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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 2:37:33 GMT -5
22pts 5 3's
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 4:05:31 GMT -5
A real three point threat and good basketball IQ. Good late pickup by the staff
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Post by HamptonHoya on May 13, 2020 5:25:58 GMT -5
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Post by hoyazeke on May 13, 2020 7:20:24 GMT -5
Talk about the staff moving in silence. I don't remember one mention of this young man on the site and I wake up this morning to a commitment. Welcome to the Hilltop TJ... LET'S GO!!!
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Post by rockhoya on May 13, 2020 8:06:12 GMT -5
Further evidence that for the most part most of this board is out of the loop.
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Post by RBHoya on May 13, 2020 8:57:41 GMT -5
Hard to gauge exactly how well he'll translate, but in concept a combo guard whose specialty is outside shooting is a good addition. Fits right in with most of the rest of the class in that he didn't garner significant attention from other high majors. That can either be viewed as very concerning or as a sign that our staff is moving toward overlooked players that fit the culture of what we're trying to do, depending on your perspective. Results over the next couple years will determine whether they were just reaching for mid and low major caliber players because that's all they were capable of landing or whether they had a bigger vision and were able to see things that the recruiting "experts" couldn't.
I don't really have issues with giving him the last scholarship. Most of the other options for the scholarship either seemed unlikely (ie. the kid from Arizona State) or didn't really excite me any more than Berger (like the JuCo kid who put us in his final 2 yesterday). Maybe the only head scratching part to me is that we now don't have a scholarship for Cisse, who I think will almost definitely reclass to 2020 and has us in his final 6. None of us thought we really had any chance at that kid, but it's a little strange that after all the time and effort we put into recruiting him we made his Final 6 and then a week later gave the scholarship away. Maybe the staff saw what we saw and didn't think we could beat out the SEC powers/FSU/Memphis for him, but if that's the case why were we investing so much time in him all along, given that we were always going to be up against that crowd? Oh well.
I don't have major issues with taking D. Harris/Beard/Berger all in one class either. I know on twitter there was a lot of eye-rolling about following up last year's 3 center class with a 3 point guard class this year, but I really don't see it as an issue. If you're going to take 5 true freshmen, and not going to take a center after loading up on them last year, you're going to have some positional redundancy. It's true that at least one and probably at least two of the true freshmen guards will be outside of the regular rotation this coming season, as Mac, Blair and Jalen Harris will probably command most of the minutes. But I'm just a believer that these things will work themselves out. Rosters are so much more dynamic today than they used to be. A high % of players transfer, and that number will increase even more dramatically if they grant the one time waiver next year. I feel like a lot of people suggest that we need to strategically target sit-one/play-one transfers or JuCOs to get class balance back, and yea, that's one way to do it. But another way is to bring in the best players you can find and see who emerges, recognizing that the guys who can't crack the rotation are likely to move on to a school that gives them a better opportunity for playing time. It may sound callous to those who are still in the old school mindset, but transferring is not some taboo thing like it used to be. It happens, and if some of the kids we are bringing in in the class of 2020 aren't getting regular run by their sophomore years they will move on, thus freeing up scholarships for the high school class of 2022 when we need them. Class balance isn't something to actively aspire to IMHO, just get the best players you can and it will generally take care of itself.
Anyhow, if Berger is actually the shooter that some suggest, he'll find a role. Given that we're late in the process and pickings are somewhat slim, I don't mind giving him a shot. The fact that his dad coaches one of the best high school teams in the region and so it could help us a bit with other top recruits is a bonus.
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Post by phniousgren on May 13, 2020 9:00:18 GMT -5
I said something similar to a friend just recently. For the most part (not totally) if a kid appears on this board before being signed or announcing a verbal commitment to us he won't be coming here. It's like the curse of the bambino or the sports illustrated cover curse. Our last three commitments Harris, Bile and now Berger nobody (aside from their recruiter) even knew had offers or hoya interest. I remember that being the case last year with Terrell Allen.
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Post by NCHoya on May 13, 2020 9:02:26 GMT -5
247sports.com/college/georgetown/Article/Class-of-2020-Point-Guard-TJ-Berger-Commits-to-Georgetown-147088645/Notably, Berger was teammates at Westtown School with two top-30 recruits in the Class of 2021, guard Jalen Warley and center Franck Kepnang. Georgetown has offered both these players, and hosted Kepnang at a game this past season. Berger's dad, Seth, is also the head coach at Westtown. In addition to playing with Warley and Kepnang, Berger has also played alongside some other impressive players at the high school level, including Mo Bamba (Texas), Cam Reddish (Duke), Jalen Gaffney (UCONN) and Brandon Randolph (Arizona). Berger came to Westtown School as a 5-foot-9 guard, and hit a massive growth spurt, reaching 6-foot-3 as a senior. He was named a team captain as a senior, and was named first team All-Friends School League as a junior and a senior. We needed a shooter in this class badly, so the offer makes sense, but it makes so much more sense given the background provided by hoyas315. Berger is a late bloomer and has a very strong network within prep basketball via his dad and teammates. This is a big picture signing by Coach Ewing.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on May 13, 2020 9:09:40 GMT -5
What makes him effective is he can dribble and drive as well. You can’t just play him to shoot. He’s the type of player that’s killed us in the past. You’re never out of a game when you have a +40% shooter from deep three.
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Post by professorhoya on May 13, 2020 9:11:42 GMT -5
What makes him effective is he can dribble and drive as well. You can’t just play him to shoot. He’s the type of player that’s killed us in the past. You’re never out of a game when you have a +40% shooter from deep three. He can also get above the rim. I like that Patrick is going for only A-level athletes (besides Akinjo who played below the rim but was incredibly skilled and smart which made up for that)
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Post by TC on May 13, 2020 9:14:53 GMT -5
What makes him effective is he can dribble and drive as well. You can’t just play him to shoot. He’s the type of player that’s killed us in the past. You’re never out of a game when you have a +40% shooter from deep three. He can also get above the rim. I like that Patrick is going for only A-level athletes (besides Akinjo who played below the rim but was incredibly skilled and smart which made up for that) This kid is not an A-level athlete from what I see on the tape. He's highly skilled though, and does a ton of stuff that will make him an efficient player, and the importance of A-level athletes is overrated. I think I'd trade 1 year of Sibande - who is an A-level athlete - for 4 of this kid.
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Post by rockhoya on May 13, 2020 9:24:34 GMT -5
What makes him effective is he can dribble and drive as well. You can’t just play him to shoot. He’s the type of player that’s killed us in the past. You’re never out of a game when you have a +40% shooter from deep three. He can also get above the rim. I like that Patrick is going for only A-level athletes (besides Akinjo who played below the rim but was incredibly skilled and smart which made up for that) Akinjo is a better athlete than this kid?
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Post by bostonfan on May 13, 2020 9:29:09 GMT -5
What makes him effective is he can dribble and drive as well. You can’t just play him to shoot. He’s the type of player that’s killed us in the past. You’re never out of a game when you have a +40% shooter from deep three. He can also get above the rim. I like that Patrick is going for only A-level athletes (besides Akinjo who played below the rim but was incredibly skilled and smart which made up for that) Berger can dunk, but as a 6' 3" D1 player, that in itself is not a huge deal. I don't see an A-level athlete in his highlights (he doesn't appear to be overly explosive) but he does look like he plays with smarts and poise, and he can really shoot the ball. The release point looks a little bit low, but he gets his shot off quickly so that can help compensate for the low release point. If his high 3 point percentage translates from high school to college, then he will be a valuable addition.
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Post by TC on May 13, 2020 9:35:14 GMT -5
He can also get above the rim. I like that Patrick is going for only A-level athletes (besides Akinjo who played below the rim but was incredibly skilled and smart which made up for that) Akinjo is a better athlete than this kid? Basing off youtube videos, absolutely.
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Post by rockhoya on May 13, 2020 9:42:39 GMT -5
Almost reminds me of a guard version of Bertans. Flamethrower. (Also his jumper slighty reminds me of a cross between Bertans and Jordan Crawford’s a little).
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Post by professorhoya on May 13, 2020 9:48:43 GMT -5
He can also get above the rim. I like that Patrick is going for only A-level athletes (besides Akinjo who played below the rim but was incredibly skilled and smart which made up for that) Berger can dunk, but as a 6' 3" D1 player, that in itself is not a huge deal. I don't see an A-level athlete in his highlights (he doesn't appear to be overly explosive) but he does look like he plays with smarts and poise, and he can really shoot the ball. The release point looks a little bit low, but he gets his shot off quickly so that can help compensate for the low release point. If his high 3 point percentage translates from high school to college, then he will be a valuable addition. Maybe I missed it but I’ve never seen Akinjo or Reggie Cameron or caprio dunk in a game. Malinowski tried once but I think failed. For a while we had a lot of c level athletes who could be physically and at helical you dominated Ewing puts a premium on nba level measureables
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Post by jwp91 on May 13, 2020 10:18:22 GMT -5
The more I watch the more I love this commitment,.
His range is deeper than I have seen from any Hoya in recent memory He is comfortable in the PNR offense. He can play sitting at the baseline waiting for the 3. He moves the ball.
This is exactly the kind of player we need. If he is a two star, give me a bunch more just like him.
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Post by s4hoyas on May 13, 2020 11:03:29 GMT -5
For you folks stuck on this "A level athlete" point of view, was Stephen Curry an A level athlete coming out of HS...how about Larry Bird?...I could go on, but you get my drift...this kid can play the game of basketball very well, and shoot the lights out along the way...glad he's aboard...
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Post by TC on May 13, 2020 11:10:11 GMT -5
I would love to know which assistant pulled a kid who committed to his parent's school over to us - and what made him jump.
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Post by TC on May 13, 2020 11:17:37 GMT -5
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