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Post by EtomicB on Mar 3, 2021 20:59:58 GMT -5
St. John’s is up 10 on PC @ home with less than a minute to play. PC was up 11 at the half...
A lot of mediocrity in the BE this season...
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 3, 2021 21:16:20 GMT -5
Gillespie just went down clutching his knee. Could have big implications. On one hand we want Nova to beat PC this weekend to ensure we are no worse than 7th, but obviously if they lose him, the tournament becomes that much more wide open.
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Post by vv83 on Mar 3, 2021 21:28:15 GMT -5
Gillespie just went down clutching his knee. Could have big implications. On one hand we want Nova to beat PC this weekend to ensure we are no worse than 7th, but obviously if they lose him, the tournament becomes that much more wide open. The Gillespie injury did not look good. As annoying as it has been to play against him for 4 seasons, I have a lot of respect for Gillespie. He was not a real highly ranked recruit, but he has been a perfect fit for their system, and led them to a boatload of wins. I know it is not good Hoya fandom to feel sympathy for anything Villanova related - but it would be a shame if he can't play in his senior year NCAA Tournament. Nova does not really have another true point guard. Moore and Daniels can handle the ball, but they are primarily shooters/scorers. They have actually had Robinson-Earl basically playing point guard since Gillespie got hurt. He has some athletic limitations, but he is extremely smart and skilled. He's doing a solid job. It will be very interesting to see how he fits in the NBA. I think he'll have some trouble finishing inside against bigger/better athletes. But the skills and smarts are so strong that I bet he finds a way to be a successful NBA player. He's probably a small ball 5 because he can shoot, and he'll kill any bigger/slower defender off the dribble if he is operating in space. He's a good defender - he'll figure out how to defend bigger 5's competently if he ends up being a small ball center. But he may also be able to play some guard - again, he can move his feet well enough on D to be OK vs. some guards, and he can take smaller guards into the post and overpower them. Bryan Antoine is finally healthy and playing for Villanova. he was a 5 star recruit who has missed almost 2 seasons due to a bad shoulder injury/surgery/recovery. They may need to see if Antoine can give them some meaningful minutes if Gillespie is done for the season Brandon Slater is playing better for Nova. He has added some muscle (he was super thin until this season) and has become a pretty effective defender. His shooting is iffy, but he has good length and athleticism. They'll need more from Slater as well if Gillespie is out.
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Post by seaweed on Mar 3, 2021 21:30:48 GMT -5
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 3, 2021 21:43:31 GMT -5
Gillespie just went down clutching his knee. Could have big implications. On one hand we want Nova to beat PC this weekend to ensure we are no worse than 7th, but obviously if they lose him, the tournament becomes that much more wide open. The Gillespie injury did not look good. As annoying as it has been to play against him for 4 seasons, I have a lot of respect for Gillespie. He was not a real highly ranked recruit, but he has been a perfect fit for their system, and led them to a boatload of wins. I know it is not good Hoya fandom to feel sympathy for anything Villanova related - but it would be a shame if he can't play in his senior year NCAA Tournament. Nova does not really have another true point guard. Moore and Daniels can handle the ball, but they are primarily shooters/scorers. They have actually had Robinson-Earl basically playing point guard since Gillespie got hurt. He has some athletic limitations, but he is extremely smart and skilled. He's doing a solid job. It will be very interesting to see how he fits in the NBA. I think he'll have some trouble finishing inside against bigger/better athletes. But the skills and smarts are so strong that I bet he finds a way to be a successful NBA player. He's probably a small ball 5 because he can shoot, and he'll kill any bigger/slower defender off the dribble if he is operating in space. He's a good defender - he'll figure out how to defend bigger 5's competently if he ends up being a small ball center. But he may also be able to play some guard - again, he can move his feet well enough on D to be OK vs. some guards, and he can take smaller guards into the post and overpower them. Bryan Antoine is finally healthy and playing for Villanova. he was a 5 star recruit who has missed almost 2 seasons due to a bad shoulder injury/surgery/recovery. They may need to see if Antoine can give them some meaningful minutes if Gillespie is done for the season Brandon Slater is playing better for Nova. He has added some muscle (he was super thin until this season) and has become a pretty effective defender. His shooting is iffy, but he has good length and athleticism. They'll need more from Slater as well if Gillespie is out. Yeah, that looks like maybe ACL. Hope it's not but that's what it looks like. Hate that guy but hope he is okay.
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 3, 2021 21:45:22 GMT -5
The Gillespie injury did not look good. As annoying as it has been to play against him for 4 seasons, I have a lot of respect for Gillespie. He was not a real highly ranked recruit, but he has been a perfect fit for their system, and led them to a boatload of wins. I know it is not good Hoya fandom to feel sympathy for anything Villanova related - but it would be a shame if he can't play in his senior year NCAA Tournament. Nova does not really have another true point guard. Moore and Daniels can handle the ball, but they are primarily shooters/scorers. They have actually had Robinson-Earl basically playing point guard since Gillespie got hurt. He has some athletic limitations, but he is extremely smart and skilled. He's doing a solid job. It will be very interesting to see how he fits in the NBA. I think he'll have some trouble finishing inside against bigger/better athletes. But the skills and smarts are so strong that I bet he finds a way to be a successful NBA player. He's probably a small ball 5 because he can shoot, and he'll kill any bigger/slower defender off the dribble if he is operating in space. He's a good defender - he'll figure out how to defend bigger 5's competently if he ends up being a small ball center. But he may also be able to play some guard - again, he can move his feet well enough on D to be OK vs. some guards, and he can take smaller guards into the post and overpower them. Bryan Antoine is finally healthy and playing for Villanova. he was a 5 star recruit who has missed almost 2 seasons due to a bad shoulder injury/surgery/recovery. They may need to see if Antoine can give them some meaningful minutes if Gillespie is done for the season Brandon Slater is playing better for Nova. He has added some muscle (he was super thin until this season) and has become a pretty effective defender. His shooting is iffy, but he has good length and athleticism. They'll need more from Slater as well if Gillespie is out. Yeah, that looks like maybe ACL. Hope it's not but that's what it looks like. Hate that guy but hope he is okay. Have to wonder if that’s the case if he’d decide to play another year.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 3, 2021 21:47:59 GMT -5
Yeah, that looks like maybe ACL. Hope it's not but that's what it looks like. Hate that guy but hope he is okay. Have to wonder if that’s the case if he’d decide to play another year. It would make sense to in that scenario because the school would pay for his rehab. And then he's available around January maybe. He isn't a lottery type pick that a team would gamble on sliding in the draft because of the injury (if it is serious) so going back to school, rehabbing and another shot at the tourney plus improving draft stock all favor returning.
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 3, 2021 21:48:37 GMT -5
Also would we rather be on the Nova side of the bracket if in fact they are without Gillespie?
I feel like this is looking more and more like a nightmare scenario where Uconn is going to win this thing.
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 3, 2021 21:50:17 GMT -5
Have to wonder if that’s the case if he’d decide to play another year. It would make sense to in that scenario because the school would pay for his rehab. And then he's available around January maybe. He isn't a lottery type pick that a team would gamble on sliding in the draft because of the injury (if it is serious) so going back to school, rehabbing and another shot at the tourney plus improving draft stock all favor returning. Don’t really think he was / is a NBA target. But possible G League player I guess? I was just getting excited we’d never have to face him again!
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 3, 2021 21:54:26 GMT -5
Also would we rather be on the Nova side of the bracket if in fact they are without Gillespie? I feel like this is looking more and more like a nightmare scenario where Uconn is going to win this thing. I think UConn is a team that can go really far in the NCAA tournament. Obviously Villanova is Villanova but if they lose Gillespie that hurts. But I think I would still rather be in the Non Villanova side of the bracket.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 3, 2021 21:55:55 GMT -5
It would make sense to in that scenario because the school would pay for his rehab. And then he's available around January maybe. He isn't a lottery type pick that a team would gamble on sliding in the draft because of the injury (if it is serious) so going back to school, rehabbing and another shot at the tourney plus improving draft stock all favor returning. Don’t really think he was / is a NBA target. But possible G League player I guess? I was just getting excited we’d never have to face him again! Whatever prospect he has late NBA first or 2 way or G league, if he's seriously hurt, I can't see anyone going after him. Pathway would obviously parallel Ryan Arciadiacano to the NBA.
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 3, 2021 22:37:08 GMT -5
Another league title for Nova, this isn’t one of their better teams but still enough...
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 3, 2021 23:14:57 GMT -5
Another league title for Nova, this isn’t one of their better teams but still enough... Villanova's regular season titles: 1. 1982 (Lost in tournament finals) 2. 1983 (Lost in semifinals) 3. 1997 (Tournament champions)4. 2006 (Lost in semifinals) 5. 2014 (Lost in quarterfinals) 6. 2015 (Tournament champions)7. 2016 (Lost in finals) 8. 2017 (Tournament champions)9. 2019 (Tournament champions)10. 2020 (Tournament cancelled) 11. 2021 Georgetown's regular season titles: 1. 1980 (Tournament champions)2. 1984 (Tournament champions)3. 1987 (Tournament champions)4. 1989 (Tournament champions)5. 1992 (Lost in finals) 6. 1996 (Divisional champions, lost in finals) 7. 1997 (Divisional champions, lost in semifinals) 8. 2007 (Tournament champions)9. 2008 (Lost in finals) 10. 2013 (Lost in semifinals)
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 4, 2021 8:33:04 GMT -5
St. John’s is up 10 on PC @ home with less than a minute to play. PC was up 11 at the half... A lot of mediocrity in the BE this season... Classic Cooley choke job - guy does less with more consistently. Yet another season where he’ll collect a huge paycheck for 0 NCAA Tournament victories.
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Post by bearsandbulls on Mar 4, 2021 9:08:41 GMT -5
So if the Johnnies and X lose and we beat UConn are we number 5.....That would be sweet.....Tough scenario though.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Mar 4, 2021 9:09:43 GMT -5
St. John’s is up 10 on PC @ home with less than a minute to play. PC was up 11 at the half... A lot of mediocrity in the BE this season... Classic Cooley choke job - guy does less with more consistently. Yet another season where he’ll collect a huge paycheck for 0 NCAA Tournament victories. Your animus is well known. But he qualified for five straight NCAAs before not qualifying two years ago (and presumably this year). Sure: One NCAA win in those five appearances...but they were only favored to win their first round game once. I mean in the TWENTY previous years, they had a grand total of one NCAA win (in only four appearances).
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 4, 2021 9:17:33 GMT -5
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 4, 2021 9:44:27 GMT -5
Classic Cooley choke job - guy does less with more consistently. Yet another season where he’ll collect a huge paycheck for 0 NCAA Tournament victories. Your animus is well known. But he qualified for five straight NCAAs before not qualifying two years ago (and presumably this year). Sure: One NCAA win in those five appearances...but they were only favored to win their first round game once. I mean in the TWENTY previous years, they had a grand total of one NCAA win (in only four appearances). Add in a BET championship in 2014 plus a finals appearance in 2018...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 10:02:45 GMT -5
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Mar 4, 2021 10:17:25 GMT -5
We need to win one at the BET and then we can worry about the 2nd round. I recall a barely pre-COVID choke job last year to the Johnnies and Ewing hasn't done well at the BET yet.
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