DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 2, 2020 14:29:21 GMT -5
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Aug 2, 2020 21:58:48 GMT -5
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Aug 2, 2020 23:09:05 GMT -5
Meanwhile, here's the elected student government accusing the university of committing robbery. A wee bit of an escalation: A list of students demands is available at: t.co/nhKXNEIAzu
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Aug 2, 2020 23:18:14 GMT -5
More, etc. (FWIW, I know JJD and other senior folks have taken paycuts)
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Post by DallasHoya on Aug 2, 2020 23:25:04 GMT -5
More, etc. (FWIW, I know JJD and other senior folks have taken paycuts) So now it’s “robbery” to not give someone something to which they’re not entitled. The “progressive” mind at work.
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 3, 2020 16:58:12 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 4, 2020 14:22:17 GMT -5
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BSM
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Post by BSM on Aug 4, 2020 15:36:06 GMT -5
If I had answers, I'd offer them but the one thing clear to me is there are going to be some ticked off Alumni coming out of the next few graduating classes. Good luck to Development with the fundraising letters and emails. My wife got a kick out of the email that we received talking about Senior Auction and the Parents Weekend. Not sure how you tell students to stay away but are telling Parents to save the date.
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 4, 2020 15:36:34 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 4, 2020 17:19:06 GMT -5
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Aug 4, 2020 22:21:46 GMT -5
Not sure about the "literally" here, but no doubt many face severe impacts
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Aug 7, 2020 10:34:58 GMT -5
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Post by Elvado on Aug 7, 2020 10:47:11 GMT -5
Smart kids do smart things.
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Post by flyoverhoya on Aug 7, 2020 12:32:52 GMT -5
Mine did (at Swarthmore, not Harvard). Going to suck to be a rising high school senior applying to competitive colleges, however. If 20% of Harvard's class of '25 is already filled, their acceptance rate this coming year is going to be about 2%.
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Post by tgo on Aug 7, 2020 16:31:42 GMT -5
Pretty miserable for my incoming Freshman son, who already lost a good part of his senior year of high school. Seems like the right call to me since a good part of this country is still a mess (can't even keep baseball players safe with all of the resources MLB has). I think DC's new quarantine rules were basically the nail in the coffin. Trying to help him keep it all in perspective - so many people have been impacted by this pandemic in much more devastating ways, including a fellow Hoya classmate and friend who lost her husband. If you look at the anti-science, anti-mask crowd that is far too prevalent, I don't see an end in sight to this... Filo Why doesn't your son take the year off? College, especially at a place like GU, is more about the experience on campus and the things that grow you as a person aside from the academics. Remove that and also lower the quality of the education (no matter how good of a job they do, it wont be the same as being a class and getting to engage in discussion and talking about the subject matter while walking through the halls with your classmates afterwards) so why do it? Especially with the insane price tag but even if it were practically free, why make college only three years for your son? Same question to you DanMcQ and anyone else who has college age kids. Much harder decision if your child is returning instead of being a freshman.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Aug 9, 2020 0:26:20 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Aug 10, 2020 16:06:35 GMT -5
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 17, 2020 17:26:00 GMT -5
The actual thought and consideration put into Georgetown’s plan is self evident compared to this.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Aug 17, 2020 18:33:49 GMT -5
For those with a little time, here's a perspective on how universities as institutions are best prepared to deal (or not deal) with lost revenue from the current situation. From the Syracuse Post-Standard: "Scott Galloway, a New York University marketing professor, has published a blog post outlining which schools are expected to “perish, struggle, survive or thrive” due to Covid-19. He listed 437 colleges and universities, comparing their tuition, endowment, percentage of international students, and other data from the U.S. Department of Education, US News & World Report and Niche.com’s Student Life Scores. Galloway then divided schools into four quadrants based on their “vulnerability score,” warning those with low endowments and dependence on international students’ tuition and fees — especially if students decide to wait a semester or year before returning even if their schools reopen for in-person learning this fall." The key drivers are value (per a formula) against vulnerability (endowment per student and percentage of international students). Georgetown placed 10th in value and 135th on endowment per student, landing it in tier 2, "survive", or high value, high vulnerability institutions, such as UC-Berkeley, Chicago, Columbia, Brown, USC, NYU, Syracuse, and Wake Forest. The "thrive" schools, scoring on high value and low vulnerability, included most of the Ivies, high endowment schools like Texas, Texas A&M, Notre Dame, Richmond, and Washington (MO), and small but well endowed liberal arts schools like Davidson, Amherst, and Holy Cross. The "struggle" schools, scoring on low value and low vulnerability, is a mixed bag of other private schools such as Reed, Vassar, Sewanee, and Furman. The "challenged" schools (originally called "perish") scores low on value and high on vulnerability--the professor's version of the intensive care unit. It is a collection of the small colleges that few hear of (College of St. Benedict, Warren Wilson, Shenandoah), along with some big name liberal arts schools that you have heard of (Smith, Brandeis, Franklin & Marshall, Sarah Lawrence.) Among Catholic schools, this quadrant also includes St. John's, Seton Hall, Fordham, Detroit-Mercy, and Catholic University of America. Various experts suggest 10 to 20% of American higher education is at risk with a continued public health crisis, and you can't make up the money by increasing enrollment (or tuition) the following year to make up the gap. This is not a definitive list but one worth some discussion. www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2020/07/14-colleges-in-ny-likely-to-perish-in-coronavirus-pandemic-new-analysis-says.htmlwww.profgalloway.com/uss-university(Includes link to data)
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 18, 2020 16:55:13 GMT -5
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