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Post by hoyajmw on Mar 5, 2020 19:00:50 GMT -5
I'm just back from Lauinger Library/Special Collections and a long-gestating project is now coming to fruition. Specifically, 27 seminal games from the 1970s/Thompson era are now available for viewing. The games are almost all shot from about 50 feet up/half court (seem to be filmed by the Athletic Department) and all are silent, somewhat grainy and most in black and white (didn't remember going to school during World War I, but apparently...). The games generally are ALL action, and are edited into 3 to 5 10-12 minute tranches of game action AND the occasional pregame/post game revelry. Games include the very first JT Jr. game (at McDonough, a win over St. Francis); the win over WVA in the ECAC final in '75, sending the Hoyas to the NCAA (Derrick Jackson's jumper for the win with 1 second left a thing of beauty -- still); the "Worst Call in the History of the NCAA tournament" game that same year (Jonathon Smith called for an offensive on a jumper against Central Michigan on a last second shot in a tie game, which somehow resulted in free throws the other way for the loss); the win over Detroit 83-82 in McDonough in '78 (which trust me was a BIG deal at the time); the "Esherick Shot" game (in which Esherick hit a 40 footer to tie GW at the buzzer, and we won 79-78 in OT -- and now I know the shot was every inch of 40 feet in reality not just memory); the win over Syracuse at Cole Field House in '79 to claim the title of Beast of the East and advance to the NCAAs in the last year of the ECAC North/South process; the first Big East Tournament Championship game in '80 (another win over Syracuse); and the famed Iowa '80 regional final (where Big Sky STILL gets his hand caught in the net coming over for the block on the baseline lay-up, resulting in the crushing three point play/loss). Another 10 games from the era may also be available soon (they appear to have just been misplaced). I compiled the list of games myself from the archive of film to digitize, and with the VERY notable exception of the Manley game, I think every game of consequence from the JT Jr. 1972-1980 period should be available (assuming the added ten are found).
Currently, the only way to view these is by physically going to 5th floor Lauinger/special collections room and watching them in the reading/viewing room there after signing in for access with the front desk. (I believe there are rights issues that the University thinks need to be resolved). I am hoping to convince the University to allow on-line access or at least create a kiosk or highlight film as part of the Thompson Athletic Center Lobby. The great moments and the surrounding Hoya Hoopla on these are goose-bump inducing (e.g. Pearl Bailey singing the National Anthem at McDonough before the final home game in '78, and waving blue and gray pom-poms around; JT Jr. collecting congrats from everyone following the St. Francis first game win; his fist pumping sideline exulation down the sideline after the Detroit win; the hand-painted bedsheet sign at the '79 Cole Field House game that said 'Hoyas Fever: Catch it!") I doubt anyone has seen this footage for several decades, if ever, and can't imagine any reason why the Athletic Department shouldn't JUMP at the chance to use it as part of a reminder of the Thompson legacy. But until they do, if you are local, there is no reason to wait!!!!!
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 5, 2020 19:22:08 GMT -5
I'm just back from Lauinger Library/Special Collections and a long-gestating project is now coming to fruition. Specifically, 27 seminal games from the 1970s/Thompson era are now available for viewing. The games are almost all shot from about 50 feet up/half court (seem to be filmed by the Athletic Department) and all are silent, somewhat grainy and most in black and white (didn't remember going to school during World War I, but apparently...). The games generally are ALL action, and are edited into 3 to 5 10-12 minute tranches of game action AND the occasional pregame/post game revelry. Games include the very first JT Jr. game (at McDonough, a win over St. Francis); the win over WVA in the ECAC final in '75, sending the Hoyas to the NCAA (Derrick Jackson's jumper for the win with 1 second left a thing of beauty -- still); the "Worst Call in the History of the NCAA tournament" game that same year (Jonathon Smith called for an offensive on a jumper against Central Michigan on a last second shot in a tie game, which somehow resulted in free throws the other way for the loss); the win over Detroit 83-82 in McDonough in '78 (which trust me was a BIG deal at the time); the "Esherick Shot" game (in which Esherick hit a 40 footer to tie GW at the buzzer, and we won 79-78 in OT -- and now I know the shot was every inch of 40 feet in reality not just memory); the win over Syracuse at Cole Field House in '79 to claim the title of Beast of the East and advance to the NCAAs in the last year of the ECAC North/South process; the first Big East Tournament Championship game in '80 (another win over Syracuse); and the famed Iowa '80 regional final (where Big Sky STILL gets his hand caught in the net coming over for the block on the baseline lay-up, resulting in the crushing three point play/loss). Another 10 games from the era may also be available soon (they appear to have just been misplaced). I compiled the list of games myself from the archive of film to digitize, and with the VERY notable exception of the Manley game, I think every game of consequence from the JT Jr. 1972-1980 period should be available (assuming the added ten are found). Currently, the only way to view these is by physically going to 5th floor Lauinger/special collections room and watching them in the reading/viewing room there after signing in for access with the front desk. (I believe there are rights issues that the University thinks need to be resolved). I am hoping to convince the University to allow on-line access or at least create a kiosk or highlight film as part of the Thompson Athletic Center Lobby. The great moments and the surrounding Hoya Hoopla on these are goose-bump inducing (e.g. Pearl Bailey singing the National Anthem at McDonough before the final home game in '78, and waving blue and gray pom-poms around; JT Jr. collecting congrats from everyone following the St. Francis first game win; his fist pumping sideline exulation down the sideline after the Detroit win; the hand-painted bedsheet sign at the '79 Cole Field House game that said 'Hoyas Fever: Catch it!") I doubt anyone has seen this footage for several decades, if ever, and can't imagine any reason why the Athletic Department shouldn't JUMP at the chance to use it as part of a reminder of the Thompson legacy. But until they do, if you are local, there is no reason to wait!!!!! Thanks for this. I was at all those games including the Cole Field House game.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 5, 2020 20:00:31 GMT -5
Thanks for this important news. It's hard to explain to people under 40 how rare any game film from that era, pro or college, still exists. Absent a home recording system (all but unheard of prior to the Betamax in 1981), any films that exist were either recorded were recorded by a TV station and lost in a warehouse, or as coaching game film from the University, which I suspect are in this collection as well.
Georgetown missed a great opportunity to honor the 1979-80 team this year. This was Georgetown's first Big East team and one of its most consequential. It would have been entirely appopriate to honor these men, some now in the early 60's, while they are able to enjoy it and while coach Thompson could be a part of it. Similarly, the 50th anniversary of the 1970 NIT team passed without recognition at a home game as well. The cynic might argue that if the basketball office isn't interested, it doesn't happen, but these anniversaries are just that--a time to honor those that came before us. In some small way, I trust that these videos do just that.
Now, if someone has a cassette tape of Rich Chvotkin's call of the WVU game in 1975, we've really got something for the ages.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 5, 2020 20:11:19 GMT -5
Can’t the footage be colorized? 😉
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Post by HoyaChris on Mar 5, 2020 21:38:05 GMT -5
I'm just back from Lauinger Library/Special Collections and a long-gestating project is now coming to fruition. Specifically, 27 seminal games from the 1970s/Thompson era are now available for viewing. The games are almost all shot from about 50 feet up/half court (seem to be filmed by the Athletic Department) and all are silent, somewhat grainy and most in black and white (didn't remember going to school during World War I, but apparently...). The games generally are ALL action, and are edited into 3 to 5 10-12 minute tranches of game action AND the occasional pregame/post game revelry. Games include the very first JT Jr. game (at McDonough, a win over St. Francis); the win over WVA in the ECAC final in '75, sending the Hoyas to the NCAA (Derrick Jackson's jumper for the win with 1 second left a thing of beauty -- still); the "Worst Call in the History of the NCAA tournament" game that same year (Jonathon Smith called for an offensive on a jumper against Central Michigan on a last second shot in a tie game, which somehow resulted in free throws the other way for the loss); the win over Detroit 83-82 in McDonough in '78 (which trust me was a BIG deal at the time); the "Esherick Shot" game (in which Esherick hit a 40 footer to tie GW at the buzzer, and we won 79-78 in OT -- and now I know the shot was every inch of 40 feet in reality not just memory); the win over Syracuse at Cole Field House in '79 to claim the title of Beast of the East and advance to the NCAAs in the last year of the ECAC North/South process; the first Big East Tournament Championship game in '80 (another win over Syracuse); and the famed Iowa '80 regional final (where Big Sky STILL gets his hand caught in the net coming over for the block on the baseline lay-up, resulting in the crushing three point play/loss). Another 10 games from the era may also be available soon (they appear to have just been misplaced). I compiled the list of games myself from the archive of film to digitize, and with the VERY notable exception of the Manley game, I think every game of consequence from the JT Jr. 1972-1980 period should be available (assuming the added ten are found). Currently, the only way to view these is by physically going to 5th floor Lauinger/special collections room and watching them in the reading/viewing room there after signing in for access with the front desk. (I believe there are rights issues that the University thinks need to be resolved). I am hoping to convince the University to allow on-line access or at least create a kiosk or highlight film as part of the Thompson Athletic Center Lobby. The great moments and the surrounding Hoya Hoopla on these are goose-bump inducing (e.g. Pearl Bailey singing the National Anthem at McDonough before the final home game in '78, and waving blue and gray pom-poms around; JT Jr. collecting congrats from everyone following the St. Francis first game win; his fist pumping sideline exulation down the sideline after the Detroit win; the hand-painted bedsheet sign at the '79 Cole Field House game that said 'Hoyas Fever: Catch it!") I doubt anyone has seen this footage for several decades, if ever, and can't imagine any reason why the Athletic Department shouldn't JUMP at the chance to use it as part of a reminder of the Thompson legacy. But until they do, if you are local, there is no reason to wait!!!!! My first three of several hundred questions. 1.) Would the Derrick Jackson game winner against West Virginia be a 3 point shot today? 2.) Any idea what the ref was thinking on Jon Smith's offensive vs. Central Michigan? 3.) Is the 75-76 game at McDonough against St Johns in the collection - the freshman Al Dutch goes for 27 game?
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 5, 2020 22:02:35 GMT -5
I'm just back from Lauinger Library/Special Collections and a long-gestating project is now coming to fruition. Specifically, 27 seminal games from the 1970s/Thompson era are now available for viewing. The games are almost all shot from about 50 feet up/half court (seem to be filmed by the Athletic Department) and all are silent, somewhat grainy and most in black and white (didn't remember going to school during World War I, but apparently...). The games generally are ALL action, and are edited into 3 to 5 10-12 minute tranches of game action AND the occasional pregame/post game revelry. Games include the very first JT Jr. game (at McDonough, a win over St. Francis); the win over WVA in the ECAC final in '75, sending the Hoyas to the NCAA (Derrick Jackson's jumper for the win with 1 second left a thing of beauty -- still); the "Worst Call in the History of the NCAA tournament" game that same year (Jonathon Smith called for an offensive on a jumper against Central Michigan on a last second shot in a tie game, which somehow resulted in free throws the other way for the loss); the win over Detroit 83-82 in McDonough in '78 (which trust me was a BIG deal at the time); the "Esherick Shot" game (in which Esherick hit a 40 footer to tie GW at the buzzer, and we won 79-78 in OT -- and now I know the shot was every inch of 40 feet in reality not just memory); the win over Syracuse at Cole Field House in '79 to claim the title of Beast of the East and advance to the NCAAs in the last year of the ECAC North/South process; the first Big East Tournament Championship game in '80 (another win over Syracuse); and the famed Iowa '80 regional final (where Big Sky STILL gets his hand caught in the net coming over for the block on the baseline lay-up, resulting in the crushing three point play/loss). Another 10 games from the era may also be available soon (they appear to have just been misplaced). I compiled the list of games myself from the archive of film to digitize, and with the VERY notable exception of the Manley game, I think every game of consequence from the JT Jr. 1972-1980 period should be available (assuming the added ten are found). Currently, the only way to view these is by physically going to 5th floor Lauinger/special collections room and watching them in the reading/viewing room there after signing in for access with the front desk. (I believe there are rights issues that the University thinks need to be resolved). I am hoping to convince the University to allow on-line access or at least create a kiosk or highlight film as part of the Thompson Athletic Center Lobby. The great moments and the surrounding Hoya Hoopla on these are goose-bump inducing (e.g. Pearl Bailey singing the National Anthem at McDonough before the final home game in '78, and waving blue and gray pom-poms around; JT Jr. collecting congrats from everyone following the St. Francis first game win; his fist pumping sideline exulation down the sideline after the Detroit win; the hand-painted bedsheet sign at the '79 Cole Field House game that said 'Hoyas Fever: Catch it!") I doubt anyone has seen this footage for several decades, if ever, and can't imagine any reason why the Athletic Department shouldn't JUMP at the chance to use it as part of a reminder of the Thompson legacy. But until they do, if you are local, there is no reason to wait!!!!! Awesome news. If you look at the scorer’s table for the home games from 77-78 you’ll see a way younger me. Esherick’s shot happened pretty much in front of me (I sat at the end next to the Hoya bench).
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Post by wisconsinhoya on Mar 5, 2020 22:18:50 GMT -5
Thanks for this important news. It's hard to explain to people under 40 how rare any game film from that era, pro or college, still exists. Absent a home recording system (all but unheard of prior to the Betamax in 1981), any films that exist were either recorded were recorded by a TV station and lost in a warehouse, or as coaching game film from the University, which I suspect are in this collection as well. Georgetown missed a great opportunity to honor the 1979-80 team this year. This was Georgetown's first Big East team and one of its most consequential. It would have been entirely appopriate to honor these men, some now in the early 60's, while they are able to enjoy it and while coach Thompson could be a part of it. Similarly, the 50th anniversary of the 1970 NIT team passed without recognition at a home game as well. The cynic might argue that if the basketball office isn't interested, it doesn't happen, but these anniversaries are just that--a time to honor those that came before us. In some small way, I trust that these videos do just that. Now, if someone has a cassette tape of Rich Chvotkin's call of the WVU game in 1975, we've really got something for the ages. Your post brings up a question I have wondered for years. Who is in charge of putting together events to honor great teams or great Hoyas. My very first trip ever to Georgetown was in 2007 for the 100th anniversary celebration. I got to personally meet a number of my hero's from my youth. It was a fantastic weekend and a couple times a year I still plug in the DVD from that evening. Likewise, I was lucky enough to fly out to DC for a 2nd time in my life in 2009 to honor the 1984 National Title team. While that season was coming off the rails at that time, it was a night I'll always remember meeting so many of the 1984 national champions. Heck I remember Chris Wright being at that event just because he wanted to learn something about our special history. I don't see a downside to recognizing our history, especially considering how depressing the current state of the program is. With home attendance being what it is, wouldn't you think having an alumni weekend once a season would generate some juice and also be a reason to attend a home game?
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 6, 2020 6:36:48 GMT -5
I don't see a downside to recognizing our history, especially considering how depressing the current state of the program is. With home attendance being what it is, wouldn't you think having an alumni weekend once a season would generate some juice and also be a reason to attend a home game?
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wisconsinhoya, the Class of '77 has an "Alumni Takeover" game every year. It's Villanova this year with postgame party at the Irish Channel Pub at 500 H Street, NW, 2 blocks from Cap One. We procure a block of tickets for the class members who don't otherwise have tickets and members of the class of '76 and '78 are also invited to the party. I believe it is organized through the GU Office of Advancement Alumni Affairs and our class reps.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 6, 2020 6:49:03 GMT -5
Events are nice and should be contemplated, but the only thing that’s going to move the needle on attendance is winning. Also, these videos need to make their way to a public viewable forum like YouTube. .
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Post by hoyajmw on Mar 6, 2020 9:15:04 GMT -5
All -- Just fyi, below is the list of games that either already are or hopefully will shortly be available at Lauinger -- basically the lists I put together for digital conversion compiled from the spottily indexed list of games contained in archived boxes that were discovered. It seems that virtually ALL games from the JT Jr. 72-80 era are in those boxes (again, Manley game excepted for some reason), and if it turns out there are other games from that time that are worthy of converting, it may be possible to have that done. Nice stroll down memory lane in any case.
Original list St. Francis 1972-73 JT’s first game/win as head coach Central Michigan, 1974-75 The first NCAA tournament game under JT; worst foul call EVER on Jonathon Smith results in 77-75 loss West Virginia 1974-75 The ECAC championship game which vaulted Hoyas to NCAA tournament for first time since 1943; Hoya Derrick Jackson with legendary jumper at buzzer to win game over WVU 62-61. St. John’s 2/04/1976 Hoyas beat nationally ranked Redmen in OT in McDonough Holy Cross 2/25/1978 Last home game of 77-78 season; Hoyas crush Crusaders on regional TV (a big deal back then) to complete undefeated home season. Famed singer/Hoya fan Pearl Bailey in attendance Holy Cross 12/--/1977 First meeting against the Crusaders that year in Madison Square Garden Holiday Festival. Hoyas beat No. 9 ranked Cross badly on their way to Holiday Festival championship. First big Garden win by JT University of Virginia 1977-78 Epic opening game of NIT, which Hoyas win in OT Manhattan 02/--/1978 Hoyas come back from down 22 with 12 ½ minutes left to beat Jaspers at Madison Square Garden (a game helping giving rise to term “Heart Attack Hoyas”) Detroit 1977-78 Best game ever played in McDonough/JT’s 100th win/Hoyas beat loaded Detroit team/top 15 country, which had a nationwide longest 14 game winning streak/storming back from 5 down with 1 minute left to win 83-82 George Washington University 1977-78 Legendary shot by Craig Esherick from 40 feet ties GW at buzzer/Hoyas win 79-78 in OT over then our biggest rival. Esh’s shot THE greatest single moment in McDonough history… Maryland 1978-79 Hoyas beat MD at Capital Center/first win over Twerps by JT as freshman Sleepy Floyd/future Hoya great/all time leading scorer scores 28 Syracuse 03/03/1979 Hoyas beat SUcks at Cole Field House to qualify for NCAA tournament/I think JT’s first win over SUcks (of many to follow). Maryland 12/05/79 Hoyas beat Twerps again, in DC Armory, in game where words exchanged between JT and Lefty Driesell at half-time, leading to decades long feud between schools/ends regular season games. Boston College 1979-80 Hoyas comeback from 8 down/1:20 left to stun Eagles at BC, incl. a three point play at the buzzer (pre-3 point shot, so a big deal) to force OT. Painful note upon reviewing the video: The regulation time video tranche ENDS after the Eagles take a 3 point lead with about two seconds left and fans/mascot storm the court/have to be shoo'ed off by refs and cops. The Frazier incredible finish after long in bounds not captured. But it was fabulous, I can tell you that (was at Roberts Center for it). Syracuse 03/01/1980 The Big East Tournament final victory in very first Big East Tourney (in Providence), 87-81. Hoyas finish season with ONE conference loss (only UCONN in '96 -- albeit much bigger conf. schedule -- has done likewise) Iowa 03/16/1980 NCAA tourney Final 8 game in Philly that ends badly but was one of the most well-played games ever Maryland 03/14/1980 Hoyas beat Twerps for second time in the 79-80 season in NCAA round of 16 in Philly (the win leading to Iowa game, above).
Supplemental list later provided (when it was apparent conversion could be done for more than originally thought) Starting with Holy Cross through Louisville, games not yet available; may have just been misplaced. ECAC, George Washington University 03/07/1975 ECAC semi-final; Hoyas win 66-59 to set up epic win over WVA (which is on original list above) Arizona 03/13/1976 NCAA opening round game/JT’s second tourney appearance; Hoyas lose 83-76 Old Dominion University 03/02/1977 ECAC semi-final game/painful 80-58 loss at McDonough; Monarchs Ronnie Valentine with 24 in the first half Alabama 12/--/1977 Holiday Festival Final at Madison Square Garden; Hoyas win 83-73 Virginia Commonwealth 03/01/1978 ECAC semi-final; Hoyas lose badly 88-75 at GW’s Smith Center; freakin' Danny Kotak lights us up.. North Carolina State 03/--/1978 NIT semi-final; Hoyas lose 86-85 in OT on 35 foot buzzer beater by Clyde "The Glide" Austin after epic comeback lead by the Craigs (Esherick and Shelton) St. John’s 1978-79 Hoyas win regular season game 77-71 at McDonough Indiana 1978-79 Hoyas beat Hoosiers at Cap Centre 60-54 Rutgers 1978-79 Opening round NCAAs; Hoyas lose 64-58. James "No Relation to Pearl" Bailey hard to handle... Penn 01/20/1979 Hoyas beat NCAA final four bound Quakers 78-76 at historic Palestra, even though Big Sky fouled out with 7 minutes to play Holy Cross 02/24/1979 Hoyas win 63-54 in 2OT at McDonough Houston 1979-1980 An omen: Hoyas beat future NCAA championship game victim, 78-75, to win Nike Cage Classic in Albuquerque, NM Connecticut 02/02/1980 Hoyas beat Big East foe 84-74 at McDonough in first Big East season St. John’s 02/29/1980 First Big East Tournament/semi-final win by Hoyas 76-66 in Providence Iona 03/09/1980 NCAA opening round/first NCAA win by JT; Hoyas win 74-71 also in Providence St. John’s 01/19/1980 Hoyas lose 71-69 at McDonough in first Big East game vs. the Johnnies Providence 12/18/1979 First Hoya Big East game ever; JT beats his alma mater as Hoyas win 55-50 at McDonough Seton Hall 02/28/80 First Hoya Big East Tournament game ever: Hoyas win quarter-final 60-47 in Providence University of Nevada Las Vegas 12/19/1981 Hoyas win 69-68 at Capital Centre/first season playing there regularly Louisville Undated Not sure, but think this is the epic NCAA semi-final win by Hoyas 50-46 in New Orleans Final Four (advancing to play UNC in final).
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 6, 2020 10:55:47 GMT -5
This is great, I hope someday these find their way to YouTube or a similar forum. I know that there are a few Hoyas fans who have a ton of games on tape. Is there any chance that as fans we could create something like uconnhuskygames.com? It would be so great to have an archive of games like they do.
Of course, I realize converting 30+ games a season from VHS tapes to digital media would not come cheaply, but I wonder if HoyaTalk could form a GoFundMe type of thing to get this going. I know it's unlikely, but it would be a super cool resource for us to have as fans.
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Mar 6, 2020 13:59:54 GMT -5
Pearl Bailey was a student, albeit a late in life one, at that time.
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 6, 2020 15:10:48 GMT -5
Pearl Bailey was a student, albeit a late in life one, at that time. Theology major. One of the highlights of my pep band career was when her husband, famed jazz drummer Louis Bellson sat in with the pep band playing our rendition of Woody Herman's "Woodchopper's Ball." She was also the commencement speaker for the Class of '77.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 6, 2020 15:14:11 GMT -5
The 12/19/81 game vs Vegas is one I attended but barely saw as the Giants were beating the Cowboys in OT on the TV’s in the concourse for the Giants first trip back to the playoffs. Joe Danelo in OT for the win.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 8, 2020 12:51:50 GMT -5
Spoke with hoyajmw yesterday at halftime. The amount of work he has devoted to this and the plans he has for making this a real resource for Hoya fans is astounding and worthy of recognition and thanks. I can't wait to take advantage of it.
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Post by hoyajmw on Mar 8, 2020 17:28:11 GMT -5
Thanks, Dan -- truly the very definition of "my pleasure"! And several friends (well, I think ALL of them) will tell you it is far and away the most productive thing I've done in years... And I did get a chance to talk to Lee Reed at the game, who is VERY supportive of the idea of wider availability/highlight video sort of thing, and has the right perspective on any "rights" issues that may need to be dealt with, so I'm sure a schelp to Lauinger will NOT forever be the access path (but appropriately Lee is focused for now on the on-going season; we'll have time in April and beyond to work this). Also on the FYI front, I know the last ten games listed above have NOT actually been converted yet (sorry, Elvado!) but they are looking into doing it/I have offered any "assistance" they may need on that effort too. And let me just put out a general ask to folks: if there are memorable moments from those games (such as particularly spectacular plays) that may not be immediately obvious, let me know and I will try to hone in on them/put them on the index I'm compiling. Ditto any complete GAMES from that era that aren't included and I can see about locating/converting them ( I just relied on my own memory and that of a couple classmates in putting together the initial lists).
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Post by Elvado on Mar 9, 2020 7:11:56 GMT -5
Probably already available but Missouri ‘82 with McGuire’s comments about the fire marshall is a classic
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Post by hoyajmw on Mar 9, 2020 11:58:34 GMT -5
Excellent suggestion, Elvado! And the good news is the game is listed in the archives as having been filmed/still there and I have added it to the list of "please digitize." It almost for sure will NOT be the actual broadcast with McGuire's famed line, but that will be an endless loop in our heads when we watch the game I'm sure (It may be available elsewhere too, but it does fall in that gray area of early 80s/before VCRs etc. allowed games to be taped and then converted later to DVD etc.) I had stopped at '80 in my initial requesting (with the exception of the 82 Louisville NCAA semi), as there were a few links seeming to indicate this game was available and CBS had made the Carolina final available already on DVD-- but I just checked the "videos" link on HoyaTalk and though parts of Missouri once were there nothing pulls up now.
EVENING UPDATE: The library says they believe the Missouri game is offsite on VHS tape, and have ordered it brought to Lauinger by Wednesday March 18 for me to confirm it is what we think. AND they think they should be able to convert it in-house/in the library to digital form (unlike old film, which have to go to an outside vendor), so knock-wood the game may well be available for viewing before too long (at the library at least...)
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Mar 10, 2020 6:28:39 GMT -5
Sadly, this amazing work may be all we have left. Memories of a fading program.
[cue sad trumpet wah wah wah waaaahs]
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 10, 2020 6:44:01 GMT -5
I guess there’s no recent footage of tournament games we didn’t play. 😉
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