IDenj
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Post by IDenj on May 11, 2021 13:56:53 GMT -5
Ryan Mutombo shared the post of PBJ's final three and Aminu liked it. PBJ to Hoyas confirmed. Victor Muresan also liked the post, so yeah it's definitely a done deal. Facts.
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bluegray79
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Post by bluegray79 on May 11, 2021 14:05:08 GMT -5
Bulldog/doublehoya0310 has me worried. Have you, by any chance, watched Ted Lasso? In the face of daunting odds, Coach Lasso is faced with the hardscrabble resignation of fans who dare not risk hoping for better because, as they say, "It's the hope that kills you." Ted answers that he believes in hope, that it's lack of hope that kills you, and finally asks, "Do you believe in miracles?" Sure it's over dramatic but here we are -- on the eve of the announcement. We know we have a great collection of players for next year, so let's hope away! What's the worst that can happen - a little disappointment? At least we put it out there and let ourselves hope beyond reason (aka lived and felt something real). And as fond/obsessed as we all are about the minutia of off-season Hoya basketball, it is a game and there is a great season ahead no matter what happens tomorrow at 10:30 EST. See you on the other side for reaction/commiseration. Hoya Saxa!
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the_way
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Post by the_way on May 11, 2021 14:31:03 GMT -5
lol
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Post by oldbigeast on May 11, 2021 14:32:27 GMT -5
This is like watching a movie that's historical. You know how it will end, but the movie is good and you get caught up in the drama of it. Once it dragged on I knew it was very unlikely. And the ESPN announcement is the smoking gun. I don't think ESPN would let him do it if he were picking the Hoyas. "ESPN would not let him do it" is the wrong way to look at this when we're talking about a top 5 player. One of those three programs is historically incompetent at PR, one of those three programs is really good at PR, and then I'm not sure why anyone would go on SportsCenter to announce they are playing for their Dad, but I guess it could happen. TC IJS that if ESPN got the date and wanted to run it. I think they check with Coach K first. If K indicates he isn't totally confident, i think that ESPN just wouldn't do it. Why would they create an event for the premier program to take an L? I'm also quite sure the head coaches know before we know so K may already knows for sure. If K wasn't feeling great about it, ESPN would not do it.
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Post by trotters10 on May 11, 2021 14:50:02 GMT -5
Are we forgetting that Patrick Ewing is our coach? The guy is a legend, both in the NBA and collegiately. In basketball as a whole (not just in college), Patrick Ewing -- in my opinion -- is a bigger name than Coach K. I think Patrick Ewing securing PBJ is worthy of ESPN airing this. Ewing was plastered over the ESPN NCAA page when Georgetown won the Big East tournament. John Thompson has been featured in so many ESPN articles since his passing. I don't like to bring race into things either, but who better than Georgetown to be the face of the movement? First black coach to win a National Championship, Patrick Ewing was the face of that team and endured A LOT of racism in his college career. Georgetown returning to glory is definitely an ESPN worthy story.
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Post by oldbigeast on May 11, 2021 15:00:20 GMT -5
Are we forgetting that Patrick Ewing is our coach? The guy is a legend, both in the NBA and collegiately. In basketball as a whole (not just in college), Patrick Ewing -- in my opinion -- is a bigger name than Coach K. I think Patrick Ewing securing PBJ is worthy of ESPN airing this. Ewing was plastered over the ESPN NCAA page when Georgetown won the Big East tournament. John Thompson has been featured in so many ESPN articles since his passing. I don't like to bring race into things either, but who better than Georgetown to be the face of the movement? First black coach to win a National Championship, Patrick Ewing was the face of that team and endured A LOT of racism in his college career. Georgetown returning to glory is definitely an ESPN worthy story. Duke and UNC were not playing at the time. They were doing their job and trying to get eyeballs. Duke quit last season and UNC stunk.
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Post by trotters10 on May 11, 2021 15:09:17 GMT -5
Are we forgetting that Patrick Ewing is our coach? The guy is a legend, both in the NBA and collegiately. In basketball as a whole (not just in college), Patrick Ewing -- in my opinion -- is a bigger name than Coach K. I think Patrick Ewing securing PBJ is worthy of ESPN airing this. Ewing was plastered over the ESPN NCAA page when Georgetown won the Big East tournament. John Thompson has been featured in so many ESPN articles since his passing. I don't like to bring race into things either, but who better than Georgetown to be the face of the movement? First black coach to win a National Championship, Patrick Ewing was the face of that team and endured A LOT of racism in his college career. Georgetown returning to glory is definitely an ESPN worthy story. Duke and UNC were not playing at the time. They were doing their job and trying to get eyeballs. Duke quit last season and UNC stunk. True, but I'm just trying to be optimistic. A commitment to Duke makes the top headlines, something like 5-star Patrick Baldwin Jr. commits to Duke, but there's no real story there, Duke is expected to get these guys and no one's gonna write a huge story about it. Committing to Georgetown though, ESPN could write an article about the re-birth of Georgetown basketball. Aminu was awesome, but a PBJ commitment on top of it could be a huge ESPN story. That's my logic behind ESPN being involved here, Patrick Ewing can get just as many clicks as Coach K.
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on May 11, 2021 16:23:43 GMT -5
blueandgray's post left me with little expectation and the SportsCenter announcement venue has removed every last ounce of hope. I like everyone else can still hope. I have no idea what has transpired in the last week since I last posted.
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Post by oldbigeast on May 11, 2021 16:25:12 GMT -5
Duke and UNC were not playing at the time. They were doing their job and trying to get eyeballs. Duke quit last season and UNC stunk. True, but I'm just trying to be optimistic. A commitment to Duke makes the top headlines, something like 5-star Patrick Baldwin Jr. commits to Duke, but there's no real story there, Duke is expected to get these guys and no one's gonna write a huge story about it. Committing to Georgetown though, ESPN could write an article about the re-birth of Georgetown basketball. Aminu was awesome, but a PBJ commitment on top of it could be a huge ESPN story. That's my logic behind ESPN being involved here, Patrick Ewing can get just as many clicks as Coach K. Good points. Maybe I'm overly cynical given the previous 10 years before this year's haul. Keep hope alive!
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Post by trillesthoya on May 11, 2021 16:25:53 GMT -5
blueandgray's post left me with little expectation and the SportsCenter announcement venue has removed every last ounce of hope. I like everyone else can still hope. I have no idea what has transpired in the last week since I last posted. Looking like UWM. But one things for sure, this family has kept things insanely tight lipped. Maybe we all get surprised.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on May 11, 2021 16:40:47 GMT -5
UWM over The Forces of Evil at least would be a win for The Basketball Universe...
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Post by daymondmyles on May 11, 2021 16:52:44 GMT -5
blueandgray's post left me with little expectation and the SportsCenter announcement venue has removed every last ounce of hope. I like everyone else can still hope. I have no idea what has transpired in the last week since I last posted. Well follow up! Kidding. Sort of? Id be curious how definite the “no” you got was and why he wasn’t supposed to be coming, but understand you may need to keep those things to yourself. Either way, thanks for sharing what you do.
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daveg023
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Post by daveg023 on May 11, 2021 17:13:26 GMT -5
Unless you are Kentucky or Duke your chances are pretty slim at landing a 5*, even for the Novas, UConns, Syracuse’s of the world let alone our program with 1 NCAA win this decade.
We got Aminu, but I never really expected to be in the running here. Being Final 3 is still saying something and obviously our pitch is resonating with top kids. If we continue to make inroads and can land one every few years, I am on board with continuing to chase these guys, though the upcoming changes to the one-and-done rule may make this a moot point.
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hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on May 11, 2021 17:17:16 GMT -5
It's been documented how Duke's class has been recruiting PBJ hard. I wonder how hard our class has been recruiting for his services. I just hope he doesn't get caught up in the Duke hype.
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wsdhoya
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Post by wsdhoya on May 11, 2021 17:52:55 GMT -5
"ESPN would not let him do it" is the wrong way to look at this when we're talking about a top 5 player. One of those three programs is historically incompetent at PR, one of those three programs is really good at PR, and then I'm not sure why anyone would go on SportsCenter to announce they are playing for their Dad, but I guess it could happen. TC IJS that if ESPN got the date and wanted to run it. I think they check with Coach K first. If K indicates he isn't totally confident, i think that ESPN just wouldn't do it. Why would they create an event for the premier program to take an L? I'm also quite sure the head coaches know before we know so K may already knows for sure. If K wasn't feeling great about it, ESPN would not do it. ESPN shows corn hole and bowling. I get what you're saying but any top 5 recruit who wants to announce on SC can, and usually several do. I remember in the fall seeing a women's basketball player announce her decision. I would imagine a Georgetown men's commitment would generate a lot more viewership for ESPN than a women's commitment for any school barring possibly Connecticut. Also, even if he's not headed to Duke their fans will tune in with interest.
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Post by thedragon on May 11, 2021 18:07:53 GMT -5
Figured I'd annoy my midwest AAU connects one more time. Both said they think UWM. The Duke insiders are very very bullish on Duke minus 1 or 2 holdouts. But their versions of B&G (highly reputable insiders on the boards for years) are supremely confident that it's Duke. Eric Bossi of 247 says UWM. Who the hell knows - I don't have high hopes - but weirder things have happened.
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Post by ewingitrust on May 11, 2021 18:11:17 GMT -5
I agree there. I don't think u go on sportscenter to announce you're playing for your dad. Even from the beginning Duke and Milwaukee were going to be on his final list. The fact we are mentioned in his final 3...makes me think while he loves his dad, and coach k has been on him for yrs...I think he chooses gtown. I don't see how baldwin would lead gtown all the way down this road if he wasn't coming.
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Omega
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Post by Omega on May 11, 2021 18:21:32 GMT -5
Y'all scared...lol. the coach pat haters got their fingers crossed that he chooses duke...
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hoyas315
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Post by hoyas315 on May 11, 2021 19:14:09 GMT -5
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hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on May 11, 2021 19:21:20 GMT -5
I guess the assumptions that UMW was in the process of buying out PBS were overstated. If we can't get him I hope he chooses family. But I'll check in with my fingers crossed....
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