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Post by joey0403p on Feb 26, 2020 23:54:04 GMT -5
If future fully manned teams can keep up this effort level, the sky is the limit. Anyone posting negatives about this game and this team needs to take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror. I think as fans sometimes we dive into the micro and ignore the macro -- even before the game, the in studio guys were talking about how hard the team was playing but how it looked like we were running out of gas because of all the forced minutes AND lack of two highest scorers. Sometimes it's easier to see the obvious from a bit more distance. I still think we have a chance to win a game before it's lights out, but we will need a good helping of luck and some career games from guys with lots of mileage on the tires. But I totally agree -- this level of effort with a more fully filled out team (say, LeBlanc and Gardner on this squad), and we'd be talking in much different terms today. I hope the staff can pull a few recruiting coups, although our last two pulls seem to be really good gets. Need some flat-out shooters, or to develop some. Ewing & Co have changed the culture significantly in terms of playing with heart and effort. Agree here. I mean I’m exhausted. And annoyed. Want to yell about refs, and the 3PA (why didn’t we take enough....) But yea. Guys are trying. We don’t really have creators...we need Mac (and he isn’t perfect either btw). But Allen, Blair, Mosely, Pickett. They are somewhere between a second option to really solid complimentary pieces. We are asking them to do ALOT and play 40 mins. It’s understandable. They are trying. And I hate Quette. Hate them
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Post by rhw485 on Feb 27, 2020 7:30:02 GMT -5
Appreciate the individuals on the court repping the team for giving it their all, no debate about that on this board
• Marquette actively tried to ice every ball screen and force it to the baseline and let their big stay back. Are Yurt7 and John really that different physically? It accomplished exactly what you want. The first 10 minutes we were reduced to Allen going one-on-one, Pickett post ups etc. We shot zero threes because nobody had to help off shooters to contain the pick and roll.
• I actually thought our half court defense was ok for the first 5 minutes. It was transition defense off live ball turnovers (and Allen slipping / fouling Howard for 4pt play). Then we switched to a 3-2 zone for two possessions (which didn’t make sense without two centers on court imo), tried a little 2-3 zone which didn’t work either and then lost control a little bit.
• The biggest 1st half offensive adjustment Ewing made was having Mosely be primary ballhandler. He was the only one strong enough and explosive enough to fight over to get to the screen or to attack the big and drive. Helped keep us close until half
• It really almost felt like Marquette was toying with us and trying different things out just to get balance. But when the game got close-ish (10 pts) in 2nd half, Howard took over. Hits a 3 right in Blair’s face without having to take a dribble. Draws 3 fts from Mosely. Then splits the hard hedge and hits a shooter in corner for open 3. And suddenly it’s 20 points and it’s over
• I’m not going to get too worked up over the timeout 2 min in. I understand what Ewing was trying to do, but the fact that he basically does it every game limits its effectiveness imo. Would trust senior players to maintain composure and re-focus but not what decided this game
• I’ve long been of the view that the press is not a long-term viable weapon, but once you’re down 15-20 you don’t have much to lose. Sure maybe you realize it’s not going to win it back and you retreat and try to focus on half court defense. But I can’t really blame him for not conceding. My bigger pet peeve was he probably should’ve called it off w 2 min left in 1st half when Marquette called timeout. You know they spent the whole timeout prepping for it, then they come down and break it for a dunk and 3 right before half. You had gotten the game back to manageable, stayed with it just a bit too long
• Howard being upcourt against our press was interesting. They struggled a little breaking it without him there but once they broke it, it was in his hands which was deadly. Probably a smart adjustment from Woj
• I’m somewhat concerned with Tim I. in this defensive scheme. Physically strong and has straight line speed, but lacks the mobility to hard hedge and we’re going to keep asking him to do it. Will maybe play a little faster over time once mental aspect catches up but I think it’s a physical limitation that won’t be solved for
And now I’ve written 500 words on a game I promised not to get too worked up over after Yurt7 was out. Just can’t quit them but it’s not going to end well
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Post by aleutianhoya on Feb 27, 2020 7:36:41 GMT -5
Appreciate the individuals on the court repping the team for giving it their all, no debate about that on this board • Marquette actively tried to ice every ball screen and force it to the baseline and let their big stay back. Are Yurt7 and John really that different physically? It accomplished exactly what you want. The first 10 minutes we were reduced to Allen going one-on-one, Pickett post ups etc. We shot zero threes because nobody had to help off shooters to contain the pick and roll. They did ice a lot but they also atually hard hedged a bit too. They simply switched most every screen that didn't involve a 5. More than anything that limited our ability to drive, draw, and dish. My criticism of our PNR D us that we haven't really adjusted at all for our own personnel or the other team's strengths. I don't think we have really improved in that area....
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Post by bostonfan on Feb 27, 2020 7:38:22 GMT -5
For the first time all season, the Hoyas looked like a team that was trying to play without it's four best players, that everyone thought they would be relying on before the season started. I realize Akinjo was not buying into the program and it sounds like Josh was also having some issues within the team, but I don't think there are any teams in the country that would effectively overcome those losses in personnel. The guys have scraped and fought and did the best they could since the transfers, but it looks like not having those 2 guys, and now losing your two best offensive weapons, has caught up with them. The guys are trying to do things that are not really their strengths and other teams are taking advantage.
I am not trying to place blame, but the team is just undermanned now. I salute the effort, but at this level you need more than just great effort.
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Post by rhw485 on Feb 27, 2020 7:55:04 GMT -5
Appreciate the individuals on the court repping the team for giving it their all, no debate about that on this board • Marquette actively tried to ice every ball screen and force it to the baseline and let their big stay back. Are Yurt7 and John really that different physically? It accomplished exactly what you want. The first 10 minutes we were reduced to Allen going one-on-one, Pickett post ups etc. We shot zero threes because nobody had to help off shooters to contain the pick and roll. They did ice a lot but they also atually hard hedged a bit too. They simply switched most every screen that didn't involve a 5. More than anything that limited our ability to drive, draw, and dish. My criticism of our PNR D us that we haven't really adjusted at all for our own personnel or the other team's strengths. I don't think we have really improved in that area.... Sorry yes agree. They generally switched 1-4 (wouldn't even call it hard hedge and just true switch) but iced 1-5 screens (I didn't see any hard hedges from their 5 will have to double check). Really like that approach as a baseline and it plays to their teams strength. 1-4 they're ok w their perimeter defense and it lets John stay home. I really think physically our lineup isn't much different
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Post by daveg023 on Feb 27, 2020 8:02:32 GMT -5
The undermanned comments are fair and the crux of the issues. The two things that concern me continually about this team are the defensive game plan and 3 point shooting.
Arguably Mac and Yurt are two of our weaker defenders so the defense being so abysmal can’t really be blamed on their absence other than the lack of bodies we have to go around (and that would be more evident in the second half as fatigue and/or foul trouble has set in). I’d consider Mosley and Allen plus defenders, while Pickett at a minimum is an average defender. So why do teams continually torch us? The fact we’ve been the lowest rated defensive team all 3 years of Ewing’s tenure is alarming. You can’t tell me that Providence or Butler has better athletes and thus can play better defense. And this has been a problem before the roster was thin.
On the offensive side of the ball, as many have mentioned already, our lack of shooting and running offense to free up shooters is really concerning. I know we have few shooters (though that’s on the staff for recruiting three centers and slashing forwards over shooters), but we never run any sets with the goal of getting guys open. When we were playing our best (Ok St, SMU, Syracuse) we had great ball movement, skip passes, played inside out, etc to get shots. I think we made over 10 3s in each of those games. The 3 point shot is the foundation of modern basketball. Look how Villanova has exploited it. Watch an NBA game. Also, once the tournament starts next month, watch how undermanned Cinderellas use this as the ultimate equalizer. I just don’t get how our coach continually has a blind spot for this and thinks it’s good offense for us to take as many tough twos or post ups as we do. And sadly I don’t see this improving as next year’s crop of recruits is hardly a bunch of snipers (if we are clinging to a 5’9” 3* PG as our hope to improve shooting, that says a lot).
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Post by rhw485 on Feb 27, 2020 8:35:53 GMT -5
The undermanned comments are fair and the crux of the issues. The two things that concern me continually about this team are the defensive game plan and 3 point shooting. Arguably Mac and Yurt are two of our weaker defenders so the defense being so abysmal can’t really be blamed on their absence other than the lack of bodies we have to go around (and that would be more evident in the second half as fatigue and/or foul trouble has set in). I’d consider Mosley and Allen plus defenders, while Pickett at a minimum is an average defender. So why do teams continually torch us? The fact we’ve been the lowest rated defensive team all 3 years of Ewing’s tenure is alarming. You can’t tell me that Providence or Butler has better athletes and thus can play better defense. And this has been a problem before the roster was thin. On the offensive side of the ball, as many have mentioned already, our lack of shooting and running offense to free up shooters is really concerning. I know we have few shooters (though that’s on the staff for recruiting three centers and slashing forwards over shooters), but we never run any sets with the goal of getting guys open. When we were playing our best (Ok St, SMU, Syracuse) we had great ball movement, skip passes, played inside out, etc to get shots. I think we made over 10 3s in each of those games. The 3 point shot is the foundation of modern basketball. Look how Villanova has exploited it. Watch an NBA game. Also, once the tournament starts next month, watch how undermanned Cinderellas use this as the ultimate equalizer. I just don’t get how our coach continually has a blind spot for this and thinks it’s good offense for us to take as many tough twos or post ups as we do. And sadly I don’t see this improving as next year’s crop of recruits is hardly a bunch of snipers (if we are clinging to a 5’9” 3* PG as our hope to improve shooting, that says a lot). On the offensive front, personally I don't think we're running different sets than we were vs. Ok St and SMU. We're running into better defenses that are better prepared. The ball isn't moving because passes aren't open due to not having to help defend the pick and roll. I don't think it's Allen trying to be selfish or anything like that, the passes aren't there, the clock starts winding down, and you have to do something. We hit 9 3s against Marquette in first game with Mac / Yurt7 My thoughts on the defense are pretty clear. Different question: do you think it's easier to improve offense or defense through coaching? My view has always been it's easier to make improvements on defense first. At some point, offense comes down to making shots and individual ability. I thought Ewing installed some good sets in the first couple of years. Year 1 we didn't have a PG. Year 2 was turnovers from inexperienced players but quality looks. Year 3 it's a top 25ish offense as the players are better and more experienced. There's only so many counters to a good defense when you can't break man down off dribble or have a post threat. On defense, I'm not buying its personnel. As you've pointed out, it's tough to really argue we have absolutely terrible individual defenders across the board. It's schematic and game-planning to specific opponents.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Feb 27, 2020 8:36:22 GMT -5
They did ice a lot but they also atually hard hedged a bit too. They simply switched most every screen that didn't involve a 5. More than anything that limited our ability to drive, draw, and dish. My criticism of our PNR D us that we haven't really adjusted at all for our own personnel or the other team's strengths. I don't think we have really improved in that area.... Sorry yes agree. They generally switched 1-4 (wouldn't even call it hard hedge and just true switch) but iced 1-5 screens (I didn't see any hard hedges from their 5 will have to double check). Really like that approach as a baseline and it plays to their teams strength. 1-4 they're ok w their perimeter defense and it lets John stay home. I really think physically our lineup isn't much different Agreed. If you can get away with switching, it's far and away the cleanest and simplest approach. Our best recent teams on D (under III) switched basically all screens all the time. Of course...having a Green and a Porter helps you do that well! What's interesting is that early in the game, we weren't trying a lot of screens with Q. It was all with perimeter guys. That had to be purposeful, since we use our 5s to screen regularly otherwise.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Feb 27, 2020 8:47:06 GMT -5
The undermanned comments are fair and the crux of the issues. The two things that concern me continually about this team are the defensive game plan and 3 point shooting. Arguably Mac and Yurt are two of our weaker defenders so the defense being so abysmal can’t really be blamed on their absence other than the lack of bodies we have to go around (and that would be more evident in the second half as fatigue and/or foul trouble has set in). I’d consider Mosley and Allen plus defenders, while Pickett at a minimum is an average defender. So why do teams continually torch us? The fact we’ve been the lowest rated defensive team all 3 years of Ewing’s tenure is alarming. You can’t tell me that Providence or Butler has better athletes and thus can play better defense. And this has been a problem before the roster was thin. On the offensive side of the ball, as many have mentioned already, our lack of shooting and running offense to free up shooters is really concerning. I know we have few shooters (though that’s on the staff for recruiting three centers and slashing forwards over shooters), but we never run any sets with the goal of getting guys open. When we were playing our best (Ok St, SMU, Syracuse) we had great ball movement, skip passes, played inside out, etc to get shots. I think we made over 10 3s in each of those games. The 3 point shot is the foundation of modern basketball. Look how Villanova has exploited it. Watch an NBA game. Also, once the tournament starts next month, watch how undermanned Cinderellas use this as the ultimate equalizer. I just don’t get how our coach continually has a blind spot for this and thinks it’s good offense for us to take as many tough twos or post ups as we do. And sadly I don’t see this improving as next year’s crop of recruits is hardly a bunch of snipers (if we are clinging to a 5’9” 3* PG as our hope to improve shooting, that says a lot). On the offensive front, personally I don't think we're running different sets than we were vs. Ok St and SMU. We're running into better defenses that are better prepared. The ball isn't moving because passes aren't open due to not having to help defend the pick and roll. I don't think it's Allen trying to be selfish or anything like that, the passes aren't there, the clock starts winding down, and you have to do something. We hit 9 3s against Marquette in first game with Mac / Yurt7 My thoughts on the defense are pretty clear. Different question: do you think it's easier to improve offense or defense through coaching? My view has always been it's easier to make improvements on defense first. At some point, offense comes down to making shots and individual ability. I thought Ewing installed some good sets in the first couple of years. Year 1 we didn't have a PG. Year 2 was turnovers from inexperienced players but quality looks. Year 3 it's a top 25ish offense as the players are better and more experienced. There's only so many counters to a good defense when you can't break man down off dribble or have a post threat. On defense, I'm not buying its personnel. As you've pointed out, it's tough to really argue we have absolutely terrible individual defenders across the board. It's schematic and game-planning to specific opponents. I don't think our sets are different either. Agree completely on that. We did have some off ball action for Blair, but it's well scouted and frankly easy to defend when you don't have to defend anything else. With Yurt in the game, you get good movement by forcing doubles and rotating the ball. You also got good movement several games ago because Allen could penetrate but teams now scheme to take that away. With Mac and Yurt out, it's frighteningly easy to prepare for us, right? Wahab: try to force him to his right shoulder. Otherwise crowd him. Don't double ever. Pickett: just play solid D. Contest threes but don't run him off the line. Jagan: Run him off the line and then attack his drive since he tends to commit to shooting. Blair: Over every screen...make him drive. Allen: lay off a bit to take away the drive. If he drives, make him shoot. He's the guy you focus on in my view. If you can contain his penetration, you likely win, because that's what gets shots for everyone else. It ain't hard...that's the problem. I think it's harder to coach offense well, particularly in circumstances like this. There just aren't options.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 27, 2020 8:54:18 GMT -5
The undermanned comments are fair and the crux of the issues. The two things that concern me continually about this team are the defensive game plan and 3 point shooting. Arguably Mac and Yurt are two of our weaker defenders so the defense being so abysmal can’t really be blamed on their absence other than the lack of bodies we have to go around (and that would be more evident in the second half as fatigue and/or foul trouble has set in). I’d consider Mosley and Allen plus defenders, while Pickett at a minimum is an average defender. So why do teams continually torch us? The fact we’ve been the lowest rated defensive team all 3 years of Ewing’s tenure is alarming. You can’t tell me that Providence or Butler has better athletes and thus can play better defense. And this has been a problem before the roster was thin. On the offensive side of the ball, as many have mentioned already, our lack of shooting and running offense to free up shooters is really concerning. I know we have few shooters (though that’s on the staff for recruiting three centers and slashing forwards over shooters), but we never run any sets with the goal of getting guys open. When we were playing our best (Ok St, SMU, Syracuse) we had great ball movement, skip passes, played inside out, etc to get shots. I think we made over 10 3s in each of those games. The 3 point shot is the foundation of modern basketball. Look how Villanova has exploited it. Watch an NBA game. Also, once the tournament starts next month, watch how undermanned Cinderellas use this as the ultimate equalizer. I just don’t get how our coach continually has a blind spot for this and thinks it’s good offense for us to take as many tough twos or post ups as we do. And sadly I don’t see this improving as next year’s crop of recruits is hardly a bunch of snipers (if we are clinging to a 5’9” 3* PG as our hope to improve shooting, that says a lot). So true. Who would have thought that defense is Pat’s Achilles’ heel. As to 3-pt shooting, it’s unbelievable to watch. With 3 minutes remaining in the first half, we had one 3FGA. We ended up making 47% from 3, buy only attempted 15 again. We cannot win consistently with these two yearly issues under Pat. As to next year, the issue is not a player’s height (btw, all the sites I checked have Dante listed at 5’10”, same as Howard) as last night shows. It’s cojones to shoot the 3, good ball and player movement, a coach committed to having specific plays to set up 3s, and having bigs that pass it out and not just force the shot every time they get the ball. It starts with the coach accepting how important 3-pt shooting; instead he recruits 3 frosh centers (two of which are projects) and more slashers. Pat’s learning curve must be the most expensive in college basketball.
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Post by bostonfan on Feb 27, 2020 9:03:26 GMT -5
On the offensive front, personally I don't think we're running different sets than we were vs. Ok St and SMU. We're running into better defenses that are better prepared. The ball isn't moving because passes aren't open due to not having to help defend the pick and roll. I don't think it's Allen trying to be selfish or anything like that, the passes aren't there, the clock starts winding down, and you have to do something. We hit 9 3s against Marquette in first game with Mac / Yurt7 My thoughts on the defense are pretty clear. Different question: do you think it's easier to improve offense or defense through coaching? My view has always been it's easier to make improvements on defense first. At some point, offense comes down to making shots and individual ability. I thought Ewing installed some good sets in the first couple of years. Year 1 we didn't have a PG. Year 2 was turnovers from inexperienced players but quality looks. Year 3 it's a top 25ish offense as the players are better and more experienced. There's only so many counters to a good defense when you can't break man down off dribble or have a post threat. On defense, I'm not buying its personnel. As you've pointed out, it's tough to really argue we have absolutely terrible individual defenders across the board. It's schematic and game-planning to specific opponents. I don't think our sets are different either. Agree completely on that. We did have some off ball action for Blair, but it's well scouted and frankly easy to defend when you don't have to defend anything else. With Yurt in the game, you get good movement by forcing doubles and rotating the ball. You also got good movement several games ago because Allen could penetrate but teams now scheme to take that away. With Mac and Yurt out, it's frighteningly easy to prepare for us, right? Wahab: try to force him to his right shoulder. Otherwise crowd him. Don't double ever. Pickett: just play solid D. Contest threes but don't run him off the line. Jagan: Run him off the line and then attack his drive since he tends to commit to shooting. Blair: Over every screen...make him drive. Allen: lay off a bit to take away the drive. If he drives, make him shoot. He's the guy you focus on in my view. If you can contain his penetration, you likely win, because that's what gets shots for everyone else. It ain't hard...that's the problem. I think it's harder to coach offense well, particularly in circumstances like this. There just aren't options. I agree, if you don't have the ability to force the defense to adjust and help then it is almost impossible to run stuff that gets open shots. The open shots that Nova and other teams get come from teams helping on penetration and leaving guys on the perimeter open. When Yurt was playing well, teams committed to helping the defenders in the post, or doubling, and that helped when the Hoyas would move the ball and beat the defensive rotations. When Mac is playing well teams know they need to be ready to help when he penetrates because he can score on those drives and that helps open things for his teammates. Allen is trying to do the same thing but that is not really his game. Jagan was actually better getting by his defender last night than I had seen before, Marquette did not really help on those drives and that is why Jagan was able to get to the hoop, but that is not really Jagan's game either. Blair and Jamorko are not really threats to consistently attach the rim off the dribble. Q is playing hard and improving but teams are not going to double him in the post. Options are limited and the Hoyas need to score off turnovers, their press or in transition but that takes a toll on a team that is only really playing 6 guys.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 27, 2020 9:16:03 GMT -5
I think the bigger problem right now is teams are game planing and have figured out Wahab (for this year).
Without his point production and threat of scoring it doesn’t open up the 3 pt shooters for good looks or drives.
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 27, 2020 9:30:58 GMT -5
Really need Yurt7 and/or McClung to have any legit chance to gain some ground.
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Post by rhw485 on Feb 27, 2020 10:21:31 GMT -5
I don't think our sets are different either. Agree completely on that. We did have some off ball action for Blair, but it's well scouted and frankly easy to defend when you don't have to defend anything else. With Yurt in the game, you get good movement by forcing doubles and rotating the ball. You also got good movement several games ago because Allen could penetrate but teams now scheme to take that away. With Mac and Yurt out, it's frighteningly easy to prepare for us, right? Wahab: try to force him to his right shoulder. Otherwise crowd him. Don't double ever. Pickett: just play solid D. Contest threes but don't run him off the line. Jagan: Run him off the line and then attack his drive since he tends to commit to shooting. Blair: Over every screen...make him drive. Allen: lay off a bit to take away the drive. If he drives, make him shoot. He's the guy you focus on in my view. If you can contain his penetration, you likely win, because that's what gets shots for everyone else. It ain't hard...that's the problem. I think it's harder to coach offense well, particularly in circumstances like this. There just aren't options. Agreed. I just can't get over that Ewing is doing the harder part well (offense) and cannot get this defense to minimum competence level. If we don't go back to the drawing board on that end I don't see a way to be optimistic
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Post by prhoya on Feb 27, 2020 10:48:01 GMT -5
At one point last night, FS1 showed a graphic that had the four BE players with the most minutes per game this season. Allen, Blair and Mosely were the top 3. There’s no way those three players can play effectively at that rate. Enter Robinson. Due to Allen’s foul trouble and lack of personnel, Pat had to play him more minutes. The resulting pt distribution was Allen with 31, Mosely and Blair each with 37, and Robinson with 12. Until Mac returns, I would like to see more of this, esp. if Pat is going to press like last night. At least try to keep the starting three to close to 35 mpg.
Robinson had a strip, an offensive rebound, an assist, no TOs, a made 3 on one attempt and another basket in 12 minutes. Overall, he played well, although at one point on defense he was near our big and his assignment was standing outside the arc at least 10 ft away (But, since all of our players do that, I guess that’s how Pat wants all of them to play it).
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Feb 27, 2020 10:53:19 GMT -5
At this point, I agree with the posters who think we should play for the Big East Tournament. Get Mac/Omer 100% healthy. Get them some conditioning in practice and maybe a game or 2. But the only realistic shot we have now is to be full strength in the Bet and spring a tournament upset.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 27, 2020 10:57:12 GMT -5
At this point, I agree with the posters who think we should play for the Big East Tournament. Get Mac/Omer 100% healthy. Get them some conditioning in practice and maybe a game or 2. But the only realistic shot we have now is to be full strength in the Bet and spring a tournament upset. Target Senior Day vs Nova.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Feb 27, 2020 11:11:37 GMT -5
Robinson can definitely provide more minutes. He is solid and isn't playing afraid out there. George seems to get more lost than any of the other bench players when they come in. This is just a really tricky spot to be in. We gotta beat Xavier just because I don't think they are very good and frankly I don't like them.
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Post by vv83 on Feb 27, 2020 11:22:23 GMT -5
I have a hard time seeing us winning another game. The Allen/Mosely/Pickett group is pretty clearly worn down, and teams have scouted us now. They know how to shut down the offensive stuff that was working fairly well when we were able to win a few games without Mac and then without Yurtseven. We can probably hang around with most BE teams for 20-30 minutes, but then we just can't generate enough offense with the core players tiring out. And the good BE teams have a good chance to blow us out (like last night) if they get off to a good start. Maybe we could beat St. John's in a Wednesday BE tournament game, but I can't see us beating Xavier/Creighton/Villanova or any Thursday BE tournament opponent.
I don't mean this as criticism - the players and coaches are doing all they can. We are just outmanned at this point. We don't have enough players who can compete at a BE level with the defections/injuries. And I guess we don't have any coaches who can design/teach a consistently effective defense.
The one main criticism I do have: If we don't do something to bring in a coach with real defensive expertise for next season, I have a hard time seeing much optimism for the immediate future of the program, even if we recruit more successfully. The defense we have played for the past three years just doesn't work. Some of it is on the players, but it seems pretty clear that more of it is on the coaching.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Feb 27, 2020 11:48:32 GMT -5
At this point, I agree with the posters who think we should play for the Big East Tournament. Get Mac/Omer 100% healthy. Get them some conditioning in practice and maybe a game or 2. But the only realistic shot we have now is to be full strength in the Bet and spring a tournament upset. We are quibbling over two choices neither of which has much realistic chance of working. But....I still think you have a better chance of beating the 2,3, and 7 seeds in three games over the next 7 days than we have of beating 9,1,2,3 on four straight days (which would be with a pretty short rotation even if both guys play).
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