SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Jul 11, 2020 12:32:01 GMT -5
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 14, 2020 12:18:38 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 14, 2020 14:57:51 GMT -5
Harvard and MIT have filed suit against the Government to stop them from revoking the status of non-immigrant students in the U.S. whose schools go all-virtual due to Covid-19:
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BSM
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Post by BSM on Jul 15, 2020 11:52:13 GMT -5
If you take a look at the Inside Higher Ed Covid-19 updates, Rice is erecting "Circus Tents" (with open sides) on campus to hold socially distant in-person classes. Another reason to lament the lack of green space on campus. We don't even have enough room to erect a tent for Senior Ball.
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DallasHoya
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Post by DallasHoya on Jul 15, 2020 12:22:41 GMT -5
If you take a look at the Inside Higher Ed Covid-19 updates, Rice is erecting "Circus Tents" (with open sides) on campus to hold socially distant in-person classes. Another reason to lament the lack of green space on campus. We don't even have enough room to erect a tent for Senior Ball. Rice actually has more trees on its campus than students.
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Post by flyoverhoya on Jul 15, 2020 13:25:07 GMT -5
If you take a look at the Inside Higher Ed Covid-19 updates, Rice is erecting "Circus Tents" (with open sides) on campus to hold socially distant in-person classes. Another reason to lament the lack of green space on campus. We don't even have enough room to erect a tent for Senior Ball. Rice actually has more trees on its campus than students. The prospect of late August/early September classes outdoors in Houston is fairly awful, irrespective of the number of trees.
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 15, 2020 17:00:00 GMT -5
We should change the name of this forum to ForestryTalk
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Post by flyoverhoya on Jul 20, 2020 9:14:48 GMT -5
My daughter has opted to defer for a year from college in greater Philly due to all of this. Hard to get a sense of how common that is overall. Would hate to be a rising H.S. senior this year.
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LCPolo18
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 21, 2020 13:36:40 GMT -5
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 21, 2020 13:47:21 GMT -5
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Jul 22, 2020 7:53:32 GMT -5
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Jul 22, 2020 8:07:25 GMT -5
What largesse. You get the right to pay 90% tuition to watch classes from your room at home. The Rubicon to outright theft has now been crossed.
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Nevada Hoya
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Jul 22, 2020 11:01:47 GMT -5
I wonder how they teach labs with distance learning?
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Jul 22, 2020 22:22:56 GMT -5
In a lot of ways, the hybrid model chosen is the *most* expensive of all. Certainly there are pretty substantial up-front/start-up costs associated with making pretty much every class pedagogically worthwhile through remote means. It ain't as simple as just setting up a single camera and putting it on Zoom.
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hoya95
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Post by hoya95 on Jul 29, 2020 12:40:43 GMT -5
No more first years to start the year at least.
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 29, 2020 12:41:45 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 29, 2020 12:51:46 GMT -5
Follow-up from the Provost:
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Filo
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Post by Filo on Jul 29, 2020 19:30:20 GMT -5
Pretty miserable for my incoming Freshman son, who already lost a good part of his senior year of high school. Seems like the right call to me since a good part of this country is still a mess (can't even keep baseball players safe with all of the resources MLB has). I think DC's new quarantine rules were basically the nail in the coffin.
Trying to help him keep it all in perspective - so many people have been impacted by this pandemic in much more devastating ways, including a fellow Hoya classmate and friend who lost her husband.
If you look at the anti-science, anti-mask crowd that is far too prevalent, I don't see an end in sight to this...
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 1, 2020 14:12:06 GMT -5
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Aug 1, 2020 22:41:42 GMT -5
I'm also hearing a LOT of unhappiness about financial aid awards for this upcoming semester, with undergrads report seeing major reductions in their grants. Student loans remain available, of course, but if you're already from a lower economic stratum than the average Hoya (as I was), the prospect of taking out many tens or even into the hudnreds of thousands of dollars in loans is a terrifying prospect.
In some ways, the blanket tuition discount actually makes this worse. While there was a lot of non-unjustified grumbling about paying the same amount of virtual instruction, the reality is that a lot of the families paying sticker price will not much notice the difference one way or another. The current tuition structure at elite private universities, especially the COFHE schools, is one of implicit subsidy/wealth transfer: sticker price keeps going up, the Top 1-5% who disproportionately make up the sticker price payers can afford it, and this subsidizes the financial aid recipients. A topline cut goes against this.*
One can say that these schools did it to themselves, trumpeting full-need financial aid to the point where the ability to finance a college education at these sorts of places became seen as something like an entitlement.
*Standard disclaimer: the upper-middle class is who tends to get squeezed in between these two poles - too wealthy for generous financial aid at Georgetown, not wealthy enough to sneeze at sticker price. Little wonder that so many of them end up tracked for BigLaw/Big Four Accounting/MBB Consulting/I-Banking - they've got beaucoup loans to pay off.
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