hoyas315
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Post by hoyas315 on Apr 10, 2021 20:51:17 GMT -5
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Post by ewingitrust on Apr 10, 2021 21:15:20 GMT -5
Great to see!!! I'm so pumped for next season.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 10, 2021 21:41:48 GMT -5
I seem to remember posters who were pretty certain that Tyler taking a prep year meant he would not be a Hoya.
Then he spent the year working.
Young man is a beast. Gonna be a great Hoya.
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dense
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Post by dense on Apr 10, 2021 22:24:49 GMT -5
His mom has been posting pictures of her in Georgetown gear.
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Post by phniousgren on Apr 10, 2021 23:36:46 GMT -5
I seem to remember posters who were pretty certain that Tyler taking a prep year meant he would not be a Hoya. Then he spent the year working. Young man is a beast. Gonna be a great Hoya.
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Post by phniousgren on Apr 11, 2021 0:09:54 GMT -5
That was me. He's not on campus yet however I don't feel that he won't be anymore. Worked. He may have. I saw four of his games this year all blowout victories against inferior competition which made it difficult to gauge the fruits of this supposed work. To me he looked underwhelming and at no time did he look like the best player and or smartest (given his 5th year of h.s ball) on the floor.
Again this was against competition less par and maybe didn't require all out effort but I saw no evidence of this beast you speak of. As a full time backcourt player I think he lacks ball courage meaning he doesn't explore the defense enough with his ball handling. In other words he doesn't penetrate for fear of being picked because he never developed good enough handles which is strange considering you've played either the one or the two for the last five years.
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Apr 11, 2021 7:32:38 GMT -5
I seem to remember posters who were pretty certain that Tyler taking a prep year meant he would not be a Hoya. Then he spent the year working. Young man is a beast. Gonna be a great Hoya. Happily wrong here.
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Apr 11, 2021 7:54:51 GMT -5
That was me. He's not on campus yet however I don't feel that he won't be anymore. Worked. He may have. I saw four of his games this year all blowout victories against inferior competition which made it difficult to gauge the fruits of this supposed work. To me he looked underwhelming and at no time did he look like the best player and or smartest (given his 5th year of h.s ball) on the floor. Again this was against competition less par and maybe didn't require all out effort but I saw no evidence of this beast you speak of. As a full time backcourt player I think he lacks ball courage meaning he doesn't explore the defense enough with his ball handling. In other words he doesn't penetrate for fear of being picked because he never developed good enough handles which is strange considering you've played either the one or the two for the last five years. I saw segments of games. He is playing in a team concept. I didn't expect him to dominate and control the game. He was doing, I believe what the coach desired. I'll bet even those military schools and their scheduling and rosters were affected by the COVID-19 pandemic. I got a feeling he will be what we hoped for when he shows up. I hope things are safe enough to have Kenner League or something that allows the team to be together thus summer. We will need that with so many new guys. Next year will be an adventure.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 11, 2021 9:20:31 GMT -5
That was me. He's not on campus yet however I don't feel that he won't be anymore. Worked. He may have. I saw four of his games this year all blowout victories against inferior competition which made it difficult to gauge the fruits of this supposed work. To me he looked underwhelming and at no time did he look like the best player and or smartest (given his 5th year of h.s ball) on the floor. Again this was against competition less par and maybe didn't require all out effort but I saw no evidence of this beast you speak of. As a full time backcourt player I think he lacks ball courage meaning he doesn't explore the defense enough with his ball handling. In other words he doesn't penetrate for fear of being picked because he never developed good enough handles which is strange considering you've played either the one or the two for the last five years. I saw segments of games. He is playing in a team concept. I didn't expect him to dominate and control the game. He was doing, I believe what the coach desired. I'll bet even those military schools and their scheduling and rosters were affected by the COVID-19 pandemic. I got a feeling he will be what we hoped for when he shows up. I hope things are safe enough to have Kenner League or something that allows the team to be together thus summer. We will need that with so many new guys. Next year will be an adventure. He was supposed to be e prize point guard of that class. I think if Dante hadn’t developed eying our wildest expectations that we would still be considering Beard a top flight point guard recruit. At the very least people are saying he’s still a combo guard which means he can fill in at point guard off the bench or due to injury. You can never have too many combo guard in the college game as we saw when we had a depleted roster yet still had success with TA, Jagan, Mac, Blair, no wings and Pickett/Yurt7/Q
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rockhoya
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 11, 2021 9:23:41 GMT -5
That was me. He's not on campus yet however I don't feel that he won't be anymore. Worked. He may have. I saw four of his games this year all blowout victories against inferior competition which made it difficult to gauge the fruits of this supposed work. To me he looked underwhelming and at no time did he look like the best player and or smartest (given his 5th year of h.s ball) on the floor. Again this was against competition less par and maybe didn't require all out effort but I saw no evidence of this beast you speak of. As a full time backcourt player I think he lacks ball courage meaning he doesn't explore the defense enough with his ball handling. In other words he doesn't penetrate for fear of being picked because he never developed good enough handles which is strange considering you've played either the one or the two for the last five years. Yawn.....he has haters, so he’s clearly doing something right 😁
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 11, 2021 9:28:30 GMT -5
I saw segments of games. He is playing in a team concept. I didn't expect him to dominate and control the game. He was doing, I believe what the coach desired. I'll bet even those military schools and their scheduling and rosters were affected by the COVID-19 pandemic. I got a feeling he will be what we hoped for when he shows up. I hope things are safe enough to have Kenner League or something that allows the team to be together thus summer. We will need that with so many new guys. Next year will be an adventure. He was supposed to be e prize point guard of that class. I think if Dante hadn’t developed eying our wildest expectations that we would still be considering Beard a top flight point guard recruit. At the very least people are saying he’s still a combo guard which means he can fill in at point guard off the bench or due to injury. You can never have too many combo guard in the college game as we saw when we had a depleted roster yet still had success with TA, Jagan, Mac, Blair, no wings and Pickett/Yurt7/Q Exactly. And not all combo guards are the same, part of their value is literally being able to play how the situation calls for. There are combo guards like Zeg who can run a team and score when his team needs it in different gears, and I actually think Dante is of similar ilk. Dante is a combo but he uses his pure point skills to run the team. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t have the ability to fill it up and fill the role of a 2. Some combos are natural scoring guards that are weaker at running the team concept but still able to. Think - Bradley Beal. Most important quality either way is having handle and vision.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 9:36:24 GMT -5
I mean, he plays on a post graduation team so all of his teammates are in their 5th year of hs. I personally think his basketball iq is very high but like most freshman he’ll need time to develop.
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Post by bornhoya on Apr 11, 2021 13:17:19 GMT -5
He was supposed to be e prize point guard of that class. I think if Dante hadn’t developed eying our wildest expectations that we would still be considering Beard a top flight point guard recruit. At the very least people are saying he’s still a combo guard which means he can fill in at point guard off the bench or due to injury. You can never have too many combo guard in the college game as we saw when we had a depleted roster yet still had success with TA, Jagan, Mac, Blair, no wings and Pickett/Yurt7/Q Exactly. And not all combo guards are the same, part of their value is literally being able to play how the situation calls for. There are combo guards like Zeg who can run a team and score when his team needs it in different gears, and I actually think Dante is of similar ilk. Dante is a combo but he uses his pure point skills to run the team. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t have the ability to fill it up and fill the role of a 2. Some combos are natural scoring guards that are weaker at running the team concept but still able to. Think - Bradley Beal. Most important quality either way is having handle and vision. You lost me at Beal being a combo guard
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Apr 12, 2021 6:40:53 GMT -5
All these made up names make me sick. Things were much simpler at one time pg vs combo guard, shooting guard, 3-D. Beard is a skilled player. He can play point guard, does anyone think he's a stretch 4....get real!! He didn't lose all his skills by attending Massanutten!
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 12, 2021 10:11:38 GMT -5
Exactly. And not all combo guards are the same, part of their value is literally being able to play how the situation calls for. There are combo guards like Zeg who can run a team and score when his team needs it in different gears, and I actually think Dante is of similar ilk. Dante is a combo but he uses his pure point skills to run the team. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t have the ability to fill it up and fill the role of a 2. Some combos are natural scoring guards that are weaker at running the team concept but still able to. Think - Bradley Beal. Most important quality either way is having handle and vision. You lost me at Beal being a combo guard So by this you mean you don’t consider him a combo guard, correct?
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rockhoya
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 12, 2021 10:12:57 GMT -5
All these made up names make me sick. Things were much simpler at one time pg vs combo guard, shooting guard, 3-D. Beard is a skilled player. He can play point guard, does anyone think he's a stretch 4....get real!! He didn't lose all his skills by attending Massanutten! It’s not a made up name it’s two well known, regular words used together. Combo, meaning combination, and guard. There are two guard positions, the point guard and shooting guard. Combo guard just means a combination of the two, point and shooting. It can be of any balance.
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Post by bornhoya on Apr 12, 2021 12:11:35 GMT -5
You lost me at Beal being a combo guard So by this you mean you don’t consider him a combo guard, correct? When does Beal ever run point
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 12, 2021 13:50:56 GMT -5
So by this you mean you don’t consider him a combo guard, correct? When does Beal ever run point The season John Wall first got injured and off/on ever since. He excelled in the PG role, both in keeping the bringing the ball up, keeping the ball and offense moving, and ran the pick and roll with great efficiency. I guess I was just paying attention... Just because he also plays SG doesn’t mean he can’t run the point full time. Don’t get it twisted, he’d still be a great NBA player if he never had to play a minute at SG. Which brings me back around to my point that a combo is about the tools and abilities a player has, and their ability to use them interchangeably, moreso than it is the actual position they play on any given day/sequence.
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Post by hoyazeke on Apr 12, 2021 14:02:03 GMT -5
So by this you mean you don’t consider him a combo guard, correct? When does Beal ever run point He pretty much ran the point the last 2yrs. When Ish wasn't in the game Brad ran the point last year and the year before he was the point with John being hurt the majority of the year. This is the 1st year that he really hasn't had to run the point with Russ and Ish holding it down....
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Post by bornhoya on Apr 12, 2021 22:26:42 GMT -5
When does Beal ever run point He pretty much ran the point the last 2yrs. When Ish wasn't in the game Brad ran the point last year and the year before he was the point with John being hurt the majority of the year. This is the 1st year that he really hasn't had to run the point with Russ and Ish holding it down.... Shabbezz was the point guard when Ish and the year before it was Tomas
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