hoyas315
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Post by hoyas315 on Oct 17, 2021 14:37:25 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2021 14:54:27 GMT -5
This is my guy right here!
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hoyaguy
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Post by hoyaguy on Oct 17, 2021 15:05:05 GMT -5
Needless to say I'll go nuts in the stands when he hits his first 3 as a Hoya
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playtyler
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Post by playtyler on Oct 18, 2021 14:59:34 GMT -5
Ryan is easily my favorite current Hoya and he has yet to play a game. Did anyone notice he is listed at 7'2" on the official roster? Is that right? He is taller than Malcom and Tim? DId he grow 4 inches this summer?
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Post by bigelephant on Oct 18, 2021 15:10:13 GMT -5
apparently so.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2021 15:24:55 GMT -5
No. He isn't 7'2, 250.
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Post by wponds on Oct 18, 2021 15:28:48 GMT -5
This is from a year and a half ago. At that age, very possible he grew one-two inches and then got some more from shoes, hair, and/or the typical boost roster listings usually give.
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seaweed
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Post by seaweed on Oct 18, 2021 16:06:36 GMT -5
When did you measure him?
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Oct 18, 2021 16:17:23 GMT -5
Definitely doesn’t appear anywhere near 7’2” when standing next to teammates.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Oct 18, 2021 20:53:10 GMT -5
Definitely doesn’t appear anywhere near 7’2” when standing next to teammates. You must have an odd definition of, "anywhere near."
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paranoia2
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Post by paranoia2 on Oct 19, 2021 10:06:02 GMT -5
Dikembe was 7’2” .
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 2, 2021 22:20:23 GMT -5
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calhoya
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Post by calhoya on Nov 3, 2021 7:10:28 GMT -5
I believe that the key to this season (and possibly Ewing's future as a coach) is the development of this young man. With the loss of Tre King (how often do we talk about the loss of a Hoya player?) the ability to compete with other BE schools comes down to having a credible presence in the post. Hopefully this kid can provide some offense away from the basket and still be reasonably effective on defense and in rebounding.
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Post by daveg023 on Nov 3, 2021 7:54:59 GMT -5
I believe that the key to this season (and possibly Ewing's future as a coach) is the development of this young man. With the loss of Tre King (how often do we talk about the loss of a Hoya player?) the ability to compete with other BE schools comes down to having a credible presence in the post. Hopefully this kid can provide some offense away from the basket and still be reasonably effective on defense and in rebounding. I hope Ryan develops too and he seems to be saying and doing all the right things thus far. That being said I beg to disagree that we need a post presence to compete in the BE. We’ve had some of the best post man in the league in Govan, Yurt, and Wahab, and little success to show for it. On the flipside teams like Villanova, UConn, Creighton, Seton Hall have had a great deal of success without much of a front court, and definitely not a main part of their offense. If anything they’ve had a smaller versatile big or simply a rim protector / tip in guy. To me the development of Harris, Aminu, Riley, and Beard is much more important to our success in the near future. Feels like guard play wins in this conference (and frankly in all of college today). I think in the bigger picture hitting / missing on the guards would be much more impactful than anything Ryan does or doesn’t do.
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Post by jwp91 on Nov 3, 2021 8:25:04 GMT -5
I believe that the key to this season (and possibly Ewing's future as a coach) is the development of this young man. With the loss of Tre King (how often do we talk about the loss of a Hoya player?) the ability to compete with other BE schools comes down to having a credible presence in the post. Hopefully this kid can provide some offense away from the basket and still be reasonably effective on defense and in rebounding. I get the fans see Ryan as the great savior. I think that is putting too much on him. On a positive note....I saw one report behind a paywall about Tim against Temple that I can only hope was true. I think the key is for the team to buy in and play team basketball. That is why the defense came together in the 2nd half of the season last year. And that sounds like what the problem was against Virginia with the perimeter defense. There is no savior on this team, but there are a bunch of interesting and talented players including Ryan & Tim. If they can learn to play together quickly, then we have something.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Nov 3, 2021 8:32:01 GMT -5
That being said I beg to disagree that we need a post presence to compete in the BE. We’ve had some of the best post man in the league in Govan, Yurt, and Wahab, and little success to show for it. On the flipside teams like Villanova, UConn, Creighton, Seton Hall have had a great deal of success without much of a front court, and definitely not a main part of their offense. If anything they’ve had a smaller versatile big or simply a rim protector / tip in guy. To me the development of Harris, Aminu, Riley, and Beard is much more important to our success in the near future. Feels like guard play wins in this conference (and frankly in all of college today). I think in the bigger picture hitting / missing on the guards would be much more impactful than anything Ryan does or doesn’t do. Because of Georgetown's history, there is always a lot of emphasis placed on big guys and post play. But, it certainly is not necessary for success, as you pointed out. In fact, in the modern game, very few college or NBA teams have a good post player. This is in part because analytics demonstrate that post-play is inefficient compared to other types of shots, and so unless you have an absolute monster in the post (like Hibbert circa 2007-2008), it is not necessarily the smartest way to play. In our case, we do not have any particularly talented post players, and so trying to force the issue will just lead to a more inefficient offense than we could otherwise have. While we have had some good big guys in the post (like Wahab, Yurtseven, or Govan, though the later two had a wider game too), Georgetown teams have had success without that dominant presence. While the teams did not have NCAA success, the teams with Wright/Freeman/Clark did well without a dominant big after Monroe left. And, as you said, nearly every college team that succeeds nowadays lacks a big post presence. Of course, I hope Ryan becomes a dominant post player, and with his height could be really disruptive on defense, I am just not sure he gets there freshman year.
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Post by bostonfan on Nov 3, 2021 8:49:39 GMT -5
I believe that the key to this season (and possibly Ewing's future as a coach) is the development of this young man. With the loss of Tre King (how often do we talk about the loss of a Hoya player?) the ability to compete with other BE schools comes down to having a credible presence in the post. Hopefully this kid can provide some offense away from the basket and still be reasonably effective on defense and in rebounding. I hope Ryan develops too and he seems to be saying and doing all the right things thus far. That being said I beg to disagree that we need a post presence to compete in the BE. We’ve had some of the best post man in the league in Govan, Yurt, and Wahab, and little success to show for it. On the flipside teams like Villanova, UConn, Creighton, Seton Hall have had a great deal of success without much of a front court, and definitely not a main part of their offense. If anything they’ve had a smaller versatile big or simply a rim protector / tip in guy. To me the development of Harris, Aminu, Riley, and Beard is much more important to our success in the near future. Feels like guard play wins in this conference (and frankly in all of college today). I think in the bigger picture hitting / missing on the guards would be much more impactful than anything Ryan does or doesn’t do. I think Ryan will have a good freshman year, with some games where he is very involved and engaged and productive, and some games where he is less effective (like all freshman coming into college). If he can add some fairly consistent rim protection and rebounding during his freshman year, in what I expect will be back up minutes that would be a successful year. He may have a few games when his offense helps the team, but I think that is secondary at this point and if he can rebound and defend at a good level it will go a long way to the success of the team.
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Post by prhoya on Nov 3, 2021 9:40:13 GMT -5
Of course, I hope Ryan becomes a dominant post player, and with his height could be really disruptive on defense, I am just not sure he gets there freshman year. I haven’t checked, but who are the best/toughest/oldest/FT% centers in the BE? A breakdown to see how our centers match up would be appreciated… We have plenty of fouls to give.
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calhoya
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Post by calhoya on Nov 3, 2021 9:52:40 GMT -5
I believe that the key to this season (and possibly Ewing's future as a coach) is the development of this young man. With the loss of Tre King (how often do we talk about the loss of a Hoya player?) the ability to compete with other BE schools comes down to having a credible presence in the post. Hopefully this kid can provide some offense away from the basket and still be reasonably effective on defense and in rebounding. I hope Ryan develops too and he seems to be saying and doing all the right things thus far. That being said I beg to disagree that we need a post presence to compete in the BE. We’ve had some of the best post man in the league in Govan, Yurt, and Wahab, and little success to show for it. On the flipside teams like Villanova, UConn, Creighton, Seton Hall have had a great deal of success without much of a front court, and definitely not a main part of their offense. If anything they’ve had a smaller versatile big or simply a rim protector / tip in guy. To me the development of Harris, Aminu, Riley, and Beard is much more important to our success in the near future. Feels like guard play wins in this conference (and frankly in all of college today). I think in the bigger picture hitting / missing on the guards would be much more impactful than anything Ryan does or doesn’t do. Understand your point and agree that the path to success in the BE has not required strong offensive threat in the post. I do not expect Ryan to be a strong offensive threat, but given the way Ewing has played, the success of our perimeter game will benefit when having a credible threat in the post. Perhaps I should also have stated my premise that the perimeter players on the team are probably farther along in development, and my expectations for them are higher than for either Tim or Ryan in the post.
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Post by professorhoya on Nov 3, 2021 9:55:39 GMT -5
I hope Ryan develops too and he seems to be saying and doing all the right things thus far. That being said I beg to disagree that we need a post presence to compete in the BE. We’ve had some of the best post man in the league in Govan, Yurt, and Wahab, and little success to show for it. On the flipside teams like Villanova, UConn, Creighton, Seton Hall have had a great deal of success without much of a front court, and definitely not a main part of their offense. If anything they’ve had a smaller versatile big or simply a rim protector / tip in guy. To me the development of Harris, Aminu, Riley, and Beard is much more important to our success in the near future. Feels like guard play wins in this conference (and frankly in all of college today). I think in the bigger picture hitting / missing on the guards would be much more impactful than anything Ryan does or doesn’t do. Understand your point and agree that the path to success in the BE has not required strong offensive threat in the post. I do not expect Ryan to be a strong offensive threat, but given the way Ewing has played, the success of our perimeter game will benefit when having a credible threat in the post. Perhaps I should also have stated my premise that the perimeter players on the team are probably farther along in development, and my expectations for them are higher than for either Tim or Ryan in the post. I think Coach is laying the seeds for Mutombo to be this year's Bile with the uncertainty/departure of Tre King. It will take time but I expect the OCC to be an accelerated developmental/meshing period for him much like the OCC was for Bile.
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