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Post by guru on Mar 30, 2020 10:09:29 GMT -5
The Davidson game was a perfect storm against us. First off, Davidson was criminally underseeded as a 10, and our having to play them in Round 2 as a 2 seed was really bad luck. Second, the game was a de facto home game for Davidson in North Carolina, another really bad draw considering we were the higher seeded team. And we had to face Curry. Using KenPom rankings, that Davidson team beat #25 Gonzaga, #7 Georgetown, and #5 Wisconsin. 10 seed my ... We were up by 17 a few minutes into the second half. It was coaching malpractice.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 30, 2020 12:01:36 GMT -5
The Davidson game was a perfect storm against us. First off, Davidson was criminally underseeded as a 10, and our having to play them in Round 2 as a 2 seed was really bad luck. Second, the game was a de facto home game for Davidson in North Carolina, another really bad draw considering we were the higher seeded team. And we had to face Curry. Using KenPom rankings, that Davidson team beat #25 Gonzaga, #7 Georgetown, and #5 Wisconsin. 10 seed my ... We were up by 17 a few minutes into the second half. It was coaching malpractice. Even if that's true, it does not take away that the other factors existed, or that it was a bad matchup. By chance, if we got seeded against the other 10 seeds, we probably win that game, and who knows how differently subsequent Georgetown history would have played out.
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Post by guru on Mar 30, 2020 14:49:17 GMT -5
We were up by 17 a few minutes into the second half. It was coaching malpractice. Even if that's true, it does not take away that the other factors existed, or that it was a bad matchup. By chance, if we got seeded against the other 10 seeds, we probably win that game, and who knows how differently subsequent Georgetown history would have played out. You could play that game with literally any outcome in sports history. Many teams get bad matchups via seeding in the NCAA tournament. The good teams take care of business and move on. The “bad luck” theory of our horrific NCAA tournament exits over the years is ridiculous - we were chokers, plain and simple.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 30, 2020 17:02:13 GMT -5
Good teams generally find a way to win. Our string of “bad luck” in the tournament was a clear pattern after so many data points. Hey, I guess we did make the tournament though. ☹️
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Post by tashoya on Mar 30, 2020 17:10:30 GMT -5
The free throw disparity didn't help either.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Mar 31, 2020 10:41:09 GMT -5
This game ranks #5 in my all-time heartbreakers.
1985 Nova Finals 1982 UNC Finals 1980 Iowa Elite 8 1996 UConn Big East Finals 2008 Davidson NCAA Round 2
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Mar 31, 2020 10:57:50 GMT -5
1985 Nova
1989 Dook
1996 You Con and You Mass
2002 ND
2007 O$U
2008 Davidson
2010 Slowhio
2013 Florida Underwater Basketweaving
Decades of PTSD...
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Post by paranoia2 on Mar 31, 2020 14:25:10 GMT -5
Just watched the game again. It was a really ty game period. No flow. Lot of whistles. Very little drama. Just bad basketball game where the best player on the floor got hot. Xavier 1990 2nd round while painful as hell was an exciting basketball game.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Mar 31, 2020 14:32:17 GMT -5
My one criticism of III in that game is not instructing Rivers and everyone else guarding Curry to make him earn it from the line. We should have face-guarded him, with hands up, forcing him to drive, and then all but body slammed him at the hoop. Make him hit thirty free throws to get thirty points. We had a lot of bodies and could have done that.
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Post by paranoia2 on Mar 31, 2020 15:10:59 GMT -5
Agreed. But the game was choppy. It wasn’t like a vintage Reggie Miller outburst vs the Knicks. It was disjointed. Tons of timeouts and delays and just a bad watch. I would argue that whatever Rivers offered defensively (I never saw his prowess defensively) his lack of offense was like playing 4-5. I think Austin Freeman should have played more. One or two more 3’s when up 11 (few minutes) or then up 7 ( another few minutes) could have been a dagger.
Jessie Sapp player fantastic. Macklin played well in first half.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 1, 2020 15:26:58 GMT -5
Even if that's true, it does not take away that the other factors existed, or that it was a bad matchup. By chance, if we got seeded against the other 10 seeds, we probably win that game, and who knows how differently subsequent Georgetown history would have played out. You could play that game with literally any outcome in sports history. Many teams get bad matchups via seeding in the NCAA tournament. The good teams take care of business and move on. The “bad luck” theory of our horrific NCAA tournament exits over the years is ridiculous - we were chokers, plain and simple. I won't deny that we choked in some of those games - FGCU comes to mind in that area. It was a very winnable game that we lost. As was the 2008 game. But, one cannot deny there is some element of luck. I mean, look at the 2001 Georgetown team. Georgetown made the Sweet 16 by beating #15 seed Hampton. Was that only "the good teams taking care of business," or some element of luck in drawing a good matchup? Esherick wasn't some sort of genius because he got to the Sweet 16, he largely got lucky.
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Post by 618hoya on Apr 2, 2020 7:50:01 GMT -5
I watched the replay last weekend, reluctantly. To me, it felt lke the defensive intensity Davidson played with the last 12 minutes or so was the difference. We got into the offense much later than normal. Coupled with Roy in constant foul trouble and the fact that the game turned into a home game for Davidson with the UNC fans joining the cause, it was a perfect storm.
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Post by hoyazeke on Apr 2, 2020 9:38:06 GMT -5
1985 Nova 1989 Dook 1996 You Con and You Mass 2002 ND 2007 O$U 2008 Davidson 2010 Slowhio 2013 Florida Underwater Basketweaving Decades of PTSD... 2006 Florida has to be an oversight...
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Apr 2, 2020 11:36:25 GMT -5
2006 UF was a good game, though. We did not choke but lost a very close contest after DJ Owens missed that wide-open three. While that stinks, I am proud of how the Hoyas competed against the eventual back-to-back champs, so I did not include it on my PTSD list.
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