jwp91
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Post by jwp91 on Jun 1, 2020 9:11:53 GMT -5
Fellow Posters:
I am an white male living in a largely white bubble. I know people of color from various backgrounds. Many I consider friends.
I am not free from discriminatory thoughts. I am not sure that any of us are. When I notice these thoughts, I confront them and fight to get past them.
From what individual posters have share shared about their backgrounds, I believe that I likely interact with people of color at least as much on Hoyatalk as I do in other aspects of my life and probably more so. I wanted to share the following with you.
I am listening to what people of color report as their treatment by society today.
I am outraged by the treatment of people of color by the police.
I appreciate and applaud what Colin Kaepernick did and see what he gave up with his protest.
I am disgusted that too many 'good' cops protect the bad cops who should be fired and in some cases prosecuted.
I am saddened that overt racism is again palatable in our country.
I am committed to voting to change what I can.
I will not tolerate racism from my family, my friends, my customers, or my work associates.
I will seek to notice when I can make a difference to help someone without the privileges that I have had.
I am frustrated that I don't know how I to further help to cause change.
I hope that Hoyatalk can be a place where all who support the Hoyas can continue to enjoy comradeship.
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justsaying
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Post by justsaying on Jun 1, 2020 9:51:53 GMT -5
Fellow Posters: I am an white male living in a largely white bubble. I know people of color from various backgrounds. Many I consider friends. I am not free from discriminatory thoughts. I am not sure that any of us are. When I notice these thoughts, I confront them and fight to getting past them. From what individual posters have share shared about their backgrounds, I believe that I likely interact with people of color at least as much on Hoyatalk as I do in other aspects of my life and probably more so. I wanted to share the following with you. I am listening to what people of color report as their treatment by society today. I am outraged by the treatment of people of color by the police. I appreciate and applaud what Colin Kaepernick did and see what he gave up with his protest. I am disgusted that too many 'good' cops protect the bad cops who should be fired and in some cases prosecuted. I am saddened that overt racism is again palatable in our country. I am committed to voting to change what I can. I will not tolerate racism from my family, my friends, my customers, or my work associates. I will seek to notice when I can make a difference to help someone without the privileges that I have had. I am frustrated that I don't know how I to further help to cause change. I hope that Hoyatalk can be a place where all who support the Hoyas can continue to enjoy comradeship. Got Cha!!!! |
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justsaying
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Post by justsaying on Jun 1, 2020 14:13:40 GMT -5
LaVelle Moton Head Coach NCCU
"When it's time for humanity to speak up on behalf of the student athlete, it's silent, it's crickets," Moton said. "And my problem is if the murdering of black Americans is too risky of an issue for you to stand up as a leader, then who are they really playing for?"
Are we to be surprised by the number of non-replies, non-responses on such treatments (which can be taken as compliance and agreement with the status quo) from this very opinionated board often stating what coach should be doing, what the staff should be doing, what individual players should be doing or not doing. But not what we should be doing.
No, not really surprised at all.
Brian Flores, Head NFL Coach
“I’ve had the privilege of being a part of many different circles that have included some very powerful and influential people of all different races and genders. The events of the last few weeks have brought some of the memories of those conversations back to light. I vividly remember the Colin Kaepernick conversations. ‘Don’t ever disrespect the flag’ was the phrase that I heard over and over again. This idea that players were kneeling in support of social justice was something some people couldn’t wrap their head around. The outrage that I saw in the media and the anger I felt in some of my own private conversations caused me to sever a few long-standing friendships.
“Most recently, I’ve had conversations about incentivizing teams for hiring minorities. Again, there was some outrage in the media and talks that this would cause division amongst coaches, executives and ownership. I bring these situations up because I haven’t seen the same OUTRAGE from people of influence when the conversation turns to Ahmaud Arbery, Breonna Taylor and most recently George Floyd. Many people who broadcast their opinions on kneeling or on the hiring of minorities don’t seem to have an opinion on the recent murders of these young black men and women. I think many of them QUIETLY say that watching George Floyd plead for help is one of the more horrible things they have seen, but it’s said amongst themselves where no one can hear. Broadcasting THAT opinion clearly is not important enough.
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“I lead a group of young men who have the potential to make a real impact in this world. My message to them and anyone else who wants to listen is that honesty, transparency, and empathy go a long way in bringing people together and making change. I hope that the tragedies of the last few weeks will open our hearts and minds to a better way of communicating and hopefully create that change.”
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Jun 1, 2020 14:57:55 GMT -5
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Post by jctnhoya4ever on Jun 1, 2020 15:30:36 GMT -5
I agree Coach Ewing 100% we need to support each other no matter what race we are.
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rockhoya
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Post by rockhoya on Jun 1, 2020 15:54:49 GMT -5
I agree Coach Ewing 100% we need to support each other no matter what race we are. No sh*t Sherlock.....it’s elementary. That’s like saying 2+2=4. I get that you’re trying to be “supportive”, but I’m so, so tired of legitimizing the idea that it’s even up for debate. I’m not saying every race has to love every other race, but (willfully) spreading hate and ignorance is a whole different discussion. |
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mdtd
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Post by mdtd on Jun 1, 2020 17:24:40 GMT -5
LeVelle Moton Head Coach NCCU
"When it's time for humanity to speak up on behalf of the student athlete, it's silent, it's crickets," Moton said. "And my problem is if the murdering of black Americans is too risky of an issue for you to stand up as a leader, then who are they really playing for?" Here's the start of a thread from Coach Moton which I would recommend everyone read if they have not seen it. |
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hoyaroc
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Post by hoyaroc on Jun 1, 2020 17:48:26 GMT -5
That’s our Georgetown coach we fight for racial equality and social justice. |
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Jun 1, 2020 19:46:11 GMT -5
If I've realized anything over these past few months it's how little I know or understand or can know or understand many, many things. I'm going to do my best to listen more and talk less moving forward. I've never been a big talker IRL. But, I've come to know that I need to be a far better listener. Safety and love to all of my fellow Hoyas and to all of those for whom you care. I keep coming back here, and will continue to, for the commonalities that we share. It makes it much easier to respect and appreciate our differences. Moving forward, I'm going to try to carry that idea with me in the rest of my life more than I have previously. Love to all.
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Post by professorhoya on Jun 1, 2020 20:15:50 GMT -5
Fellow Posters: I am an white male living in a largely white bubble. I know people of color from various backgrounds. Many I consider friends. I am not free from discriminatory thoughts. I am not sure that any of us are. When I notice these thoughts, I confront them and fight to get past them. From what individual posters have share shared about their backgrounds, I believe that I likely interact with people of color at least as much on Hoyatalk as I do in other aspects of my life and probably more so. I wanted to share the following with you. I am listening to what people of color report as their treatment by society today. I am outraged by the treatment of people of color by the police. I appreciate and applaud what Colin Kaepernick did and see what he gave up with his protest. I am disgusted that too many 'good' cops protect the bad cops who should be fired and in some cases prosecuted. I am saddened that overt racism is again palatable in our country. I am committed to voting to change what I can. I will not tolerate racism from my family, my friends, my customers, or my work associates. I will seek to notice when I can make a difference to help someone without the privileges that I have had. I am frustrated that I don't know how I to further help to cause change. I hope that Hoyatalk can be a place where all who support the Hoyas can continue to enjoy comradeship. Then you should supporting Ewing. There is a complete lack of African American coaches in the power five and big six. African American coaches usually get one shot and that’s it. A white coach can mess up over and over again and still get hired. |
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Jun 2, 2020 0:32:30 GMT -5
And white coaches get to cheat over and over again...and black coaches it’s one strike and your out. See UConn in a nutshell.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Jun 2, 2020 0:42:19 GMT -5
Then you should supporting Ewing. There is a complete lack of African American coaches in the power five and big six. African American coaches usually get one shot and that’s it. A white coach can mess up over and over again and still get hired. We all support Ewing... or at least most of us. For a good chunk of us, he's our favorite all-time Hoya basketball player too. That said, the number of African American coaches in the power five and big six has nothing to do with the merits of being Georgetown's coach. If you're going to go down that road, why are there no Hispanic coaches in those conferences? |
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SaxaCD
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Post by SaxaCD on Jun 2, 2020 1:17:47 GMT -5
Then you should supporting Ewing. There is a complete lack of African American coaches in the power five and big six. African American coaches usually get one shot and that’s it. A white coach can mess up over and over again and still get hired. We all support Ewing... or at least most of us. For a good chunk of us, he's our favorite all-time Hoya basketball player too. That said, the number of African American coaches in the power five and big six has nothing to do with the merits of being Georgetown's coach. If you're going to go down that road, why are there no Hispanic coaches in those conferences? Agreed -- I love Ewing and support him 100%. But that argument posited above frankly seems to me to be a kind of insult to the man as a coach. Plus, "complete lack"? Am I missing a rash of firings lately? |
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iowa80
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Post by iowa80 on Jun 2, 2020 7:28:49 GMT -5
With all respect to the O/P, any chance of getting this over to the Blue and Gray Board, where it now belongs. Or maybe college sports?
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jwp91
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Post by jwp91 on Jun 2, 2020 15:01:08 GMT -5
With all respect to the O/P, any chance of getting this over to the Blue and Gray Board, where it now belongs. Or maybe college sports? In a world with no sports and no certainty of college basketball next season, that you think there is anything else to talk about right now may suggest you might be part of the problem. |
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Post by professorhoya on Jun 2, 2020 20:03:28 GMT -5
And white coaches get to cheat over and over again...and black coaches it’s one strike and your out. See UConn in a nutshell. Exactly, a black head coach or assistant cannot cheat in this corrupt NCAA system or they are fired or sent to jail. White coaches get chance after chance and can cheat all they want with no consequence (Will Wade, Shawn Miller, Roy Williams, etc, etc). Even Pitino it took them 40 years to get him. Compare that to what happened to Kevin Ollie. So this puts the black coach at a competitive disadvantage because they aren't allowed to bend the rules or cheat like the White NCAA coach. |
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Post by professorhoya on Jun 2, 2020 20:07:24 GMT -5
Then you should supporting Ewing. There is a complete lack of African American coaches in the power five and big six. African American coaches usually get one shot and that’s it. A white coach can mess up over and over again and still get hired. We all support Ewing... or at least most of us. For a good chunk of us, he's our favorite all-time Hoya basketball player too. That said, the number of African American coaches in the power five and big six has nothing to do with the merits of being Georgetown's coach. If you're going to go down that road, why are there no Hispanic coaches in those conferences?Frank Martin. |
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Jun 2, 2020 21:20:57 GMT -5
We all support Ewing... or at least most of us. For a good chunk of us, he's our favorite all-time Hoya basketball player too. That said, the number of African American coaches in the power five and big six has nothing to do with the merits of being Georgetown's coach. If you're going to go down that road, why are there no Hispanic coaches in those conferences?Frank Martin. One in how many? |
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iowa80
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Post by iowa80 on Jun 3, 2020 12:17:55 GMT -5
With all respect to the O/P, any chance of getting this over to the Blue and Gray Board, where it now belongs. Or maybe college sports? In a world with no sports and no certainty of college basketball next season, that you think there is anything else to talk about right now may suggest you might be part of the problem. I have no idea what this means, but it appears that I offended you, which was not my intent. I was actually referring to the direction the thread was taking after you initiated it ("With all respect to the O/P . . .). If you choose to view me as "part of the problem" based on a two sentence post, there's not much that I can, or would want, to do about that. |
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Post by professorhoya on Jun 3, 2020 14:48:54 GMT -5
That’s it one total in power six. Totally unacceptable |
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