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A principle Obama/Biden happily ignored to cram through the Iran Nuke deal as they sent pallets of cash…
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Probably too nuanced for those who receive their talking points from Fox "News," Newsmax and/or OAN and whose experience in the world at large may perhaps only be described as parochial. Did you even realize that such a tribunal existed? How's that Delaware County vote results working out? Or was it fraudulent? "I am a registered Republican because I believe in " ________." Can't or won't answer? apnews.com/article/iran-north-america-donald-trump-iran-nuclear-ap-fact-check-7x27282bdead6489a8521059936375210My ex-girlfriend left DOJ to work at State Department as an attorney representing the US in the Iranian Claims Tribunal. The Iran-United States Claims Tribunal has trudged along for almost four decades now, and the money has flowed both ways. By 1983, Iran had returned $896 million to U.S. banks, which in turn had returned hundreds of millions in frozen funds to Iran. Today, private claims from the U.S. side have been resolved to the tune of $2.1 billion. A flurry of claims settlements in 1989 came as President George H.W. Bush attempted to persuade Tehran to help release more American hostages, a group that was being held in Lebanon. “I’d like to get this underbrush cleaned out now,” Bush said, after the U.S. announced it was releasing $567 million in frozen assets to Tehran. “I hope,” Bush added, “they will do what they can to influence those who hold these hostages.” time.com/4441046/400-million-iran-hostage-history/
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Probably too nuanced for those who receive their talking points from Fox "News," Newsmax and/or OAN and whose experience in the world at large may perhaps only be described as parochial. Did you even realize that such a tribunal existed? How's that Delaware County vote results working out? Or was it fraudulent? "I am a registered Republican because I believe in " ________." Can't or won't answer? apnews.com/article/iran-north-america-donald-trump-iran-nuclear-ap-fact-check-7x27282bdead6489a8521059936375210My ex-girlfriend left DOJ to work at State Department as an attorney representing the US in the Iranian Claims Tribunal. The Iran-United States Claims Tribunal has trudged along for almost four decades now, and the money has flowed both ways. By 1983, Iran had returned $896 million to U.S. banks, which in turn had returned hundreds of millions in frozen funds to Iran. Today, private claims from the U.S. side have been resolved to the tune of $2.1 billion. A flurry of claims settlements in 1989 came as President George H.W. Bush attempted to persuade Tehran to help release more American hostages, a group that was being held in Lebanon. “I’d like to get this underbrush cleaned out now,” Bush said, after the U.S. announced it was releasing $567 million in frozen assets to Tehran. “I hope,” Bush added, “they will do what they can to influence those who hold these hostages.” time.com/4441046/400-million-iran-hostage-history/Wrong when Bush did it; wrong when Obama did it. Delco elections ran smooth as glass from my limited parochial perspective. Could do with a bit less in school taxes, but who couldn’t?
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Fair but Republicans are for tax cuts for wealthy, white people. They don't care how it impacts the deficit as long as the people they want to get the breaks get them. They've also proven that they don't care about education. So, in fairness to Elvado, an educational tax cut is right in the wheelhouse for the former GOP.
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Fair but Republicans are for tax cuts for wealthy, white people. They don't care how it impacts the deficit as long as the people they want to get the breaks get them. They've also proven that they don't care about education. So, in fairness to Elvado, an educational tax cut is right in the wheelhouse for the former GOP. Defund Education! Sounds about right for the anti-science and delusional party.
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Post by Elvado on Jun 9, 2021 10:15:21 GMT -5
Fair but Republicans are for tax cuts for wealthy, white people. They don't care how it impacts the deficit as long as the people they want to get the breaks get them. They've also proven that they don't care about education. So, in fairness to Elvado, an educational tax cut is right in the wheelhouse for the former GOP. And the continuing explosion of school costs is in keeping with the Democrat Party’s love of all things institutional and laden with redundant union positions. I pay my school taxes; I just don’t like them. And I get no value from them…
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Post by tashoya on Jun 9, 2021 11:39:38 GMT -5
Fair but Republicans are for tax cuts for wealthy, white people. They don't care how it impacts the deficit as long as the people they want to get the breaks get them. They've also proven that they don't care about education. So, in fairness to Elvado, an educational tax cut is right in the wheelhouse for the former GOP. And the continuing explosion of school costs is in keeping with the Democrat Party’s love of all things institutional and laden with redundant union positions. I pay my school taxes; I just don’t like them. And I get no value from them… I agree that school costs are far too high. In my area, the public school spends about $47k per student. And the head librarian makes about $150k/yr. So, we're in agreement on that part. I do not agree that you get no value from the school taxes. We all benefit by having a better educated population.
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And the continuing explosion of school costs is in keeping with the Democrat Party’s love of all things institutional and laden with redundant union positions. I pay my school taxes; I just don’t like them. And I get no value from them… I agree that school costs are far too high. In my area, the public school spends about $47k per student. And the head librarian makes about $150k/yr. So, we're in agreement on that part. I do not agree that you get no value from the school taxes. We all benefit by having a better educated population. Would that the lion’s share of the money went to better educate the populace…
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Post by tashoya on Jun 9, 2021 11:49:34 GMT -5
I agree that school costs are far too high. In my area, the public school spends about $47k per student. And the head librarian makes about $150k/yr. So, we're in agreement on that part. I do not agree that you get no value from the school taxes. We all benefit by having a better educated population. Would that the lion’s share of the money went to better educate the populace… There's the rub.
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From 2013 from one of the GOP's then-rising stars, soon to disappear into political oblivion. The Republicans who made those comments did seem to be going out of their way to back up John Stuart Mill's 1866 comment: "I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it." www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-21203235From three years ago after the 2018 midterms. And the gap is widening. The Republican Party's love of ignorance as exemplified by its continued worship of the malign sociopath. According to exit polls, 61 percent of non-college-educated white voters cast their ballots for Republicans while just 45 percent of college-educated white voters did so. Meanwhile 53 percent of college-educated white voters cast their votes for Democrats compared with 37 percent of those without a degree. www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/11/education-gap-explains-american-politics/575113/From 2020, the Republicans become whiter and less educated. Shocking, I know. Democrats increasingly dominate in party identification among white college graduates – and maintain wide and long-standing advantages among black, Hispanic and Asian American voters. Republicans increasingly dominate in party affiliation among white non-college voters, who continue to make up a majority (57%) of all GOP voters. www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/06/02/in-changing-u-s-electorate-race-and-education-remain-stark-dividing-lines/
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And the continuing explosion of school costs is in keeping with the Democrat Party’s love of all things institutional and laden with redundant union positions. I pay my school taxes; I just don’t like them. And I get no value from them… I agree that school costs are far too high. In my area, the public school spends about $47k per student. And the head librarian makes about $150k/yr. So, we're in agreement on that part. I do not agree that you get no value from the school taxes. We all benefit by having a better educated population. Not only that, quality public education makes district home values rise. In my area, the towns with better public school systems have seen tons of new families buying in at almost irresponsible prices. Every conversation with people with kids revolves around moving here for the public schools, saying they were willing to pay more for access. Of course Republicans, as always, are keenly short-sighted. It’s one of their defining characteristics, along with disdain for democracy, a complete lack of integrity, and an incoherent set of “beliefs”.
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I agree that school costs are far too high. In my area, the public school spends about $47k per student. And the head librarian makes about $150k/yr. So, we're in agreement on that part. I do not agree that you get no value from the school taxes. We all benefit by having a better educated population. Not only that, quality public education makes district home values rise. In my area, the towns with better public school systems have seen tons of new families buying in at almost irresponsible prices. Every conversation with people with kids revolves around moving here for the public schools, saying they were willing to pay more for access. Of course Republicans, as always, are keenly short-sighted. It’s one of their defining characteristics, along with disdain for democracy, a complete lack of integrity, and an incoherent set of “beliefs”. Quality public education is wonderful ideal. However, you are fooling yourself if you think public education provides any meaningful bang for the tax buck. There are no more bloated payrolls with less real accountability than in major American city public school systems. More dollars do not equal better schools. Bust up a Union or three and you might see improvement. This is all Moot Court for me because I both support the public schools through my taxes and pay for Parochial education as a QC measure.
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Not only that, quality public education makes district home values rise. In my area, the towns with better public school systems have seen tons of new families buying in at almost irresponsible prices. Every conversation with people with kids revolves around moving here for the public schools, saying they were willing to pay more for access. Of course Republicans, as always, are keenly short-sighted. It’s one of their defining characteristics, along with disdain for democracy, a complete lack of integrity, and an incoherent set of “beliefs”. Quality public education is wonderful ideal. However, you are fooling yourself if you think public education provides any meaningful bang for the tax buck. There are no more bloated payrolls with less real accountability than in major American city public school systems. More dollars do not equal better schools. Bust up a Union or three and you might see improvement. This is all Moot Court for me because I both support the public schools through my taxes and pay for Parochial education as a QC measure. I didn’t say more dollars equals better schools. Our town’s school’s cost per student is less than some surrounding areas that have considerably worse reputations/scores/matriculation rates. I will happily pay my taxes and have my kids go through the same public school system that I did. I still ended up with a Georgetown degree, a Master’s Degree, and a JD, not unlike many people on here whose parents paid handsomely for a “quality” private high school education.
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Post by Elvado on Jun 9, 2021 12:58:58 GMT -5
Quality public education is wonderful ideal. However, you are fooling yourself if you think public education provides any meaningful bang for the tax buck. There are no more bloated payrolls with less real accountability than in major American city public school systems. More dollars do not equal better schools. Bust up a Union or three and you might see improvement. This is all Moot Court for me because I both support the public schools through my taxes and pay for Parochial education as a QC measure. I didn’t say more dollars equals better schools. Our town’s school’s cost per student is less than some surrounding areas that have considerably worse reputations/scores/matriculation rates. I will happily pay my taxes and have my kids go through the same public school system that I did. I still ended up with a Georgetown degree, a Master’s Degree, and a JD, not unlike many people on here whose parents paid handsomely for a “quality” private high school education. All good. I am not leading a school tax revolt. I make my choice as to my kids’ education and back that choice up with my own money. I am not suggesting anyone else follow my lead or change anything they are doing. However, the bloat in public education is disgraceful and there is no meaningful accountability in sight.
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I didn’t say more dollars equals better schools. Our town’s school’s cost per student is less than some surrounding areas that have considerably worse reputations/scores/matriculation rates. I will happily pay my taxes and have my kids go through the same public school system that I did. I still ended up with a Georgetown degree, a Master’s Degree, and a JD, not unlike many people on here whose parents paid handsomely for a “quality” private high school education. All good. I am not leading a school tax revolt. I make my choice as to my kids’ education and back that choice up with my own money. I am not suggesting anyone else follow my lead or change anything they are doing. However, the bloat in public education is disgraceful and there is no meaningful accountability in sight. By and large, I can’t disagree with your last point in many instances.
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In the hate-filled reality of the sociopath and his enfeebled vacuous Republican Party, America's increasing positive image in the wotld is a negative. In the 12 countries surveyed both this year and last, a median of 75 percent of respondents expressed confidence in Biden to “do the right thing regarding world affairs,” Pew found, compared with 17 percent for Trump last year. Sixty-two percent of respondents now have a favorable view of the United States vs. 34 percent at the end of Trump’s presidency. www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/06/10/pew-global-approval-biden-us/
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In the hate-filled reality of the sociopath and his enfeebled vacuous Republican Party, America's increasing positive image in the wotld is a negative. In the 12 countries surveyed both this year and last, a median of 75 percent of respondents expressed confidence in Biden to “do the right thing regarding world affairs,” Pew found, compared with 17 percent for Trump last year. Sixty-two percent of respondents now have a favorable view of the United States vs. 34 percent at the end of Trump’s presidency. www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/06/10/pew-global-approval-biden-us/I am happy to see the world opinion of the US improving. I will also be happy to see deliverables come out of the G7 that advance American interests. It does not have to be one or the other.
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