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Post by bearsandbulls on Jul 7, 2020 18:08:46 GMT -5
So is the school going to continue in this fashion with no accommodation for tuition. Last spring was tough enough with online and then returning about 1/8 of dorm payments when students left in mid March from dorms(clearly close to 1/4 year). I know the schools/school need the money very bad, but this is really a bit much. If you are a sophomore or a junior and live off campus, you can only walk on campus, cannot enter buildings. So now another semester at full price. Value received. How about student to student contact and sharing in discussions, etc., etc., etc. It is absolutely not the same and at the same dollar.
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Post by CTHoya08 on Jul 7, 2020 19:09:47 GMT -5
I don’t know the details of the contracts (including the dollar amounts for any guarantee games), but I’d have to think that the potential liabilities of holding the games are enough to outweigh the payments that might be owed to the cupcakes.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2020 15:16:19 GMT -5
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Post by daveg023 on Jul 8, 2020 15:27:17 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe any basketball gets played before Jan 1. I think the Power 5 will break free and try to make football work because there’s just too much money at stake, but everything else (basketball) included is looking less and less likely until at least Spring.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jul 8, 2020 15:42:35 GMT -5
"Stanford, which has long boasted one of the most robust collections of varsity sports in the country, will cut 11 of its varsity programs at the conclusion of the 2020-21 academic year as it deals with the ongoing financial ramifications of the coronavirus pandemic. The 11 sports that will be discontinued are men's and women's fencing, field hockey, lightweight rowing, men's rowing, co-ed and women's sailing, squash, synchronized swimming, men's volleyball and wrestling." www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/29429478/stanford-cut-11-varsity-sports-cites-pandemic-breaking-pointWe've seen some schools cut a sport here and there, but this is pretty significant (especially for a school with the financial standing of a Stanford). Can't help but think more and more schools will go this route as part of cost saving procedures and that the process likely accelerates without the benefit of football/basketball revenue in the event of canceled seasons.
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Post by hoyas315 on Jul 8, 2020 16:13:40 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe any basketball gets played before Jan 1. I think the Power 5 will break free and try to make football work because there’s just too much money at stake, but everything else (basketball) included is looking less and less likely until at least Spring.
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Post by TC on Jul 8, 2020 16:16:55 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe any basketball gets played before Jan 1. I think the Power 5 will break free and try to make football work because there’s just too much money at stake, but everything else (basketball) included is looking less and less likely until at least Spring. You probably could have stopped at "played". What changes between now and January 1st?
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Post by daveg023 on Jul 8, 2020 16:48:42 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe any basketball gets played before Jan 1. I think the Power 5 will break free and try to make football work because there’s just too much money at stake, but everything else (basketball) included is looking less and less likely until at least Spring. You probably could have stopped at "played". What changes between now and January 1st? I don’t disagree with that sentiment. I just was referring to the “through date” the Ivies gave. You could argue though that by then there’s at least proven therapeutics that would give comfort to administrators and athletes alike. 6 months is still a long way off in the grand scheme of things if you realize it’s not even been 4 months since the BET cancellation.
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Post by blueandgray on Jul 9, 2020 3:57:46 GMT -5
If no basketball gets played this year...imagine how many grad transfers there will be eligible to play immediately the year after.
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Post by bostonfan on Jul 9, 2020 7:24:24 GMT -5
If no basketball gets played this year...imagine how many grad transfers there will be eligible to play immediately the year after. If there are no college games, I wonder what happens to the guys who transferred, hoping for the instant waiver, to play one year and then go into the draft? Like Mac and a few other big name transfers? Wonder if those kids decide to stay in college for the following season or if they just declare for then draft after this NBA season.
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Post by TC on Jul 9, 2020 11:27:43 GMT -5
You probably could have stopped at "played". What changes between now and January 1st? I don’t disagree with that sentiment. I just was referring to the “through date” the Ivies gave. You could argue though that by then there’s at least proven therapeutics that would give comfort to administrators and athletes alike. 6 months is still a long way off in the grand scheme of things if you realize it’s not even been 4 months since the BET cancellation. The things that I think actually change things are : - national leadership that prioritizes testing, masking, and contact tracing and that makes it so ubiquitous that you can have school and sports - vaccine Until we get at least one of those two, I can't see how we have college, much less college sports. The thing I don't think people are really thinking about yet is that Americans have latched onto fringe ideas like vaccination being bad - we're probably looking at fan-less 2021-2022 sports. Even if you have a mass produced vaccine by then, if 30% of Americans refuse to vaccinate (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/7-in-10-americans-would-be-likely-to-get-a-coronavirus-vaccine-a-post-abc-poll-finds/2020/06/01/4d1f8f68-a429-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html) are we going to get herd immunity?
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 9, 2020 15:18:40 GMT -5
If we have any basketball season, have to think it is conference-only starting in January.
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Post by mdtd on Jul 9, 2020 16:24:43 GMT -5
If we have any basketball season, have to think it is conference-only starting in January. I'd say having a pretty local non-conference schedule then going into a full conference schedule is an option, too. A lot can change in four months (for better or worse) and starting the season later then having a May/June Madness when considering the NBA is planning to start December first as of now, this seems to still be an option, so long as teams can secure venues to play at. If the season is postponed a month or so, there can be a non conference schedule and I hope this can work well. But what I can say very confidently is I'd be shocked if the Wooden Classic in Anaheim happens.
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Post by professorhoya on Jul 9, 2020 18:19:42 GMT -5
If we have any basketball season, have to think it is conference-only starting in January. I really think the only way you can make it work is an NBA bubble system for each conference with online learning. (which most schools are going to anyway for regular students) And then another bubble for the NCAA tournament.
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Post by hoyas315 on Jul 10, 2020 12:08:48 GMT -5
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 10, 2020 12:20:10 GMT -5
Seems shortsighted. What may be active states now may not be in November and vice versa. See where New York was four months ago and where it is now.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Jul 10, 2020 13:10:19 GMT -5
Seems shortsighted. What may be active states now may not be in November and vice versa. See where New York was four months ago and where it is now. I agree with this but I think it's also reasonable to assume that Florida will continue to lead the nation in bad decisions. I would stay clear of Florida and the Dallas-Fort Worth area
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jul 12, 2020 4:04:49 GMT -5
All of the conference realignment to expand the geographic footprint and media markets is really going to come back to roost this season. I remember the days teams could be bused to all of the away games.
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Post by daveg023 on Jul 13, 2020 10:38:57 GMT -5
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