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Post by Bigs"R"Us on May 13, 2020 13:52:24 GMT -5
He may have a low release point, but he does get his shot off quickly. Never, ever tinker with the stroke of a +40% 3-ball shooter. Plus, he shoots it from real deep.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 14:05:33 GMT -5
Except the critical points made in the Penn thread have also been brought up in this thread, and other threads, without folks being attacked for making them.
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on May 13, 2020 17:24:12 GMT -5
Welcome to the Hilltop TJ.
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Post by FHillsNYHoya on May 13, 2020 20:44:57 GMT -5
Congrats TJ! Looking forward to watching you for the next four years!
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Post by EtomicB on May 13, 2020 22:06:20 GMT -5
Liking this kid more & more, very good interview...
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Post by hoyainla on May 13, 2020 22:08:53 GMT -5
Except the critical points made in the Penn thread have also been brought up in this thread, and other threads, without folks being attacked for making them. I’m sure you are ecstatic about another great signing just like everything the program does. It’s all going to be fine right?. Want me to go in the Bile and Dante thread and give my true thoughts and see how it goes?
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Post by hoyaroc on May 13, 2020 23:53:20 GMT -5
Congrats TJ! Let’s go Hoyas!
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2020 2:10:19 GMT -5
Except the critical points made in the Penn thread have also been brought up in this thread, and other threads, without folks being attacked for making them. I’m sure you are ecstatic about another great signing just like everything the program does. It’s all going to be fine right?. Want me to go in the Bile and Dante thread and give my true thoughts and see how it goes? ? Whatever your feelings are about me it doesn’t change the fact that what I said above is factual. Imo the lesson here is It’s not always what a person says but how they say it that rubs people the wrong way. I think the reason some of your comments aren’t well received is because you’re kind of a jerk about it.
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Post by TC on May 14, 2020 7:27:59 GMT -5
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Post by hoyaboy1 on May 14, 2020 7:47:51 GMT -5
It does sound like he recruited us more than the other way around, but overall I thought it was a very impressive interview and he seems to have a good sense of what he needs to work on.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2020 8:10:16 GMT -5
Is this a recruit that demanded extra special attention? Personally - I don't think TJ gets a sniff from us unless our roster craters out in the last 5 months. It sounds like he & his dad thought maybe they were a little under-recruited and were looking for "bigger" spots and worked to promote themselves. To tie in HoyaTalk... KJ Feagin comes to mind. We weren't biting at the time, but now we're on a nation-wide scavenger hunt (Mid Michigan College?) & throwing out offers to just about anybody who can play in the upcoming semester. I'm not saying TJ can't be a successful player for us - just that our initial evaluations didn't make him someone we'd have offered. So why would we have courted him? As for Kirby... sure, he's far and away our most successful recruiter. But he seems to have fallen into this one.
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Post by TC on May 14, 2020 8:14:07 GMT -5
I'm not saying TJ can't be a successful player for us - just that our initial evaluations didn't make him someone we'd have offered. So why would we have courted him? As for Kirby... sure, he's far and away our most successful recruiter. But he seems to have fallen into this one. At the point where you are extending someone an official offer, maybe you send them a virtual campus tour or something? That's the part I find a little ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2020 8:27:09 GMT -5
I'm not saying TJ can't be a successful player for us - just that our initial evaluations didn't make him someone we'd have offered. So why would we have courted him? As for Kirby... sure, he's far and away our most successful recruiter. But he seems to have fallen into this one. At the point where you are extending someone an official offer, maybe you send them a virtual campus tour or something? That's the part I find a little ridiculous. I dunno. It sounds all good to me. We don't offer. They do "homework". They reach back to us when our team is in shambles. We get all of our coaches together on a Zoom w/ him. We get him. Seems like the kind of kid who'd be pretty familiar w/ GU and DC in general. But if he wanted a tour, I'm sure we would've given it to him. I think it's a positive that a kid like this was recruiting us. I can't say what every recruit is looking for, but whatever we showed TJ (and this little snippet of an interview may not be all of it) seemed to work.
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Post by rockhoya on May 14, 2020 8:34:57 GMT -5
Yeah, the kid wants to come for basketball, but let’s focus on the fact that he probably didn’t care for a campy tour either. Man you have some endless negative spins.
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Post by rockhoya on May 14, 2020 8:38:17 GMT -5
Is this a recruit that demanded extra special attention? Personally - I don't think TJ gets a sniff from us unless our roster craters out in the last 5 months. It sounds like he & his dad thought maybe they were a little under-recruited and were looking for "bigger" spots and worked to promote themselves. To tie in HoyaTalk... KJ Feagin comes to mind. We weren't biting at the time, but now we're on a nation-wide scavenger hunt (Mid Michigan College?) & throwing out offers to just about anybody who can play in the upcoming semester. I'm not saying TJ can't be a successful player for us - just that our initial evaluations didn't make him someone we'd have offered. So why would we have courted him? As for Kirby... sure, he's far and away our most successful recruiter. But he seems to have fallen into this one. Maybe I’m reading to far into it, but implied in that article is that Kirby mentioned TJ and his game to his father as sort of a nod to say he thought he was GU caliber. At the time he was committed to Penn as a double legacy. That is why we didn’t offer him. For as frustrated as some people get around here that the staff invests time in building relationships with 5 stars, I don’t even think the staunchest supporters of the strategy would support investing resources into recruiting players that are already committed, not to mention that would be a violation of rules.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2020 8:42:04 GMT -5
Is this a recruit that demanded extra special attention? Personally - I don't think TJ gets a sniff from us unless our roster craters out in the last 5 months. It sounds like he & his dad thought maybe they were a little under-recruited and were looking for "bigger" spots and worked to promote themselves. To tie in HoyaTalk... KJ Feagin comes to mind. We weren't biting at the time, but now we're on a nation-wide scavenger hunt (Mid Michigan College?) & throwing out offers to just about anybody who can play in the upcoming semester. I'm not saying TJ can't be a successful player for us - just that our initial evaluations didn't make him someone we'd have offered. So why would we have courted him? As for Kirby... sure, he's far and away our most successful recruiter. But he seems to have fallen into this one. Maybe I’m reading to far into it, but implied in that article is that Kirby mentioned TJ and his game as sort of a nod to say he thought he was GU caliber. At the time he was committed to Penn as a double legacy. That is why we didn’t offer him. For as frustrated as some people get around here that the staff invests time in building relationships with 5 stars, I don’t even think the staunchest supporters of the strategy would support investing resources into recruiting players that are already committed, not to mention that would be a violation of rules. Before he committed to Penn, he's not someone we would have offered.
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Post by rockhoya on May 14, 2020 8:53:43 GMT -5
Maybe I’m reading to far into it, but implied in that article is that Kirby mentioned TJ and his game as sort of a nod to say he thought he was GU caliber. At the time he was committed to Penn as a double legacy. That is why we didn’t offer him. For as frustrated as some people get around here that the staff invests time in building relationships with 5 stars, I don’t even think the staunchest supporters of the strategy would support investing resources into recruiting players that are already committed, not to mention that would be a violation of rules. Before he committed to Penn, he's not someone we would have offered. According to whom? Not to mention he was just going into his senior season when he committed, and many players figure out their real interests startIng at that point. Is your implication that his talent wasn’t good enough for us to recruit at that juncture? It probably wasn’t, players improve. As to why we’d consider building a relationship with him, there are a few good reasons beyond just securing his on court production.
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Post by hoyainla on May 14, 2020 10:00:42 GMT -5
I’m sure you are ecstatic about another great signing just like everything the program does. It’s all going to be fine right?. Want me to go in the Bile and Dante thread and give my true thoughts and see how it goes? ? Whatever your feelings are about me it doesn’t change the fact that what I said above is factual. Imo the lesson here is It’s not always what a person says but how they say it that rubs people the wrong way. I think the reason some of your comments aren’t well received is because you’re kind of a jerk about it. Could be or it could be people don’t like hearing the reality and would rather live in fantasy. There are people on here that don’t always agree with my points but we can have conversations. There are others that just write it off and don’t want to hear it and say it’s ridiculous. I’ve tried to give those people their own threads so they can have a safe space.
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Post by TC on May 14, 2020 10:11:52 GMT -5
We don't offer. They do "homework". They reach back to us when our team is in shambles. We get all of our coaches together on a Zoom w/ him. We get him. I get that he's not a priority recruit, and that he sort of fell into our lap, but as a process thing, I don't really know what goes on in our recruiting or why it is going so poorly. This was a softball question about how the staff wooed you on the Zoom call and his answer was that they didn't even send him a virtual campus tour which is weird because it'd literally be sending someone some links. That's not exactly flattering, and it's kind of reminiscent to the end-JT2 era that we're ending up with guys that are recruiting themselves.
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Post by EtomicB on May 14, 2020 10:29:07 GMT -5
Is this a recruit that demanded extra special attention? Personally - I don't think TJ gets a sniff from us unless our roster craters out in the last 5 months. It sounds like he & his dad thought maybe they were a little under-recruited and were looking for "bigger" spots and worked to promote themselves. To tie in HoyaTalk... KJ Feagin comes to mind. We weren't biting at the time, but now we're on a nation-wide scavenger hunt (Mid Michigan College?) & throwing out offers to just about anybody who can play in the upcoming semester. I'm not saying TJ can't be a successful player for us - just that our initial evaluations didn't make him someone we'd have offered. So why would we have courted him? As for Kirby... sure, he's far and away our most successful recruiter. But he seems to have fallen into this one. Feagin would have easily been the best guard PE coached @ Gtown, his Pops was correct in his assessment of him... This could be said for a number of the incoming players... As for TJ, I don't think he's a reach at all if he played out the year before committing he would have gotten some solid offers in my view...
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