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Post by trillesthoya on Mar 15, 2020 12:03:06 GMT -5
I certainly would love to have him and feel the staff needs a kid to take a chance on the Hoyas... but still I wonder why is he leaning the Hoyas way? He has time to weigh his options and look at many schools as he is a class of 21. Time is on his side. Not a knock on him and like I said Hoyas would start him from day 1 and program needs day 1 type talent. Becuse Georgetown still has a brand despite what all th emillenials on this board try to say Georgetown still has a brand for people that are about 27 and older. Everyone younger than that, we don’t really. Which unfortunately includes all future recruits.
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Post by rockhoya on Mar 15, 2020 12:12:45 GMT -5
Becuse Georgetown still has a brand despite what all th emillenials on this board try to say Georgetown still has a brand for people that are about 27 and older. Everyone younger than that, we don’t really. Which unfortunately includes all future recruits. Tell that to Frankie Collins, the subject of this discussion. He must really be into not going to the NCAAs then... Not to mention one not need be 27 to have people in your life in that age range who share their interests and preferences with you. Aka those who bear influence.
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Post by hoyas89 on Mar 15, 2020 12:28:20 GMT -5
When will the readers and posters of this board realize that potential recruits read this !? And that the idiotic and critical posts which for the most part are conjecture and uninformed non-sense hurt our chances with said recruit? Not saying people don’t have a right to express views or opinions. But to question why any recruit would be interested in GU is foolish mainly because that poster has absolutely NO idea about the recruit’s and his family’s desires or dreams. Please use common sense.
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Post by IDenj on Mar 15, 2020 12:42:38 GMT -5
When will the readers and posters of this board realize that potential recruits read this !? And that the idiotic and critical posts which for the most part are conjecture and uninformed non-sense hurt our chances with said recruit? Not saying people don’t have a right to express views or opinions. But to question why any recruit would be interested in GU is foolish mainly because that poster has absolutely NO idea about the recruit’s and his family’s desires or dreams. Please use common sense. Good. So if he is reading this then he is more than welcome in explaining his thought process. As a huge fan of this program I’d love to see him land at the Hilltop. And maybe his connection is so strong with the staff he feels there is no other place for him. But if he’s as talented as he we are led to believe landing in a great basketball program won’t be difficult. Considering we are bringing up the rear in the BE, haven’t really put anyone in the NBA in many years, just lost 4 players mid season under dubious conditions and will be graduating our top F and top G with little known talent behind them, I’m curious what attracts him to this situation.
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Post by IDenj on Mar 15, 2020 12:44:25 GMT -5
I certainly would love to have him and feel the staff needs a kid to take a chance on the Hoyas... but still I wonder why is he leaning the Hoyas way? He has time to weigh his options and look at many schools as he is a class of 21. Time is on his side. Not a knock on him and like I said Hoyas would start him from day 1 and program needs day 1 type talent. Becuse Georgetown still has a brand despite what all th emillenials on this board try to say I’m 46. I remember visiting the school as a child as my uncle was a prof there for 20 years back in the early 80’s. And no Georgetown isn’t a brand anymore outside of a few fans that truly believe the program is relevant.
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Post by rockhoya on Mar 15, 2020 12:50:07 GMT -5
Becuse Georgetown still has a brand despite what all th emillenials on this board try to say I’m 46. I remember visiting the school as a child as my uncle was a prof there for 20 years back in the early 80’s. And no Georgetown isn’t a brand anymore outside of a few fans that truly believe the program is relevant. Nobody is saying we have the same brand we had 35 years ago or even 10 years ago....but we still have a brand. Jesus. If you don’t understand the unique position that Gtown is in in relation to its resources and rich history then you’re blind no offense. I’ll never get the constant negativity and constant urge to poo poo on the program. Literally stop being a fan then if you don’t think the school offers anything useful. Don’t be a fan then if a top 50 recruit shows his attraction to the school and your first urge is to ask “why on earth would he be interested?” One need not be born in the 80s or be 46 to appreciate Georgetown basketball. Also, no offense, but just because you’re old doesn’t make you the authority on all things historic or present... All people do around here is complain and complain and complain without offering any original thought or creative solutions. It’s weak. Once again, I’m out and over the self-misery you “fans” enjoy around here.
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Post by gojeffgoroyunder7 on Mar 15, 2020 12:51:18 GMT -5
I’m 46. I remember visiting the school as a child as my uncle was a prof there for 20 years back in the early 80’s. And no Georgetown isn’t a brand anymore outside of a few fans that truly believe the program is relevant. Nobody is saying we have the same brand we had 35 years ago or even 10 years ago....but we still have a brand. Jesus. If you don’t understand the unique position that Gtown is in in relation to its resources and rich history then you’re blind no offense. I’ll never get the constant negativity and constant urge to poo poo on the program. Literally stop being a fan then if you don’t think the school offers anything useful. Don’t be a fan then if a top 50 recruit shows his attraction to the school and your first urge is to ask “why on earth would he be interested?” One need not be born in the 80s or be 46 to appreciate Georgetown basketball. Also, no offense, but just because you’re old doesn’t make you the authority on all things historic or present... All people do around here is complain and complain and complain without offering any original thought or creative solutions. It’s weak. Once again, I’m out and over the self-misery you “fans” enjoy around here. x 100. Spot on.
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Post by IDenj on Mar 15, 2020 13:29:50 GMT -5
I’m 46. I remember visiting the school as a child as my uncle was a prof there for 20 years back in the early 80’s. And no Georgetown isn’t a brand anymore outside of a few fans that truly believe the program is relevant. Nobody is saying we have the same brand we had 35 years ago or even 10 years ago....but we still have a brand. Jesus. If you don’t understand the unique position that Gtown is in in relation to its resources and rich history then you’re blind no offense. I’ll never get the constant negativity and constant urge to poo poo on the program. Literally stop being a fan then if you don’t think the school offers anything useful. Don’t be a fan then if a top 50 recruit shows his attraction to the school and your first urge is to ask “why on earth would he be interested?” One need not be born in the 80s or be 46 to appreciate Georgetown basketball. Also, no offense, but just because you’re old doesn’t make you the authority on all things historic or present... All people do around here is complain and complain and complain without offering any original thought or creative solutions. It’s weak. Once again, I’m out and over the self-misery you “fans” enjoy around here. How very MAGA of you. Don’t like my point of view so paint me with a certain brush without acknowledging that other opinions may be valid. Such an ill informed take on your part; I’m not always a negative Nellie. When everyone was dumping on Pat I defended him and still do. But the reality is this program is in the dumps. You are what your record says you are. Clinging to some distant past and claiming we still are a brand will not change the perception of the program. It reeks of desperation.
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Post by rockhoya on Mar 15, 2020 13:42:59 GMT -5
Nobody is saying we have the same brand we had 35 years ago or even 10 years ago....but we still have a brand. Jesus. If you don’t understand the unique position that Gtown is in in relation to its resources and rich history then you’re blind no offense. I’ll never get the constant negativity and constant urge to poo poo on the program. Literally stop being a fan then if you don’t think the school offers anything useful. Don’t be a fan then if a top 50 recruit shows his attraction to the school and your first urge is to ask “why on earth would he be interested?” One need not be born in the 80s or be 46 to appreciate Georgetown basketball. Also, no offense, but just because you’re old doesn’t make you the authority on all things historic or present... All people do around here is complain and complain and complain without offering any original thought or creative solutions. It’s weak. Once again, I’m out and over the self-misery you “fans” enjoy around here. How very MAGA of you. Don’t like my point of view so paint me with a certain brush without acknowledging that other opinions may be valid. Such an ill informed take on your part; I’m not always a negative Nellie. When everyone was dumping on Pat I defended him and still do. But the reality is this program is in the dumps. You are what your record says you are. Clinging to some distant past and claiming we still are a brand will not change the perception of the program. It reeks of desperation. No, it’s MAGA of you to think that all that matters is your freedom of expression, damn the consequences. There are levels to everything. Don’t let the golden era of participation badges fool you. Nobody is clinging to a distance pass. We have an elite combination of academics and athletic opportunity. For you to choose to not recognize that in the name of being difficult and melodramatic is asinine. Especially in light of some of the comments on this thread. It’s a mentality of weakness that you seem to carry. Nobody needs to remind themselves every second of everyday that there are others doing better. There will always be others doing better. To harp on it (not to mention our shortcomings are obvious to everyone inside and outside of the program) over and over and over and over and over again is weak. Literally what is the point? One need not sign in to hoyatalk everyday and declare how far we’ve fallen and then police every post to shoot down any glimmer of positivity or even reality. It’s a sign of a very unhealthy mind, period. And no, it’s not MAGA of me to believe that there are some objective truths. It’s very MAGA of you to see differing opinions as an attack on your personhood....and get over your constant desire to be “right”. Nobody cares it’s an anonymous message board....nobody said anything about you always being negative anything. Get your head out of your but and maybe to you’ll realize I employed “you” in the general sense... Again, nobody is clinging to the past. In 2020 we are still one of the best schools in the world and offer a top-notch basketball foundation. Your circuitous justification for your negative attitude reeks of desperation actually.....it’s desperate and spineless. Sports aren’t for the faint of heart. But really any truly I’m done here, recruits don’t want to be reading this stuff....
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Post by rockhoya on Mar 15, 2020 13:49:30 GMT -5
When will the readers and posters of this board realize that potential recruits read this !? And that the idiotic and critical posts which for the most part are conjecture and uninformed non-sense hurt our chances with said recruit? Not saying people don’t have a right to express views or opinions. But to question why any recruit would be interested in GU is foolish mainly because that poster has absolutely NO idea about the recruit’s and his family’s desires or dreams. Please use common sense. Good. So if he is reading this then he is more than welcome in explaining his thought process. As a huge fan of this program I’d love to see him land at the Hilltop. And maybe his connection is so strong with the staff he feels there is no other place for him. But if he’s as talented as he we are led to believe landing in a great basketball program won’t be difficult. Considering we are bringing up the rear in the BE, haven’t really put anyone in the NBA in many years, just lost 4 players mid season under dubious conditions and will be graduating our top F and top G with little known talent behind them, I’m curious what attracts him to this situation. You should seek some help. You, presumably an adult, really just wrote this? You’re demanding a top 50 recruit declare to Hoyatalk his inner most thoughts because you have no self-discipline and feel the need to make your opinion heard no matter the consequences? Or you can’t just hold your tongue for 5 mins? I guess you don’t buy that he’s be reading this thread. I guess you’d be mistaken though. If you have nothing nice to say...
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Post by Omega on Mar 15, 2020 14:05:48 GMT -5
When will the readers and posters of this board realize that potential recruits read this !? And that the idiotic and critical posts which for the most part are conjecture and uninformed non-sense hurt our chances with said recruit? Not saying people don’t have a right to express views or opinions. But to question why any recruit would be interested in GU is foolish mainly because that poster has absolutely NO idea about the recruit’s and his family’s desires or dreams. Please use common sense. Good. So if he is reading this then he is more than welcome in explaining his thought process. As a huge fan of this program I’d love to see him land at the Hilltop. And maybe his connection is so strong with the staff he feels there is no other place for him. But if he’s as talented as he we are led to believe landing in a great basketball program won’t be difficult. Considering we are bringing up the rear in the BE, haven’t really put anyone in the NBA in many years, just lost 4 players mid season under dubious conditions and will be graduating our top F and top G with little known talent behind them, I’m curious what attracts him to this situation. More loser speak...it's odd that so many people claim to be fans, yet question why a recruit would be interested in the program they claim to love.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 15, 2020 14:15:24 GMT -5
Wow this kid has some ups. Much better athlete than Akinjo. He also knows how to use the reverse layup. How tall is he? Doesn't look that tall but major ups.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 15, 2020 14:17:23 GMT -5
When will the readers and posters of this board realize that potential recruits read this !? And that the idiotic and critical posts which for the most part are conjecture and uninformed non-sense hurt our chances with said recruit? Not saying people don’t have a right to express views or opinions. But to question why any recruit would be interested in GU is foolish mainly because that poster has absolutely NO idea about the recruit’s and his family’s desires or dreams. Please use common sense. That's part of the problem. He who must be named and his minions constantly steer recruit away with their for a reason negative takes.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 15, 2020 14:19:15 GMT -5
When will the readers and posters of this board realize that potential recruits read this !? And that the idiotic and critical posts which for the most part are conjecture and uninformed non-sense hurt our chances with said recruit? Not saying people don’t have a right to express views or opinions. But to question why any recruit would be interested in GU is foolish mainly because that poster has absolutely NO idea about the recruit’s and his family’s desires or dreams. Please use common sense. Good. So if he is reading this then he is more than welcome in explaining his thought process. As a huge fan of this program I’d love to see him land at the Hilltop. And maybe his connection is so strong with the staff he feels there is no other place for him. But if he’s as talented as he we are led to believe landing in a great basketball program won’t be difficult. Considering we are bringing up the rear in the BE, haven’t really put anyone in the NBA in many years, just lost 4 players mid season under dubious conditions and will be graduating our top F and top G with little known talent behind them, I’m curious what attracts him to this situation. You're basically working on behalf of all the other teams. Makes their job easy when you are doing it for them.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Mar 15, 2020 14:21:22 GMT -5
Glad to see none of the board posters is exhibiting signs of frayed nerves.
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Post by IDenj on Mar 15, 2020 14:42:45 GMT -5
How very MAGA of you. Don’t like my point of view so paint me with a certain brush without acknowledging that other opinions may be valid. Such an ill informed take on your part; I’m not always a negative Nellie. When everyone was dumping on Pat I defended him and still do. But the reality is this program is in the dumps. You are what your record says you are. Clinging to some distant past and claiming we still are a brand will not change the perception of the program. It reeks of desperation. No, it’s MAGA of you to think that all that matters is your freedom of expression, damn the consequences. There are levels to everything. Don’t let the golden era of participation badges fool you. Nobody is clinging to a distance pass. We have an elite combination of academics and athletic opportunity. For you to choose to not recognize that in the name of being difficult and melodramatic is asinine. Especially in light of some of the comments on this thread. It’s a mentality of weakness that you seem to carry. Nobody needs to remind themselves every second of everyday that there are others doing better. There will always be others doing better. To harp on it (not to mention our shortcomings are obvious to everyone inside and outside of the program) over and over and over and over and over again is weak. Literally what is the point? One need not sign in to hoyatalk everyday and declare how far we’ve fallen and then police every post to shoot down any glimmer of positivity or even reality. It’s a sign of a very unhealthy mind, period. And no, it’s not MAGA of me to believe that there are some objective truths. It’s very MAGA of you to see differing opinions as an attack on your personhood....and get over your constant desire to be “right”. Nobody cares it’s an anonymous message board....nobody said anything about you always being negative anything. Get your head out of your but and maybe to you’ll realize I employed “you” in the general sense... Again, nobody is clinging to the past. In 2020 we are still one of the best schools in the world and offer a top-notch basketball foundation. Your circuitous justification for your negative attitude reeks of desperation actually.....it’s desperate and spineless. Sports aren’t for the faint of heart. But really any truly I’m done here, recruits don’t want to be reading this stuff.... You keep saying you’re done, but continue to attempt to belittle. Like I said from the beginning I truly hope he chooses the Hoyas. You gloss over that fact and refuse to see the reality in the situation. That amongst his many suitors and possibilities he seemingly is very interested in the program. Considering all the minuses at the current moment I’m curious as to his reasoning for putting the Hoyas at the top of his list. If you think that’s being negative or an attempt to push him away, I’m sorry that’s on you. Too bad I won’t be able to here back from you as you said you are done.
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Post by IDenj on Mar 15, 2020 14:45:06 GMT -5
Good. So if he is reading this then he is more than welcome in explaining his thought process. As a huge fan of this program I’d love to see him land at the Hilltop. And maybe his connection is so strong with the staff he feels there is no other place for him. But if he’s as talented as he we are led to believe landing in a great basketball program won’t be difficult. Considering we are bringing up the rear in the BE, haven’t really put anyone in the NBA in many years, just lost 4 players mid season under dubious conditions and will be graduating our top F and top G with little known talent behind them, I’m curious what attracts him to this situation. More loser speak...it's odd that so many people claim to be fans, yet question why a recruit would be interested in the program they claim to love. Pat has not delivered on making the program a top level one. I believe Pat can do that but until then the Hoyas are still the last place program in the BE. But if the reality of the situation seems to be too much to fathom I suggest you stop being a fan.
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Post by IDenj on Mar 15, 2020 14:46:14 GMT -5
Good. So if he is reading this then he is more than welcome in explaining his thought process. As a huge fan of this program I’d love to see him land at the Hilltop. And maybe his connection is so strong with the staff he feels there is no other place for him. But if he’s as talented as he we are led to believe landing in a great basketball program won’t be difficult. Considering we are bringing up the rear in the BE, haven’t really put anyone in the NBA in many years, just lost 4 players mid season under dubious conditions and will be graduating our top F and top G with little known talent behind them, I’m curious what attracts him to this situation. You're basically working on behalf of all the other teams. Makes their job easy when you are doing it for them. 🤦♂️
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 15, 2020 14:50:19 GMT -5
Would be awesome to land Collins and Mutombo for ‘21. That would change the trajectory.
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Post by bicentennial on Mar 15, 2020 16:21:41 GMT -5
Good. So if he is reading this then he is more than welcome in explaining his thought process. As a huge fan of this program I’d love to see him land at the Hilltop. And maybe his connection is so strong with the staff he feels there is no other place for him. But if he’s as talented as he we are led to believe landing in a great basketball program won’t be difficult. Considering we are bringing up the rear in the BE, haven’t really put anyone in the NBA in many years, just lost 4 players mid season under dubious conditions and will be graduating our top F and top G with little known talent behind them, I’m curious what attracts him to this situation. You're basically working on behalf of all the other teams. Makes their job easy when you are doing it for them. I agree that someone posting negative statements like this is not a fan of the program. I often wonder if they are a staff member for a rival Big East team. We live in a world where negative advertising is used for many purposes, not just during the election cycle. One of the many problems with boards like this one is that the identity of the poster cannot be ascertained and can negatively influence recruits.
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