to actually think that we grossly underachieved for some of the talent we had, and any wins we did enjoy covered up the coaching deficiencies. Now without the talent, asking the staff to conjure up magic to win a few games seems like a huge ask. I've said it for the past few years. The greatest trick Ewing has pulled is convincing the fans the past teams had no talent and that was the problem, not him. You are seeing no talent now. His past teams had plenty and we did underachieve because of his coaching.
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 1, 2020 21:12:52 GMT -5
We gave up 49 points to Navy in a half. Just contemplate that.
This is likely the worst Georgetown team since my beloved (?) senior year 3-23 team. It's going to be a really long season. And still, Sibley can't even get a smell.
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 1, 2020 21:16:18 GMT -5
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Post by hsaxon on Dec 1, 2020 21:16:49 GMT -5
Rock bottom was last year with all of the departures and turmoil. You are now seeing the aftermath. Blair,Pickett, and Q are solid role, support type players. Go-to-guys to carry a team on a consistent basis in the Big East? Remains to be seen. This year is pretty much a wash, unless something drastically changes. Ewing has to recruit AND figure out how to coach defense. Next year's class better be legit and he needs to hire a d-coordinator as an assistant. I was surprised that there were no new assistants this year. It does not look good.
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Post by prhoya on Dec 1, 2020 21:17:43 GMT -5
The only saving grace is that no one left home to watch that mess. No urgency; poor substitution patterns; low basketball IQ plays; non preparation for close/late situations; it was truly a tour de force. What does the coaching staff do to prepare this team? Previously, we have wondered how Pat manages his coaching duties with recruiting demands, how much time does Pat actually spend coaching the team, etc... But, given the pandemic's travel restrictions, Pat and staff are in DC full-time. There really is no excuse to having a team unprepared to play vs. a team of Navy's caliber.
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 1, 2020 21:18:06 GMT -5
These are the best ideas he’s got. It’s hopeless. Ewing can't get out on the court and play for the kids too. What he is saying is correct, the team needs to guard better especially the team's opposing point guard. Wahab needs to come higher up the key to cut off the guard penetration by people like Cam who uses screens to get deep into the paint. There were two bad shots by Blair and Harris back to back when we were up by 7 or 8 points. On those bad shots, The Midshipmen got the rebound and scored quickly which got them back into the game. Those two bad shots taken by Blair and Harris were quick threes. Blair shot was a brick and Harris shot was an air ball. So yeah, what Ewing is saying is correct. What else do you expect for him to say? It doesn’t matter what he says in the press conference. But it seems like this is what he’s saying in practice and what passes for coaching from this guy. He’s really, really bad at this and needs to find something else to do ASAP.
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Post by mdtd on Dec 1, 2020 21:18:12 GMT -5
These are the best ideas he’s got. It’s hopeless. Ewing can't get out on the court and play for the kids too. What he is saying is correct, the team needs to guard better especially the team's opposing point guard. Wahab needs to come higher up the key to cut off the guard penetration by people like Cam who uses screens to get deep into the paint. There were two bad shots by Blair and Harris back to back when we were up by 7 or 8 points. On those bad shots, The Midshipmen got the rebound and scored quickly which got them back into the game. Those two bad shots taken by Blair and Harris were quick threes. Blair shot was a brick and Harris shot was an air ball. So yeah, what Ewing is saying is correct. What else do you expect for him to say? What he's doing is not taking accountability for his horrible coaching performance. The team defense was awful. Don't blame the players you have every single time. It's not a coincidence that our defenses have been awful for Ewing's entire tenure. Wahab's feet are slow, but he's also giving up the middle of the floor and multiple angles to attack for their guards. Why again? You think that's Wahab and has nothing to do with our PnR defensive scheme? And two bad shots excuse the entire game of no offensive movement??? And guys taking pullup threes instead of attacking the middle has nothing to do with coaching? I expect the coach to take come accountability for our putrid defense and our lazy offense tonight. Cam Davis getting any shot he wanted isn't solely on our guys. Even if Harris was getting torched, he needs to make an adjustment. Oh, and call a TO when your opponent is on a big run.
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Post by hsaxon on Dec 1, 2020 21:19:58 GMT -5
Not sure we have the right point guard in! The guard Davis killed us time and time again! I've been sort of curious how point guard would he handled this year. Carey and Blair have played off guard roles. The player whom I thought could be a good option took an additional year at a prep school and will arrive next year. The year is still young, there was no summer play, a shortened practice period, and no early scrimmages. The team is young and other than four players, they haven't played together. The players don't know where each other are going to be and players are spending too much time sorting out whom to pass to, being tentative in making the pass, and spend too much time looking at where they are going to pass. Ewing seems to have been building to a team and teams that defend well, get the ball out in transition, and score outside or inside quickly. Then get back on defense and pressure back up the court. The offense hasn't been getting set up by the defense yet and that defense takes a bit of work and there just hasn't been time to build this. Last year when Ewing was able to get his teams to played this way they did really well, but they had an insanely short bench and playing high energy and exertion type of ball isn't great with a short bench. Getting to this takes a bit of time getting the team comfortable with each other and knowing who is where and how they play. That said, with hope... This loss sucked. It will get better. We looked like a really poor basketball team tonight. Lots of poor shots, poor defense.
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Post by hsaxon on Dec 1, 2020 21:23:14 GMT -5
We gave up 49 points to Navy in a half. Just contemplate that. This is likely the worst Georgetown team since my beloved (?) senior year 3-23 team. It's going to be a really long season. And still, Sibley can't even get a smell. Yes, I was there for 3-23. We are in rough shape. Can we get in Patriot League basketball?
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